Trump going after Hilary over Bill's affair.If you were Hillary,what would you say in response?

[SummerSnow]

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[Buzz Clik]

1. Start reading from his book where Trump brags about his own exploits

[libdem4life]

34. But that's what's nigh maddening about Trump...he has from Day 1

been honest about his good and bad sides. Thus, he has nothing to hide. That's what the Republicans love about him. He's a Bad Boy. Just own it and move on.

Hillary, OTOH, is still deeply in denial about current issues and the many aspects of her 25 years in the public spotlight. She's Shady, at best. So many scandals to pick from. Trump is not impressed with the Clinton Machine.

I can't think what she could throw at him that would stick and that he wouldn't have a devastating retort. He's the master at that. She's used to being a boxing partner with her detractors...bobbing and jumping around. He is used to the knock out punch...no questions or answers needed.

[Hekate]

70. Trump has not been "honest" about anything. He lies as he breathes.

As for Hillary being "shady" because of "scandals" invented by the RW without a shred of evidence, do you know the old tactic about asking someone to deny a lie about them?

Political opponent: "So, Congressman Brown, when did you stop beating your wife?"

Brown, appalled: "I've never beaten my wife!!" (And he has not.)

Newspaper headline: "Brown denies being wife beater. Investigation continues."

Internet poll: "Do you think a wife beater should be re-elected?"

Public reactions (many venues): "Brown is scum. Why would his wife even stay with him? Is she afraid to leave?"

News reporter: "Congressman Brown, how are you and Mrs. Brown dealing with the news that you are an abusive spouse?"

And the cycle continues. The more he denies the lie, the wider it spreads.

[libdem4life]

73. So, I'm not a Trump supporter in the least, but I'm open to how he has

not been honest. To me and what I've seen and read, he's kind of overdone it to the extent that it's almost folly...which is what the Republicans love about him.

I'm always open to new ideas...what is he lying about or hiding?

Oh, and the "beating your wife" really isn't appropriate here, sorry.

[phylny]

75. i just heard her answer perfectly on NBC Nightly News.

She said Donald can run his campaign, and she'll run her campaign and talk about what really matters.

Frankly, I'm a Bernie supporter and while I'm going to vote blue no matter who, Trump's constant, rude, riduculous tactics make me more inclined to not only vote for Hillary, but contribute to her campaign.

Edited because his campaign is NOT the same as her campaign!

[Buzz Clik]

87. +1

[AgadorSparticus]

89. Amen to that! I have always voted blue and will continue to do so.

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. "Bill Clinton's Dick is not an issue in this election and neither is yours. Now, lets talk about

your plan to default on the National debt."

[oldandhappy]

15. Unfortunately for all of us this will come up again and again, gag.

[Agnosticsherbet]

20. I think we should stand erect against the very idea of dick jokes.

[oldandhappy]

36. best laugh of the morning, thanks

[Hortensis]

66. Your advice to Hillary has to be good as any,

and far better than most. I think it covers my own, which is of course to bring the conversation inexorably back to whatever comment the dick just made that he needs forgotten.

[IamMab]

85. That sounds too hard.

[MinnieBlum]

78. We already went through all that BS

Obviously Trump is trying to prevent Dems from discussing his many affairs, took 2nd wife along as his gf on a family vacation with his first wife, etc. There are no doubt hundreds of hookers he's trying to keep quiet now. He'll need a CPAC just to pay them off.

It's up to the MEDIA to call him on this BS. It's the Presidency, not a reality show. I have never in my life been so disappointed with MSNBC. They just play along to get ratings... while the country heads to hell in a hand basket.

[woodsprite]

31. Yes! (Wish DU had a "like" button like FaceBook) n/t

[SummerSnow]

47. That's exactly what I would say!!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. Nothing, other than a brief mentioning of glass houses and stones. And then cough the words....

"Marla Maples." And walk away. Nothing further needed, next topic.

[blm]

4. Talk about economic and environmental health issues and ignore all bombast from

the insane wing of the Republican Party.

[firebrand80]

5. Nothing, stay on message

Everyone already knows about Bill, you're not winning any votes by engaging on that issue.

