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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is nothing that justifies egging this Trump supporter. Nothing
Last edited Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:28 PM - Edit history (2)
I feel so bad for this person.
The unidentified woman who got egged Thursday night at a raucous Donald Trump rally became a flashpoint and a trending Twitter moment as the Republican presidential candidate spoke at the San Jose Convention Center.
Her identity remained a mystery on Friday. Even a front desk employee at the Hilton San Jose hotel where she was attacked, didn't think she was a guest there.
Bernie Sanders Fans Line Up for Miles in Oakland
But her image was documented by reporters, citizen journalists and photographers, showing the aftermath of what happened to her: Her blond hair and cheeks were streaked with egg yolk.
Sara Murray from CNN also captured the woman, who appears to be in her 30s and wearing a red-white-and-blue USA Trump T-shirt, entering the hotel, which is connected to the convention center. Murray tweeted that the woman flipped the bird and taunted anti-Donald Trump protesters, who in turn, threw egg on her. Other witnesses told NBC Bay Area that the woman and her friend were harassing them, and yelling racist remarks before the egg was lobbed.

11 Bravo
(24,103 posts)I can only imagine how terrified she must have been after being chased, cornered, and pelted with (according to news reports) eggs and bottles.
Such behavior is unforgivable.
Maru Kitteh
(30,104 posts)mac56
(17,714 posts)Not representative of any Democratic Party values. Appalling.
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TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Absolutely disgusting attack. Hope that the folks are arrested and charged. And I'm glad it didn't get any worse. It is really sickening to me that people would surround and assault someone for supporting a political candidate.
Takket
(22,948 posts)Ilsa
(62,731 posts)and everything to lose on top of violence being WRONG.
Gothmog
(162,234 posts)Violence is never appropriate
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)It's stupid and counter-productive.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)Some people on the fence will be very turned off by watching a woman being victimized this way. Not a good way to prove a point.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Igel
(36,741 posts)Just not this kind of a negative assertion.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Reter
(2,188 posts)And now that woman is 100 times more supportive of Trump. Telling her about his awful positions is the way to change her mind. Egging her makes Trump look right.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)afraid we shall have to agree to disagree.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Though nothing justifies it, I don't feel badly for anyone being hit with an egg, anymore than I'd feel badly for anyone falling down onto a three foot deep pile of bubble-wrap.
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)If anything, all this does is draw more fence sitters over to Trump.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I feel sorrow very badly for you.
braddy
(3,585 posts)would have suffered in their life, and in a practical sense, regardless of what she had planned for that day, it is over now, it will take hours for her to deal with and clean up and recover from what those people did to her.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)than what someone did to the paint job on my car.
Just kidding. I did have to get my car repainted, and the new paint job was crap and didn't last long...and it really pissed me off...
but nobody deserves to be hit with anything...not even nerf balls, because even if they aren't hurt by it, it has to be terrifying to think someone is coming after you and might try to hurt you or worse.
I hope she learned that in this day and age of road rage, it's not wise to taunt people like that, but it never should have resulted in violence. NEVER
And yes, this IS violence...even if it didn't include chasing, cornering, and bottle throwing, I consider throwing something at another person in anger.
It's just wrong.
Bernardo de La Paz
(55,000 posts)Aside from it being assault plain and simple (fear of life and limb), the woman has to wash her hair now and her clothing may be damaged and need replacing.
Attack her beliefs, not her person or her property.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)by an egg? I have. It left a very nasty welt on my cheek and had swollen lips.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)These are several cornerstones of our democracy.
Now, no, the government is not censoring or preventing her from assembling, but she was assaulted for expressing her views.
I can't believe you're so blase about a member of the public having an egg thrown in their face because they were attending a political rally, even for someone like Trump. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Logical
(22,457 posts)opiate69
(10,129 posts)Would that I could pelt you with an egg to the face. Then you would be able to come back and double-post about just how unlike falling into a pile of bubble wrap it felt.
JI7
(91,806 posts)They seem more like they want an excuse to attack others.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... violence is violence and trying to mask it as something else doesn't change anything.
The problem with protests is that any asshole can show up claiming to be on your side. Not necessarily.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Are we 100% sure that this woman was egged by protesters or paid operatives of her political hero? I'm not looking to make excuses, because the perpetrators definitely need to be brought before a judge and made to answer for their crimes, but if they were hired by someone (Donald Trump comes to mind; he's hired people to cheer for him, remember?) then their paymaster should be in court, too.
griloco
(848 posts)the Brooks Brothers "riot" in Palm Beach 2000
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)There's zero evidence these assholes were hired by Trump, so why even bring it up other than to excuse their behavior?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Remember the initial reporting when Trump announced his candidacy was all about the cheering throngs in the building lobby. Then the word started leaking out that the crowd might not have been quite as spontaneous and supportive as reporters were led to believe. Then it turned out that the Trump campaign had actually done a cattle call in the acting community to get people to show up and cheer lustily for him. It was all as fake as Prairie Chapel.
