This is what I fear:

[SHRED]

Trump softens his tone, with the help of the corporate media, on Mexicans, Muslims, and women.

He runs more populist than Clinton on trade (jobs), big money in politics, and military foreign intervention. He already is starting to do this and with the the attention span of the American public being short as it is falls for it.

The media molded B grade actor Reagan into a President so I don't underestimate the power of the billionaire class messengers.

Are my fears justified?

[Buzz Clik]

1. This will be a non-stop campaign to convince us that he isn't nuts.

He risks losing his crazed fans, but we'll see how it goes.

[lewebley3]

37. I fear the damage Sanders is doing to Dem party chances

[Human101948]

47. Hillary is viewed negatively by the majority of voters...

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

That didn't start with Bernie.

[kag]

49. I beg your pardon?

The "damage" Sanders is doing? Bernie Sanders is just trying to win a nomination, and he's doing it by convincing real Democrats that he has their best interests at heart. He's not selling us out to Wall Street. He's not promising anything pie-in-the-sky, only bold proposals that he promises to work hard for. He's not doing anything to HURT anyone, least of all the chances of the Democratic party under Hillary "I never saw a corporate billionaire I didn't like" Clinton.

He's never threatened to run as an independent. He doesn't use misogyny or bigotry or racism to win over the stupid class. AND, unlike Hillary Clinton whose chances are iffy at best, if he were to win the nomination, he would DESTROY Donald Trump.

What's to fear about Bernie Sanders?

[FighttheFuture]

56. I am glad Sanders is showing the Dems a real path to victory. Are the Democrats smart

enough, and not yet corrupted enough, to really embrace it and move the party back towards its Jeffersonian roots?

Time will tell, but it is the corporatist DLC style democrats that are to blame if this election is lost to an assclown like Trump, or any Republican, for that matter. Their pandering and support of Oligarchs, Big banks and corrupt financial institutions and other corporate interests, their Hawkish positions with drones and wars, and Empire buuilding efforts are finally coming home to roost.

This BS is not Bernie Sanders fault. If anything, he will help them pull in more House and Senate seats if Hillary is the nominee and shows she cannot carry the water and looses. Without him in the mix, I believe this election will be toast for the Democrats at all levels with a Trump running on a populist message and the usual Republican chicanery on our election machinery (unaddressed fro years by the Democrats, BTW).

[yellerpup]

2. You bet they are.

Terror, terror, terror if you don't vote my way.

[randr]

3. I have had the same sense from the begining

The race will come down to insiders vs. outsiders.
Anyone who can not see this coming has not been paying attention.

[onecaliberal]

4. Absolutely! We're starting to see it.

[oldandhappy]

5. Probably

One friend, 92 years old, was adamantly against Trump and is now for him! Says he is her last best hope. I told her she could have him!

[CobaltBlue]

6. SHRED—They should be the fears of Hillary Clinton, her campaign, and her primaries voters.

[SHRED]

7. All of us Democrats should I believe

I'm an adamant Bernie backer and like Bernie I will work to make sure tRump does not have the keys to the White House.

[CobaltBlue]

12. SHRED—No work necessary. Republican insiders don’t want Trump elected. We may get a big D landslide.

[SHRED]

17. I hope you are correct

[Saviolo]

35. No such thing as "No work necessary"

Still vitally important to GOTV.

Remember, Trump's all about the deal. He'll totally make a deal with the GOP insiders to give them some of what they want in an administration so that he can still be the leader. He's going to pivot so fast it'll be amazing he doesn't break his own neck. Those crazy Trump supporters who right now love him because he speaks his mind will still love him by inertia, and he'll attract more moderate GOP votes from rapidly softening positions.

Important for Hillary (or Bernie by some outside chance) and all Democratic supporters, progressives, and liberals to help, support, campaign and vote. Don't imagine that the GE is a done deal, yet. November is a -long- way away, politically speaking. There's so much at stake to let Trump squeak in, nominate right wingers to the judiciary, the SCOTUS, dismantle progressive policies, etc...