[struggle4progress]

83. +

[cali]

6. Nothing. Let her surrogates maul him. There's tons of material

[BillZBubb]

7. The smart play is to not take the bait.

It's not an argument that will help win votes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Nothing.

Maybe an eye-roll.

[gordianot]

9. Ok so what? Your hair has a unique texture.

Actually it does not matter what you say 2016 candidate core constituencies are solid no matter what the candidate says or does.

[egalitegirl]

10. She has no message and this is why we need Bernie

Hillary has no message. Think over her positions.

Economy: She represents the interests of Goldman Sachs.

Foreign Policy: She is so clueless that she believes that the Benghazi episode was created by a Youtube video. Besides, her husband's administration supported the Taliban.

Syria: She caused the mess in Syria. We have no right to be there and meddle in Syria. Instead of staying away from Syria, she ended up arming the 'rebels' which is another term for ISIS.

Worse, a look at her emails shows that she has very little understanding of foreign policy and lets others run the department. These emails also show that she is uncomfortable with the use of technology. She wants her assistant to print out emails (LOL) and the tweets coming from the twitter id under her name are clearly sent out by others. Many tweets were posted even as she was debating.

There is also a valid argument that Bill Clinton harassed women and therefore was a misogynistic president who perpetuated patriarchy.

This is why we need to nominate Bernie.

[leftofcool]

13. Thank you for all those right wing talking points

Please take them to GDPee

[egalitegirl]

24. Bernie is not the Bush partner

Right wing will hate my points too because they are part of the Syria mess along with Hillary. Opposing neocons is not a right wing talking point. It is a left wing cause.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

17. Thank you person from 2015. nt

[840high]

27. Good post.

[yourpaljoey]

30. And that ain't the 1/100th of it. Baggage train a comin' -- get the forklifts.

[trueblue2007]

40. STOP YAPPING ABOUT BERNIE. The topic about this is TRUMPS SEXUAL EXPLOITS -- even raping women

[pnwmom]

43. That's not going to happen. n/t

[Squinch]

64. BS lost. Move on.

[Hekate]

74. Goodness, aren't you busy carrying RW water? You can't be that naive, really.

So what's your real agenda?


JURY: I am not saying this poster is actually a Right Winger. I am asking why she feels the need to continually bring RW talking points to DU.

[egalitegirl]

86. You are unfair to me

I merely point out that the Bushes and Clintons are partners. How is that RW point? And opposing Goldman Sachs is now RW?

[hollowdweller]

11. I'd say

Yeah but despite the rough patches we worked it out and we're still together.

When you have something together you have to weigh the totality of that over anything that has happened in the short run.

Just like politics if you disagree with somebody on one thing you don't cut them off and consider them an enemy or try to get them ousted. You know there will be good times and situations where you will work together again.

It's a lesson I'll try to incorporate as president, never to shut anybody out always to try to mend fences.

[Bradical79]

12. Ignore it, have some dismissive replies ready for the debates or interviews where it's brought up

Let other allies and superpacs fling shit back at Trump drawing attention to what a piece of human garbage he is.

I think it's done entirely to bring Hillary herself down to a level that he operates best at. I don't think the old affairs have any affect on her with the voters one way or the other. Could even be a prime opportunity to highlight Trump's lack of real policy to run on and look more presidential.

[oldandhappy]

14. three marriages?

Photos of her in black churches? Probably best to stay on message, but in a simple way. Trump does not understand how gov works. His followers may not either.

[malaise]

16. Go Cheney yourself

That would be my response

[Vinca]

18. Nothing.

She shouldn't dignify his remarks with a response.

[Proud Public Servant]

19. "When I want marital advice...

from a guy whose on his third wife, I'll ask for it, m'kay?"

[avebury]

21. She should remain Presidential and not lower herself to his level.

However, the right person (not too closely linked to the Clinton campaign) could have a field day. One might make the argument that Trump is an enabler (after all, wife number 2 had an affair with one of their bodyguards). Then there is Trump's comment on his daughter and how beautiful she is and he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. No.1 that is just plain icky and NO. 2, that couldn't go over well with wife #3. With 3 wives, Trump is hardly the model of family values.