But take a look at my post: I said the perpetrators should be hauled before a judge and made to answer any criminal charges. If these goons were paid for their thuggery, then their paymasters should be in the dock with them. I don't see how that can be construed to "excuse their behavior."
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Then. But I don't think there's any reason to think these folks were Trump supporters.
niyad
(123,460 posts)the anti-drumpf people with her vile comments.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Whatever candidate they purport to support (if any) is damaged by such idiocy.
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)rollin74
(2,165 posts)this kind of behavior only helps trump
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Very inappropriate
bluedigger
(17,225 posts)Angel Martin
(942 posts)shows the previous 30 seconds as well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Now whatever her thoughts might have been, she will now feel reinforced as a Trump supporter and now not open to any new ideas or concepts.
All one gets from being mean is shutout and tuned out, it does not magically cause the person to change their mind. "OH well you threw eggs at me...how could I have been so blind?"
Juvenile to the extreme and a sign of sorelosermanship.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)Raster
(21,002 posts)EVERYONE gets their chance to support their candidate, and to be able to do so without threat or harassment.
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)As a matter of fact it's insulting. Any violence against either gender is absolutely wrong - it's no worse against women than men.
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)LisaM
(29,126 posts)And I don't think it's "just" an egg. What if she has a three-hour drive home? What if she has to take the bus? She's also visibly upset. All abuse is not physical, by the way.
ReRe
(11,573 posts).... took her to the hospital to get it all documented and to be sure she wasn't physically hurt. Gave her an opportunity to take a shower and get some TLC from caring ER nurses.
dinkytron
(568 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Witnesses: Woman Egged at San Jose Donald Trump Rally Was Cussing, Yelling Anti-Mexican Remarks
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Witness-Says-She-Was-Harassed-By-Woman-Egged-at-San-Jose-Donald-Trump-Rally-381802721.html
She also said she heard many in the crowd trying to put an end to the vitriol. I heard people saying, Stop! Stop! This is what they want us to do, George said.
There is a video at the link that shows the woman laughing at the crowd...then gets hit with the egg and turns away, then turns back still laughing. She didn't look terrified by the egg...but the video ends there, and this particular news story does not say she was chased, cornered, and had bottles and eggs thrown at her.
OK, I just found it:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/protesters-assault-trump-supporters-eggs-bottles-punches-after-rally-n585096
I'm glad they were plastic bottles and not glass.

dinkytron
(568 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(64,464 posts)Violence Breaks Out at Trump Rally in San Jose, Protesters Hurl Eggs, Throw Punches, Intimidate Supporters

PHOTO: Protesters attack a man they mistakenly identified as a supporter of Republican presidential candidate
Mendocino
(8,066 posts)into her own face.
Logical
(22,457 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)It's so hard to know what's real in the bullshit world of Buy-A-Seat politics.
MizzM
(77 posts)The longer these "protests" go on, whether they are politically inspired, or racial injustice protests (or even "Occupy Wall Street" comes to mind), the more likely the riff-raff eventually shows up to cause mischief and mayhem - because they can. They are just a bunch of agitators. What better way to blame Mexicans for causing a problem at these protests than people holding Mexican flags. Gosh, they must all be Mexicans, right? The public really has no idea who many of these people are, let's face. it
valerief
(53,235 posts)Bonx
(2,323 posts)ReRe
(11,573 posts)... and the events a bit dubious if you ask me. You can't convince me that those young attackers were Bernie supporters. Bernie supporters do NOT act like that. And why did the police not intervene? If those were Bernie supporters, I can tell you right now those policemen would have been using some billy clubs and pepper spray and their arses would have been arrested pronto. Does anyone know if the police 4ever stepped in and arrested anyone? does anyone know if anyone was hurt seriously?
It was a made-up for camera set up riot. As a matter of fact, many of the scenes looked like it might be kids on spring break at Fort Lauderdale. They looked like they were having a great time. The young lady in this OP Photo was actually smiling at the beginning of the whole thing. Did anyone see that? Then when they kept egging her, it wasn't fun anymore. It was degrading and mean and then they took this photo of her. She wasn't smiling anymore.
That's what I saw, anyway. They should have rounded up the assholes and taken them in, everyone of them, I don't care who they were or why they came out to attack Trump supporters.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)there is no reason to sink to Trump supporter level.
kimbutgar
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She just could have shut up and walked back in the event and asked for an escort out.
I am editing my post to reflect the fact that two wrongs don't make it right.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Jnclr89
(128 posts)is a bit different than the one I learned in the first grade.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Those who brought the eggs were looking for a target.
Those who started the ruckus.
