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Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:24 PM May 2016

Boy drowns in Eagan pool

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EAGAN, Minn. - A 4-year-old boy did not survive after being pulled from a pool at an apartment complex in Eagan Sunday night.

First responders were called to the Town Centre at Lexington apartment complex at 3470 Golf View Drive shortly after 6 p.m. and were told a 4-year-old boy pulled had been pulled from the indoor pool. Rescuers were unsure how long he had been under the water.  

Lifesaving measures were started and the boy was rushed to St. Paul Children’s Hospital. Eagan police released information Monday morning announcing that the child did not survive.


http://www.kare11.com/news/local/boy-drowns-in-eagan-pool/211749734

Truly awful.

I've seen a lot of posts about firearm related deaths, but we all too often fail to recognize the more frequent causes of death that are much more likely to occur. See the CDC statistics for more information.

http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/leading_causes_injury_deaths_age_group_highlighting_violence-related-injury_deaths_us_2009-a.pdf
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raging moderate

(4,291 posts)
1. Yes, awful.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
May 2016

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
2. Stories like this ...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

... ARE truly awful.

It is unfortunate that children drown in pools, often despite every safety precaution being taken that such an accident doesn't happen.

As for firearm-related deaths, we're talking there about 100% preventable "accidents" (e.g. firearms safely stored and locked, so that no child - nor any adult - can access them and fire them, "accidentally" or otherwise.)

Children who accidentally drown in pools were not thrown into the deep end by adults. Children who are accidentally shot - or who accidentally shoot others - ARE thrown into the deep end by adults who stand poolside, horrified!, while insisting they have no idea how such a tragedy could have happened.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. I was going to post something
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:25 AM
May 2016

But this pretty much explains it, even if it won't make any sense to folks determined not to see it.

petronius

(26,594 posts)
6. People choose to have these things, although they are not necessities
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

They can be very hazardous when children access them without proper supervision, perhaps resulting in injury or death. Many means are available to protect children from this unsafe access--right up to the simple choice of not having these things. And yet, too many people apparently choose not to avail themselves of these precautionary means, with tragic outcomes...

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
10. I agree.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:02 AM
May 2016

Human error.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
8. I agree with some of your post.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:56 AM
May 2016

The part about this being truly awful.

But a child losing their life in a pool is just as preventable. Young children should never be left in or around a pool unattended, all pools should be gated but public access pools like at a club or apartment complex need to be gated and locked when not in use. Children should not be allowed to run around close to the perimeter of the pool. You get the point.

With respect to young children, both of these "accidental" means of death are due to a common problem - human error. Toddlers are much more likely to drown as per the CDC, but you never see the same level of concern being expressed. To me, a preventable death is a preventable death.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
3. Wow, use this kids death to get in a whine about guns control, wtf is wrong with you? Nt
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016
 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
9. Perhaps you could apply some logic.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:01 AM
May 2016

How preventable deaths related to human error don't get the same level of public safety concern, despite one type being a more common cause of death for young children. Pools and bodies of water can be incredibly dangerous.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
11. Like I said, the ONLY reason you posted that is to bring up some gun shit. nt
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. What specific and objective measure are you basing "same level of public concern" on?
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

What specific and objective measure are you basing "same level of public concern" on?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
5. One of most awful things I have seen was a three year girl underwater.
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

I was in Aruba, vacation with my cousin and their kids. We were in the pool and there was a short little slide into the pool. I was catching the 5 year old at the bottom of the slide because she was a little scared, but once in the water, she would paddle to the ladder and run back to the slide. I was watching her get to the ladder and heard a splash behind me. Turned around and saw a three year old standing on the bottom in three feet of water, looking up at me, head totally submerged.

Her dad launched out of the hot tub next to the pool and I lunged towards her. We had her 7 feet in the air within seconds after she went in and she was crying as soon as she broke the surface. I'll never forget the look on her face as she stared at me through the water. Happy outcome, but scary.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
7. Horrifying. I'm glad you were there. n/t
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:45 AM
May 2016
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. lulz
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. The CDC is permitted to research safety related issues regarding swimming pools, but not guns.
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

Thankfully, the CDC is permitted to research health and safety related issues regarding swimming pools.

Unfortunately in 1996, the NRA accused the agency of promoting gun control and Congress threatened to strip the agency’s funding, and have denied them the dedicated funding to research health and safety issues regarding guns.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
15. Locking, please post in one of the Gun groups.
Fri May 27, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

Thanks for understanding.

Raine.

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