Just research his background and everything he has been involved in and there is plenty of dirt that a Superpac would work with.

[karynnj]

22. Absolutely nothing -this is something that surrogates can address if HRC feels that needs to be done

If she feels it is needed, others can point out that Mr Trump was not really "better" than Bill Clinton. Others can point out that almost all of the meme that Hillary Clinton led the attack is coming from flaky sources and it is very likely not true. (Not to create trouble, but I suspect many remember that in 1992, it was Bettie Currie who was tasked to keep down "Bimbo eruptions" and Carvelle and Begala were out there as well -- not Hillary Clinton.

Personally, I think it might be better to have no one connected to the campaign respond at all. The reason is that ANY reaction gives this at least another media cycle ... and likely more as Trump will respond.

Years ago, on DU when obnoxious untrue threads showed up on a politician I liked, wiser people than me argued to "let it sink" -- that fighting it just caused it to be discussed further. Though obviously, what HRC's campaign is dealing with is not arguments on DU, I think the same basic idea might be in play.

I think Trump's reason of bringing it up is because he senses that there are liberals who really do have problems with BILL Clinton's actions and that it makes them uncomfortable. However, the big reason is that the "nasty enabler" clearly tries to negatively characterize Hillary as not likable. Therefore, if anything, HRC should take the high road and just say something to the effect that it is sad that Trump uses tabloids and gossip magazines as his primary news sources and that there are important issues that should be given more time than things like this.

[yellowcanine]

23. She should say nothing. Other Democrats should point out the hypocrisy of a two time wife ditcher

going after Hillary for the behavior of her husband.

[Miles Archer]

41. Take a look at the "Trump VP Poll Results" thread I just posted in GD...

...the #1 pick among Hannity viewers...61,000 of them...was Newt, a guy who left his wife to die in the cancer ward.

So yeah...what you said.

[TheKentuckian]

25. Inquire into how his wife and daughter deal with his Oedipus complex?

[Hekate]

26. Talk about real stuff AND send in the surrogates to nip at his flanks nonstop. TinyHands Trump...

...has a real thin skin.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

28. Trump hates women, minorities, poor people, etc.

He respects only rich people and rich women who know their place.

If I was on the Hillary team I would remind people of the horrible shit that has come out of his disgusting mouth about women.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. I hope I would laugh, and say something like ...

"Well ... when you think {insert insane idea here, e.g., allowing the US to default on its debt because you think you will be allowed to negotiate a better rate} ... well ... I guess you have to say something that the media will pick up on."

[Actor]

77. I would say something like "don, you are a moron...you really are, so I wish you would just

shut the fuck up and go away"

[1StrongBlackMan]

79. Or, look at him really strangely ... laugh, and say, ...

"Uh huh. That's nice, Mr. trump." Then, turn to the camera ... roll my eyes and say ..."when can we talk about policy?"

I want her to just flat out dismiss his vain ass ... it'll drive him over the cliff that we all know he has long been over.

[Actor]

80. "Somebody tell the asshole his fly is down, please"

[1StrongBlackMan]

81. Please ... Universe .. No ...

Don't. That artist depicted him as "minimal" ... draw his attention to his fly and that idiot will be pulling his junk out for the camera!

[Mz Pip]

32. Nothing

No need to dignify the remark with a response.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

33. Donald Trump Making Marriage Fidelity An Issue............

............is kind of like Donald Trump scolding a CEO for bankrupting a business.

[Trust Buster]

35. I would ignore him and concentrate on issues that people really care about.

[Fresh_Start]

37. Bill cheated on his wife and you cheated on your wives

if being a vicim of cheating disqualifies someone from the Presidency...
The being the cheater hissle should disqualify someone from being even remotely considered for the Presidency.
Shall we talk about your affairs?

[LuvLoogie]

38. However she decides to respond will be the appropriate response.

[CTyankee]

39. I wouldn't say anything. This is a job for her surrogates, not her.

They will be thoroughly briefed on what to say. She should continue to talk about issues that people really care about. Hammer them. The surrogates should also stress that every time Trump talks trash, Hillary will talk about the issues that affect you and me.