Could they both have been Trump supporters with the goal of making Bernie look bad?
Or even vice versa?
panader0
(25,816 posts)I thought HRC had all of the Latino vote.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Trump will get most of the Latino vote.
By a yooooooge margin.
Just ask him.
modem77
(191 posts)Resorting to violence and behavior like this solves nothing at all. Nothing.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)One of the central aspects of our form of government is the PEACEFUL transfer of power.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Was this her first rally? What a horrible experience she had. I hope she stays politically active. Too many people dont give a shit.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Oddly, if people are active, you may have a shot at "reaching them". Might take time. But you have a shot.
Egg them ... and that shot is gone.
Mendocino
(8,066 posts)who has 12 hides in the last 90 days, almost 10% hide rate, because you're... so civil?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Mendocino
(8,066 posts)There is no THEY here, it is WE. Go back back to your cave.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Mendocino
(8,066 posts)now that you've morphed, it the underside view of the bridge any different?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Mendocino
(8,066 posts)Be sure to keep your mouth open.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)And sit up straight
Buzz cook
(2,709 posts)Picture the air coming in going to the base of your spine and the air going out reaching the ends of the universe.
CountAllVotes
(21,720 posts)
Seriously, you've got to be sick in the head to show up for one of tRump's racist events. People aren't taking to him or his two-bit rallies! And then people wonder why things like this happen?



chatnoir
(1,565 posts)Someone runs up from behind and strikes him in the head with something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=EmBXNE8gZvI
840high
(17,196 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)In looking at the video it seemed that she was egging them on(sorry) right up until the egg hit her. She appeared to think it was all quite funny.
braddy
(3,585 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)WillowTree
(5,345 posts)wryter2000
(47,811 posts)We need to be better than them.
GaYellowDawg
(4,956 posts)What is not fine is any sort of physical manifestation of that anger. Period. You don't kick anyone, or hit them, or grab their hats, or egg them. Be mad. Shout. Wave signs. Gesture. But NOTHING PHYSICAL.
And it's stupid!! If that woman was harassing someone and yelling racist epithets, then FILM it and YOUTUBE it and win the moral high ground! Now she's the victim. She'll re-emerge talking about how awful leftists and liberals and Mexicans and Democrats are, and it will be ever so much easier to paint Trumpeters and Democrats with the same broad brush.
I have no issue with the anger. But what you do with that anger is entirely different.
randr
(12,544 posts)I will remain skeptical of all Political Drama coming our way. This is the type of media manipulation that will be not only possible with Trump in the game; it will be probable.
I feel sorry for the woman if she were indeed egged; I feel equally sorry for her if she was fool enough to pose as a victim for money.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)all leftists and independent journalists, starting with internment camps and going downhill from there.
All leftists must hope for the best but begin planning for the worst.
A senior Trump advisor has publicly advocated water-boarding Hillary Clinton to get the truth out of her about the email server. So laugh if you want. But remember also those who laughed in December 1932.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Or that we should condone it. If you really think Trump is going to put "leftists" in interment camps then leftists should start arming themselves.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)To me, this whole episode looks like a wrapped and tied with a bow setup. Lone blonde woman, standing in a corner, getting pelted by fruit, bottles and eggs. Fits all the elements of the script.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)I don't feel bad for her. Considering the things she supports, forget it. She may have egg in her hair but her family won't be deported if this monster gets elected. You can wash egg off. You can't wash away the damage tRump would do as President.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)All I've read is that she yelled racial slurs and then got pelted with an egg. What else happened?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)She also was spat on and cornered by quite a large crowd. She may have been hit with bottles too.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)and the rest of the racist trump brigade. Hope she had a long sticky drive home.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)From anyone who claims to be a progressive or Democrat. Hopefully Bernie/Hillary will disown this bullshit.
Logical
(22,457 posts)drokhole
(1,230 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Notice the op and the rest of the pearl clutchers have avoided your comment.
drokhole
(1,230 posts)Along with the heavy insinuation/smear that it was "Bernie Sanders Fans." Odd how this completely out-of-the-blue, non-sequitur was plugged into the OP:
"Bernie Sanders Fans Line Up for Miles in Oakland"
I guess somehow that non-contextual bit just found its way in there. Oh yeah, the egg-throwing incident happened in San Jose...for those keeping track, Oakland is 40 fucking miles away! Would have been just as relevant to say:
"Macy's was having a Memorial Day's sale in Los Angeles"
From the OP's hidden posts (transparency is a beautiful thing):
"If I was Hillary I'd make (Bernie) kiss my ass before he spoke at the convention."
"Could this also signify that all Bernie supporters are BIRDBRAINS???"