[MisterP]

41. if they ever thought they could lose, that is

[bluegopher]

8. For sure

I don't think anyone has any idea what's going to happen this time around. There are some cons that absolutely will not vote for trump, but I think most republican women will end up voting for him and even some of the Hispanic vote will end up moving in his direction. Throw in the bernorbusters and it's entirely possible. This of course depends on what happens with both candidates going forward.

[IdaBriggs]

9. Yes. He also points out how he "owns" Hillary with his donations/got

her to come to his wedding, mentions that no one died from his mistakes, and points out that Democrats were wusses who wouldn't even impeach Bush after he lied the country into a $2 TRILLION dollar war. He gets the rust belt because Clinton trade policy is killing us and she wants Bill back in charge of it. Throw in a reality television "will he/won't he", have him point out how he got tricked into the abortion thing (he's pro-choice, and the set up was "if abortion was illegal, should women who get one be punished?" and he walked into it like the newbie he was with headlined "he wants to punish women for abortion!&quot , and he starts trotting out his surrogates who are minorities and women -- BOOM! President Trump.

I'm not even a professional politician person, and I can lay that success strategy out in thirty seconds.

[yourpaljoey]

28. He reached out to ALL comers the second he had the Repuglican side sewn up

This guy ain't stupid.
People who have not seen him speak
recently should do so. He has winner's appeal,
and people love a winner.

[Turin_C3PO]

58. Ultimately

demographics will doom him.

[CanonRay]

10. Add to that a significant portion of the

"I'll never vote for him/her" crowd staying home or voting third party, and we've got a real problem on our hands.

[First Speaker]

11. I don't think so...

...Trump can't keep up a pretense like that indefinitely. He can't help being what he is. The Real Trump will emerge from under his rock, sooner rather than later...

[Boomer]

22. Please tell me...

When has the real Trump ever bothered hiding?

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that Trump can't change his demeanor. He can't tone down for more than a few moments because his personality disorder kicks in too hard. His narcissism comes first, last and always.

[kag]

52. ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

Yes. First last and always!

[Katashi_itto]

13. Pretty much dead on. CNN spent a good portion talking about third party and how Clinton

was the ultimate insider. A Status Quo Technocrat, the segment this morning.

[hamsterjill]

14. With all due respect, George W. Bush sat in the Oval Office for eight long and frightful years.

Any and all fears are justified.

I don't trust Republicans. I take nothing for granted.

[Egnever]

15. Do you think all of his nonsense just disappears?

Do you think he will be able to stand on stage being challenged and keep it together?

Do you think the Republican party that is revolting under his feet are just going to go away?

Nothing wrong with being vigilant but when you start to think people will magically forget the nonsense that has gone on the last six months. You start to cross over into chicken little territory.

[SHRED]

16. Reagan did awful things...

...but the media shaped him into a candidate.

[Egnever]

20. Ray gun hadn't come close to what Trump has done

The comparisons with Ray gun are not apt.

[progressoid]

64. But it's not the 80's anymore.

Being an open hypocrite and liar is perfectly acceptable in the GOP now.

You can have sex with a prostitute while wearing a diaper and still get re-elected.

[Egnever]

66. Not all of the GOP feels that way

Not even a majority, More of them so far did not vote for him even given the other alternatives. Some are in open rebellion against him and some have been for quite some time.

Raygun on the other hand was bringing morning to America against an unpopular, at the time, president. With the promise of freeing the hostages.

There is really no comparison there that I can see.

[Javaman]

18. he already is...

I can bet you, once he gets the needed delegates he will come out with something like...

"you know, I had my experts do the math on the wall and it's just not do able. >shrugs<" then goes on to add more fluff and filler to his confused ultra right wing thug crowd about how huge he will be and how everyone will be rich or something like that.

it's not a matter of if.

I have long believed that trump has been playing "rope-a-dope" with the American public aka the right wing.

He has long been feeding them the red meat they desire.

once the delegates are in, you will see him change his tune on many things.

he's already stated that minimum wage should be higher and that the rich should pay more taxes.

