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imanamerican63

(13,671 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:16 PM May 2016

Oh, Donald tell us the real reason why you back out of having a debate with Sen. Sanders?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by tammywammy (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I don't buy it for a minute that because you worried about the Democratic nomination process is rigged! You are afraid he won't back down from you during all your insults and BS lines of untruth facts. You won't be able hide from any other debates from here on out, which either Hillary or Bernie won't be easy to push around!

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Oh, Donald tell us the real reason why you back out of having a debate with Sen. Sanders? (Original Post) imanamerican63 May 2016 OP
He still doesn't know what the nuclear triad is... JHB May 2016 #1
Maybe he's afraid that he might have to face Bernie Sanders in the General Election. bjo59 May 2016 #2
Trump was trying to avoid a Joseph Welch moment. no_hypocrisy May 2016 #3
I think he would tell you that he won as much as he could win from this situation. Tal Vez May 2016 #4
Those are sure some fancy excuses for someone who plain chickened out Scientific May 2016 #6
Well, that's the way Trump sees these things. Tal Vez May 2016 #8
There is no gain for trump to discuss anything with second place guy...if beachbumbob May 2016 #5
All hat... world wide wally May 2016 #7
And a teeny-tiny hat at that gratuitous May 2016 #9
and even tinier gloves world wide wally May 2016 #11
That ^^^ tavernier May 2016 #15
"He bravely ran away, away...Brave, brave Sir Trumpy" smirkymonkey May 2016 #10
The same reason Hillary will not bother to debate him. Walk away May 2016 #12
Simple! He's chicken -- and Sanders is that Kentucky Fried guy! struggle4progress May 2016 #13
He's a fucking wind bag madokie May 2016 #14
Locking tammywammy May 2016 #16

JHB

(37,133 posts)
1. He still doesn't know what the nuclear triad is...
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

...and Bernie might ask.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
2. Maybe he's afraid that he might have to face Bernie Sanders in the General Election.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

That's not the way it was planned to work out, either for him or Hillary Clinton. Trump is a fake threat to the system. Sanders is a real one.

no_hypocrisy

(45,780 posts)
3. Trump was trying to avoid a Joseph Welch moment.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016


Watch the whole thing but the part I'm specifying starts at 1:05 to 1:20.

BTW, at 2:05, check out Trump BFF until AIDS, Roy Cohn, who was McCarthy's BFF until the party ended.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
4. I think he would tell you that he won as much as he could win from this situation.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

Trump is very conscious of how he appears vis-a-vis others around him. In this case, he succeeded in placing himself in a dominant position vis-a-vis Sanders. He had Sanders waiting for Trump to decide for both of them what they will be doing next week. Sanders was made to appear to be at home hoping and waiting that Trump would call and oblige Sanders by appearing at a debate with Sanders. Trump kept the ball in his court at all times. He was in control of the outcome. Sanders allowed himself to be placed in a submissive role, waiting to learn what Trump would give him. Trump loves this kind of thing. He loves to appear to be dominating and controlling everyone around him.

So, what more did Trump have to gain by an actual debate? He already demonstrated his dominance over Sanders. As far as Trump is concerned, he won the moment - he won the real debate. "Sorry, Sanders, I can't help you. I'm the nominee. You will never be my equal. Thanks for waiting for me to decide your future. I did the best I could for you. I hope you understand that."

Scientific

(314 posts)
6. Those are sure some fancy excuses for someone who plain chickened out
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

Throw down a challenge, and then whimp out like Trump is doing? Well, you can make all the carnival excuses you want, but it's still a super massive Republican chicken out.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
8. Well, that's the way Trump sees these things.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

For Trump, everything is about appearances and dominance. Sanders very patiently and submissively waited for Trump to decide his future.

As I posted this morning, Sanders blew an opportunity to seize the initiative. He should have told Trump that there would be no fundraising involved because, quite frankly, Trump is a con man and cannot be trusted with the money. By just saying that, Sanders would be landing punches before the debate began. He should have picked a venue and a date. "Trump, you need to be at the LA Coliseum Monday night at 6 p.m. And, you need to bring a check for half the cost of renting the venue and security. You have until tomorrow at noon to either commit to being there or you will be viewed as the coward that I think you really are." I

I don't know what Trump would do, but by seizing the initiative, Sanders would have become the dominant party rather than the submissive party. And, for Trump, that is what it is all about. People who want to beat Trump need to understand that about Trump.

Trump believes he got everything that he wanted.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. There is no gain for trump to discuss anything with second place guy...if
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

They ain't talking about Hillary...even Bernie would put that off limits...

world wide wally

(21,719 posts)
7. All hat...
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

No cowboy

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. And a teeny-tiny hat at that
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

I carry no brief for either Sanders or Clinton, but Trump is well-advised to stay as far away from one-on-one discussions as he can. When there's nobody on the stage to deflect to, and just one other person vying for air time, Trump will not do well. If he went head-to-head with Sanders, Sanders would carve him up. Both Sanders and Clinton do something that Trump's Republican adversaries don't do very well: They both listen and respond to what their opponent says.

When there's 10 Lilliputians on the stage (or even just three) battling for air time, Trump can dominate because everyone else wants to be sure he gets his talking points in, and they don't have the luxury of time to answer Trump's nonsense. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump refuses to participate in any post-convention debates, and as bad as that will be, it won't be worse than actually getting on stage one-on-one with the Democratic nominee.

world wide wally

(21,719 posts)
11. and even tinier gloves
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:10 PM
May 2016

He can't debate one on one because he doesn't know anything about anything. All he can do is call names and try to brag about himself. Just try to categorize every word out of his mouth and it fits into one of those two categories…. Unless he is telling a lie, of course which makes it 3 categories.

Lets review:
1_ Name Calling
2_ Bragging
3_ Telling lies


That concludes today's lesson on Phony Donny

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
15. That ^^^
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

And that's exactly what Bernie should tell the press.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. "He bravely ran away, away...Brave, brave Sir Trumpy"
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

He's afraid Bernie will wipe the floor with his ass if it comes down to a real debate on the issues. Coward!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. The same reason Hillary will not bother to debate him.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:14 PM
May 2016

There is no point in debating the loser. There is simply no upside.

struggle4progress

(118,041 posts)
13. Simple! He's chicken -- and Sanders is that Kentucky Fried guy!
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. He's a fucking wind bag
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

Nothing more or nothing less. Anyone who plans on voting for him is an idiot, in my opinion.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
16. Locking
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:05 PM
May 2016

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