"This is the biggest collection of horrible people ever." (i.e. Bernie supporters)
Nope, no agenda here. Forgive me if I doubt the OP's sincerity of this woman's plight. Or, perhaps I can look forward to their next provocative/click-baity OP with the pics from my post and the subject line:
There is nothing that justifies pepper-spraying these Bernie(?) supporters. Nothing
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)
His "Obummercare" comment speaks louder than bombs.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)I agree in general people should not be assaulted for supporting a political candidate. But for many people in this country Trump supporters are working to enable him to do just that.
Not something I would do to be sure but I am not particularly bothered by it either. These folks are trying to get someone into office that would be devastating for many families.
I don't have a lot of respect for them nor do I think they deserve much. They clearly don't have any respect for millions of people in this country nor the country in general. In my opinion they deserve little more than scorn and ridicule.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)She would be first in line to gass the others given the chance.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)In the US that I don't respect and I don't think deserve much. I don't attack those people and I don't condone attacks on those people. "Scorn and ridicule" is a far cry from mob attacks. This attack isn't ok and shouldn't be excused in any manner. A lot of Republicans think Hillary would be devastating but they shouldn't be able to attack her supporters. I can't believe we are even having this conversation on DU.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)It's not something I would do but then I am not one of the people trump is targeting with his bigoted rhetoric.
If I was I would likely feel much more strongly about it. As it is from my perspective those supporters are just as bad as the Nazi supporters were and I reject the idea we should give them any sort of respect period.
Mohammed_Lee
(38 posts)I've seen the egg pelting from like 4 angles depending on the network...
tandot
(6,671 posts)
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)None at all.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)None.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)BTW, if Trump is elected - you think this kind of thing (should it be "real" is going to stop?
Spare me with your outrage.
There's an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico and you're losing your shit over provocateurs pelting Trump supporters with eggs.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)I have to take an elevator to pee.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)just spreading corporate media lies.
OMG they're throwing EGGS!!!!!
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Trump supporter
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)And now I like Hillary. I do bid No Trump at bridge if the count calls for it.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)let's see you acknowledge this post:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7878824
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)I dont belong to the Antioch Baptist Church. And I own a garage, you can call home and ask my wife.
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Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Hope you enjoy your stay.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)doc03
(37,752 posts)US flag was burned. Just how does burning our flag and carrying the Mexican flag advance their cause? If anything it helps Trump.
Finally who are these Sanders supporters that take part in this stupid stuff? Just what kind of people are these young Sanders supporters? I don't know could these people be planted by Trump himself, it seems to help him more than us.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)They started the hatred and the violence. This was the inevitable outcome.
840high
(17,196 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)People who resort to violence should be blamed for that violence; people exercising their legitimate democratic rights should not.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)And I've seen plenty of other Trump supporters cheering on this violence and none condemning it. Just look at the fuckwads who post on sites like "The Daily Mail" for proof.
They almost certainly do deserve a lot of blame for this. They started this asshole behavior. No one physically attacked Mitt Romney's, John McCain's, or even George W. Bush's supporters because they didn't behave like violent, uncivilized psychopaths. Violence begets violence. The morons in California came about from months and months of douchebag behavior from Trump bots.
Protalker
(418 posts)This gave Trump multimillion dollars worth of free advertisement. It was despicable and she looks gutsy. The cherry on top burning the flag. This is mob mentality and plays into their hands.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)marchellojones
(112 posts)Trump would have applauded the people who threw eags, etc!
was this justifiable? no
do I feel bad for her? no
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Public opinion is a huge part of winning general elections. This kind of attack will energize Trump's supporters and strengthen him going into the GE.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Was no big deal, what do you think makes it ok for these assholes to attack this woman and where does the violence stop? Maybe they should have stoned her while they were at it? What exact level of violence toward other Americans do you think is acceptable and what crosses the line? And I assume that the same level of violence can be directed towards Dems?
Logical
(22,457 posts)
Angel Martin
(942 posts)i case anyone doesn't understand what this was, after the Normandy invasion, when the Vichy government fell, women who had fraternized with the Germans, (mostly prostitutes) were seized by mobs and had their heads shaved.
an out of control mob going after a single individual is always disturbing to watch.
melman
(7,681 posts)to turn this incident into a "Bernie fans are violent" meme.
Another example of this here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512119470
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)
riversedge
(75,241 posts)Reter
(2,188 posts)These are the revolutionaries, the kind who worship Che Guevara and vigorously defend Nicolás Maduro, all while making excuses for Castro. 90% of us here are appalled by that kind of behavior, and that 10% should find somewhere else to post, as this is DEMOCRATIC Underground.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Softail1
(56 posts)deserve it too? After all, he was taunting, and giving the finger to the crowd. Of COURSE he didn't deserve it. So anyone who says the Trump supporter deserved it, has to agree the other guy did too, or they are hypocrites.. it was disgusting, abhorrent, mob violence.
bighughdiehl
(390 posts)Infiltrators? Trying to provoke a backlash?