[Boomer]

24. Trump is not playing the long game

What you see is what you get: a man so deeply narcissistic that other people are just a vague backdrop to himself. He's not being coy or setting anything up. He's simply expressing whatever he needs to say at any given moment to feel superior to other people. There is no consistency or coherence to his thoughts, just narcissistic need.

[Javaman]

60. I agree, he's not playing a game all...

what he is playing at is: playing his right wing moron supports for the fools they are.

he's in it to win and he will do everything in his power to make that happen.

I think there is certain a method to his madness.

he's now on a mission to siphon off votes from the fence riders that support hillary and Bernie.

he's most definitely going after independent voters. no doubt about it.

[lunatica]

19. Soon the media will make him Saint Donald

the Greatest President since Saint Ronny.

[bbgrunt]

21. The Democratic party has been co-opted and redefined by

the Third Way to become the home of war hawks and corporatists while the donald will shape the republican base to become the faux progressives and nazis. Everything is being inverted and torn apart.

I think your fears are also mine.

[lastone]

23. And yet

It looks like the democrats will nominate the weakest candidate in hrc vs Sanders, it's what the establishment / corp media have wanted from the beginning. If you don't think hrc is in serious trouble go back and read what republicans thought of donnie boys chance when he first jumped into the race. Stupid is as stupid does.

[tom_kelly]

25. He will say and what ever

He has to in order to get elected. The fear he must have of being labeled a loser must be excruciating.

[libdem4life]

29. Funny, that describes both apparent candidates.

Could be why their favorability ratings are tanked. For both, it's all about Me Me Me. I want to be President. Trump doesn't have a political record or a Foundation and he's pretty much vetted himself. That's where the difference lies between the two, as I see it.

He'll be happy to do the what the Democrats should have done...hold her feet to the fire or nominate someone who can beat him. Probably show the photos of their FIVE mansion compounds. That in itself is quite a visual.

[RoccoR5955]

26. You betcha! There is only ONE soluton to this.

It's called BERNIE!

[Funtatlaguy]

27. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

Just walk thru a Walmart.

[FighttheFuture]

57. Easy to be stupid when you are kept ignorant with MSM shit and your ability to live is

being constantly degraded. More and more effort is just spent trying to survive for the moment. The R's and Oligarchs deftly exploit this situation to their benefit and the regular "democrats" do almost nothing to counter it.

Thank God Bernire Sanders had entered the race to tell the truth and present the questions to people to start waking them out of their stupor and ask themselves, "WTF!! Why can we not have Good health care, good college, good wages, an end to endless wars and so on!?!?!? Why NOT!!!"

[libdem4life]

30. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[WinkyDink]

31. Reagan was governor of California, lest one forgets.

[Fumesucker]

74. After Reagan CA elected Governor Moonbeam..

Reagan screwed CA up so badly as Governor that it took Jerry Brown to put it back on the rails.

[Atman]

32. That's not "fear."

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That's prescience.

You've paid attention.

It is my firm belief (which is worth exactly nothing) that Hillary supporters don't understand WHY people are voting the way they're voting. They mock everybody, they're already doing their endzone dance...and they'd dance us into hell.

We finally have a younger, energized, excited youth voting population...and our side wants to put up an establishment candidate against the revolution candidate, nut job that Trump is. I just don't get it, seeing as we have our own revolution candidate which kills theirs in the polls, why are we doing this? We're just going to throw them away, they'll decide (probably rightly so) that the whole system is rigged, and they won't come back to vote again. Wow...those next mid-terms ought to be FUN with just old Tea-baggers turning out to vote.

I admit, I'm just baffled how we can be doing this to ourselves.

[Dems to Win]

39. +1 I'm astonished that the Dem Establishment is throwing away the youth vote and the party's future.

nt

[LiberalLovinLug]

43. Yup, a chance in a lifetime

It was the perfect storm.

After years of the only platform of the GOP being "NO". Even including a shutdown of government. Congress has record low ratings.

Add to that they only have clowns as candidates that must cater to the tea bagger lot that they themselves have created.