[Maedhros]

42. Bill's indiscretions reflect poorly on Bill. They were not Hillary's responsibility. [n/t]

[pnwmom]

44. "When I took my wedding vows I didn't say: but only if you never let me down. I meant those vows.

So I worked on my marriage. And I'm going to work even harder for this great country when I am President."

[Hekate]

45. Implicit in everything she does. While all the guys who harassed and tried to impeach Bill...

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...were sleeping with other men's wives or diddling Senate pages and are now on their 3rd or 4th marriages -- the Clintons are still together.

Only thing is, Hillary should never respond to Trump's mud. As they say, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. Her surrogates need to be nipping at the pig's thin skin nonstop -- Tiny-hands Trump can dish it out but can't take it, and strong women scare him.

[pnwmom]

46. I'm imagining her saying something like this not to Trump himself,

but to some interviewer asking her the question.

But in a debate, to Trump, no. Just ignore the question and change the subject.

[KamaAina]

48. "That's none of your damn business."

[DonRedwood]

49. invite ivanka and marla to lunch

[lunatica]

50. Nothing. Or Tell him she has no intention of engaging in last Century's news.

Or something like "I'd rather talk about something that's happening in this Century, and affects today's voters."

Or, "How does that affect today's voters?"

That's if she even bothers to respond.

It's a gutter question designed to turn everything into gutter muck.

[Zynx]

51. "Who the fuck cares?"

[BeyondGeography]

52. Ignore the troll/stick to the issues

[elleng]

53. MYOB

[lamp_shade]

54. Absolutely nothing.

[rug]

55. I'd say no one who cheats on a spouse shou;d be President.

[vadermike]

56. she just did

and did not respond to it directly saying she only wants to talk issue not ugley attacks.. the msnbc panel seems to think that this wont work for that she has to be more aggressive towards trump cause it worked so well for Trumpy in his GOPprimary.. i disagree.. the GOP primary and the GE are two different electorates... at least i hope so.. otherwise we are fucked..

[TygrBright]

57. This should be in GD-P. It mention's Hillary's name.

Skinner sez: "you would need to either post in GDP, or else write your post in a manner that does not reference either of the two Democratic primary candidates."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910249

helpfully,
Bright

[ebayfool]

58. To Bill? You're fired! n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

59. "Trumps who live in glass towers shouldn't throw stones."

[clarice]

60. I can only see this issue becoming more engorged as time goes by.nt

[DVRacer]

69. It seems to come up and makes it hard sometimes with what to do with it.

[Mike Nelson]

61. Every time she is asked about this...

...Hillary should reply by addressing something that matters to voters... and contrast her plan with Trump's plan.

[AngryAmish]

62. She should just call him sexist and racist.

[edhopper]

63. Say

"I guess Mr. Trump doesn't understand the difference between running for President and being on a Reality Show.
I do, so I will talk about policy."

[JanMichael]

65. probably already said but - at least my one marriage prevailed you serial marriage destoyer. nt

[Chan790]

67. Point out that Bill never impregnated another woman while married to her.

Donald Trump impregnated Marla Maples with their daughter Tiffany while he was still married to Ivana.

Bill may be a scoundrel and a philanderer...but so is Donald and Donald has done far worse than Bill ever did.

[Submariner]

68. Better than having a First Lady who is a gold-digging trampy stripper showing off her T&A in a mag

with a cowardly husband who bragged about his venereal diseases being his own personal Vietnam.

[Skittles]

88. no

that would be a very bad move, for Hillary to trash Melania

[Boomerproud]

71. It wasn't a threesome, Donald.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

72. Fuck and You. But that's why i am not a politician. she will ignore this shit.

[libodem]

76. Effing vast right wing conspiracy

Is what. Dammit.

[Skittles]

82. BITE ME YOU MISOGYNIST PIECE OF SHIT

[IamMab]

84. No response is best of all, but if pressed to provide some kind of retort or zinger mine would be...

"Which of Donald's three wives should I ask about his fidelity?" 'Nuff said.

[AgadorSparticus]

90. Hey Trump! Go f@ck yourself! What a mysogynistic jackass.

This woman has had to deal with the pain of infidelity and now he is raking her through it again??? So much for wooing the women's votes.

[tammywammy]

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