"You are what's wrong with America today."

[kpete]

[mountain grammy]

1. K & R

[n2doc]

2. Their interest in 'life' begins at conception and ends with birth

And to tell the truth, they don't even care about the fetus, except as an instrument to control and punish women.

[mac56]

6. They love the babies UNTIL they're born.

[SwankyXomb]

33. Then again when they need them as grist for the war machines

Use them up, then throw them aside again.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

40. That...

... eom.

[Moostache]

7. Amen! They care about the fetus as much as who is in what bathroom...ZERO F's

I loath hypocrites, but the GOP and their fanatic base are beyond hypocritical.

They seek to control and demean women at every turn and its disgusting.
The latest bullshit about bathroom access is just another example in a never ending avalanche down bullshit mountain (come back sooner Mr. Stewart!)

[smirkymonkey]

16. +1000

[TwilightZone]

12. Agreed. They don't care about the fetus; otherwise, they wouldn't cut stuff like pre-natal care

much of which, of course, is provided by Planned Parenthood.

They just want to be able to use it as a tool.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. Finally a thread attacking who we need to be attacking instead of each other.

[yardwork]

9. Rec

[NoMoreRepugs]

23. eggsactly redstatebluegirl..... too many people here missing the big picture

[nikto]

44. Just as long as Democrats don't go Conservative and adopt polices similar to GOPers

That's not acceptable, IMO.

[Heidi]

4. Kick!

[LittleGirl]

5. HUGE K & R eom

[Wounded Bear]

8. K & R ......for visibility..nt

[Silver_Witch]

10. Especially female republicans who aren self-righteous!

Who would keep third fellow woman down. For those woman I actually grieve so much self-loathing!

[jtuck004]

11. Don't forget all the people who let them.n/t

[Auggie]

22. ^^^ Thread Winner ^^^

[Kip Humphrey]

13. Am I the only one to remember the epidemic of botched abortion deaths of young women before

Roe v. Wade? I do and I remember the nation breathing a sigh of release when the court verdict came down. Today, as a result of republicon efforts to deny women access to abortions, the death toll from botched abortions is once again on the rise.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

[classof56]

18. I too remember that, Kim.

Back in the 50s, I had a friend who when pregnant (yes, she was married) required heart surgery and the pregnancy had to be terminated. Fortunately, some judge agreed to let that happen and the surgery proceeded. With the advent of "The Pill" in the 60s, the rate of back-alley abortions doubtless decreased, but Roe v Wade was a giant step forward for our nation. I dread the thought of it being overturned.

[fasttense]

14. They pretend to be Christian and concerned Grandmothers

But they are really terrorists out to force pregnancies on every woman. They are murders disguised as our neighbors.

[Bad Dog]

15. Why so much concern about the unborn child,

and so little for the born child. This issue is a non starter in Britain, (with the exception of Northern Ireland,) the godsquad lost its influence a long time ago.

[elljay]

27. Because it's not really about the unborn chld

It is about control. The same people don't want us to control our own sexuality, our identity, our rights to make end-of-life decisions, our environment. Freedom scares them.

[Bad Dog]

35. Funny how you've got separation of church and state.

We haven't yet are abortion rules are far more liberal.

[elljay]

37. Your fault!

Europe pushed out so many religious refugees it wouldn't tolerate and sent them to the U.S. We got your Calvinists, Anabaptists and all kinds of others and gave them an opportunity to live as they wished. Unfortunately, not all of these groups play well with other people who happen to be different and they drive the rest of us crazy. Take some back, please!!!!

[Bad Dog]

38. You've got it back to front.

They were leaving because they didn't like Catholics being allowed freedoms. They wanted to set up a society where they could all be puritanical together.

[Martin Eden]

17. "So do"

Those first two words of the 2nd paragraph can be construed as conceding the point that abortion kills innocent humans.
If I believed abortion kills innocent human beings I would be opposed to it.

Otherwise, spot-on.

[SheilaT]

29. And if you opposed abortion,

I'd point out that you don't need to have one. Otherwise, don't presume to tell anyone else what to believe.

Note the if in the first line.

As several here have already pointed out, it's all about control of women.

[Martin Eden]

30. I don't, and you're missing my point

In the national debate we must not concede the basis of their "moral" argument that abortion kills innocent children.

BTW, there was no "if" in the first line of the OP.

[SheilaT]

32. I misplaced your "if" in my reply, and I apologize for that.

It was careless of me.

However, if for me abortion is not a moral issue, I simply will not buy into the argument that it kills a person. I will not concede some sort of moral higher ground.

I have been known to say to people that if they don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. That statement actually brought an incredibly annoying 15 year old right wing conservative religious fanatic, and a male to boot, to stunned silence.

Plus, if they are claiming higher moral ground you'd think they'd be very eager to provided good prenatal services, and support for mothers and babies after the birth. But they never do. So much for their morals.

[Martin Eden]

34. We are essentially in agreement

The anti-choice side does not hold the moral high ground but they insist they do, and it is based on the premise that an abortion kills an innocent person.

That is a point which must never be conceded.

[ancianita]

19. Not cool. It just riles up and redirects internal rage toward those in the same boat we are.

[Cal33]

20. I am talking about the top people only: Arrogant? Yes. Ignorant? Hardly! They know

exactly what they're doing. They've deliberately made, and are still making, more and
more poor people still poorer with the ways and means you've described above. It's
for profit. And they couldn't care less what suffering the poor go through before they
die -- as long as these sociopaths and psychopaths can make their ill-gotten profits.
It's in their character not to care. Their greed is limitless!

[ProfessorGAC]

24. That Being Said

They would be cranky old men tilting at windmills if it weren't for the truly ignorant and arrogant masses they have listening to their hypocrisy.

[LaydeeBug]

21. kick. nt

[ancianita]

25. What's wrong is our blame game in politics. See...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027850170

[ffr]

26. Wish I could DU recommend until my mouse button broke

Smug, arrogant, ignorant, hypocrites, the lot of 'em!

[Fresh_Start]

28. +1000 nt

nt

[gademocrat7]

31. K&R!

Absolutely spot on!

[SmittynMo]

36. With record unfavorability by Trump and HRC,

you have to ask yourself, "What the hell are we doing?" Why is either of these even being considered?

Without Bernie in the picture, I feel we deserve exactly what we get in November.

168 days to go. God help us all.

[Delphinus]

39. So, so true!

Thank you for sharing.

[colsohlibgal]

41. They Are Hypocrite Central

it says a lot about the dumbing down of way too many citizens who readily buy the half truths, outright lies, etc of Faux News, Rush blowhard, etc.

Oh and believe the "Flintstones" was a cartoon documentary, that the earth and universe is only 6000 years old or 5000 or whatever. It is nonsense and provably wrong.

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. KnR

[Liberal_Dog]

43. K & R