Add to that the zietgiest of the moment is that people are sick of what they perceive as being shafted by the establishment and are looking for an independent thinking candidate to clean things up.

Citizens were primed to be open to new ideas, new solutions, even ...gasp....democratic soclialism...if it was explained to them properly.

Many on the left were resigned to Hillary's inevitability. But when Bernie emerged as a choice, and lets give credit to Bernie for having the balls to run against her, people started having hope again and shifting their votes. Too late as it turned out, Hillary had too much of a lead through name recognition, media exposure, and the full backing of the DNC machinations.

Corporate rule could have been stopped in its tracks. Now it is full steam ahead. Democrats missed their chance. And its sad to see so many Hillary pushers oblivious to what they let slip away.

[farleftlib]

71. Couldn't agree more

that Hillary supporters don't understand WHY people are voting the way they're voting. They mock everybody, they're already doing their endzone dance...and they'd dance us into hell.

I don't feel like I'm watching a slow-motion train wreck, I feel like I'm trapped in a slow-motion train wreck. Hillary is well on her way to another loss and is too narcissistic to acknowledge this and step aside because it's all about her. She's wanted this since 2000 and she's not going away unless the party steps in and puts Biden into play which infuriates me. We have another Dem candidate that could beat Trump but he's an insider's worst nightmare. We are well and truly effed.

[Octafish]

33. Your fears are justified. Drumpf knows how to label his competition.

For instance, "Low Energy" knocked the billionaire's boy out of the running.

Any guesses as to what is to come?

[Cryptoad]

34. Trump is geared up for General

but we can't bc we have to baby Bern's Ego, putting us farther behind in the race!

[Ed Suspicious]

40. Yeah. Bernie is fucking this all up.

You guys keep telling us he's done. She's already won. Right?

Ignore Bernie and get to winning the General, then. Unless you know that Bernie still has a good enough chance that you can't afford to ignore him. In that case he needs to keep fighting for the win.

You people can't have it both ways.

[libodem]

36. All the Pukes need is a programmable mouthpiece

To announce the bullet points.

I didn't dream Reagan would be president. It happened.

We can't let this happen again.

[highprincipleswork]

38. In short, YES!!!!! This is what many have been saying, and the only antidote is Bernie Sanders.

Why do alleged Progressives and other assorted Democrats have such a problem with backing the one person who consistently goes for what we want?

He doesn't promise it all. He only says what is really true. If enough people stand up for it, we can and will have it. If not right away, in the long run.

Equally, if we don't stand up for it, we will never have it.

[FlaGranny]

51. I hope you

know that you are "fringe". That's what I was told yesterday. I am fringe for wanting Bernie as our candidate. Don't feel too bad though, it seems that the majority of registered voters in the entire country also are "fringe" according to polling data so we're in good company.

If Hillary is our nominee, I'll probably vote for her, but won't like it - a hold my nose kind of vote. Bernie has been largely ignored by news media for most of the primaries while Trump has been shoved down our throats 24/7, with Hillary thrown in here and there, and STILL Bernie is pulling, as of now, 52% nationally (last time I checked).

[highprincipleswork]

54. Yeah, I know, that "fringe" label the result of Reaganesque brainwashing of Democratic Party. Sad.

[90-percent]

42. I'm with Bernie win or loose

Because his movement to restore Democracy and dismantle Oligarchy and combat the corruption of big money must carry on. I'm in it for the long haul and have been since the 2000 Bush v. Gore corrupt to it's very core Supreme Court Decision.

I deeply fear living life as middle ages peasant in an Orwellian Total Information Awareness World hell bent on consuming oil like a terminal cancer patient smoking in their hospital bed through their trach hole.

Hillary flips flops on so many things she's squishy. I don't want her elected to find she thinks the TPP is just peachy after all. And we will have to overthrow some new evil middle Eastern dictator who "gasses his own people", or, if it's the Saudi's "beheads their own people" for being gay or disagreeing with the government in public.

We have got to reinvent Democracy and how this entire planet is run. As a whole, the people in charge, in the words of my hero Frank Zappa, are nothing more than TREACHEROUS CRETINS.

-90% Jimmy

[Blue_In_AK]

44. Yes.

[lark]

45. yep.

Trump is doing this for personal gain, so cares nothing about what's said, as long as he wins. He'll flip and flip multiple times before this is done and so many will completely ignore this, because the Donald is YUGE!

[Kablooie]

46. Yep. And he can bash her political record but she can only wage personal attacks on him.

He has no political history to attack.
This allows him to promise absolutely anything he wants and there is no way to discredit him based on his past record.

He is going to be difficult to defeat because the majority of the electorate knows nothing but 30 second sound bites and rumors.
They will base their votes solely on this flawed, biased information.

[tabasco]

50. Yes, and the republicans will rally behind their "strong leader" like good little fascists

always do. We are in trouble with a weak candidate in H. Clinton.

[LiberalLovinLug]

53. Its already started

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-05/donald-trump-celebrates-cinco-de-mayo-by-eating-a-taco-bowl-declaring-love-for-hispanics


Donald Trump Celebrates Cinco de Mayo With Taco Bowl, Says, 'I Love Hispanics!'

[FighttheFuture]

55. Yup. Remember 1980 and 2000, where R's ran simpletons, and Dems thought they would win...

they didn't!!!

[spanone]

59. can we beat trump AND the media? i dunno.

[CanSocDem]

61. Or...

...corporate America gets its candidate with the Clintons and fuels the Donalds excesses, padding where necessary, to end up with another faux showcase illustrating the deep democratic ideals of the USA. And whatever the outcome, the braying masses are silenced and life goes on.....

Of course this scenario would break the rotation of two terms, then switch, two terms then switch. The last 'rotation break' was when Jimmy Carter was Prez, but the MIC wanted to get on with its plans in the ME, Carter "lost" his re-election and RR (the movie actor) with (at the last moment) Poppy Bush as his VP.

.

[d_legendary1]

62. Not at all!

Remember the town crier who would always say "Hear Ye, Hear Ye" and then gave people the news? That's the King's guy who's always telling them everything the King wants them to hear. Just imagine the guy yelling things like X Kingdom wants to invade us, the price of goods is going up (but payment remains the same), and the employment rate is better this year than last year (no specifics, it just is).

Its the same shit, only with a much broader audience.

[Voice for Peace]

63. No. Fear itself is inside your head. Escort it back out

[Contrary1]

65. Now you're getting it...

Trump doesn't want to be President...there's no money for him there. He will be throwing the election to Hillary, which was the plan all along.

[moonbabygo]

67. I think that was the plan

all along. HOwever the ego has taken over and to be president would be the largest trophy a billionaire could get

[patricia92243]

68. Trump is so mentally impaired that he cannot control himself. The billionaires will not be able

to either.

Eventually he will dig a hole with his own mouth that he cannot get out of.

The Daffy Don really is daffy.

[muriel_volestrangler]

69. It would be the failure of the USA on an epic scale to allow that to happen

It's not just 'the corporate media' who can stop a Ministry-of-Truth-style wipe of the record and collective memory; the Democratic party, independent media, websites like DU, and people in general on social media should all be able to stop a mass hallucination like "Trump would be a viable president who can be trusted". Plus the rest of the world, but it's true that many Americans are so stubborn that someone outside saying "Trump is a misogynistic, racist egomaniac who says anything and who can't be trusted an inch" is liable to make them support him just through spite.

However, I'd question why the 'corporate media' would want an unstable lunatic like Trump in charge, when they can have a business-friendly Democrat instead? Chaos is not good for business.

[Warren DeMontague]

70. Meanwhile, she listens to the David Brock crowd that tells her to pivot right for "megachurch moms"

yeah, I see some potential problems.

[joshcryer]

72. The survival of several key demographics depends on Trump losing.

They will not allow this to happen. Period. The Latino and AA and woman vote will not vote for Trump. Without them he cannot win. It's a demographic nightmare.

[kentuck]

73. He will defeat either Hillary or Bernie if they do not join forces.

In my opinion. Then, each can blame the other for the defeat.