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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:23 PM Jun 2016

Report: New Documents Show Snowden Tried to Alert NSA of Surveillance Concerns Before Going Public

@BreakingNews: Report: New documents show Ed Snowden tried to alert NSA of surveillance concerns before going public - VICE News https://t.co/kFPjHXpb7a/s/3BOb

https://news.vice.com/article/edward-snowden-leaks-tried-to-tell-nsa-about-surveillance-concerns-exclusive

Exclusive: Snowden Tried to Tell NSA About Surveillance Concerns, Documents Reveal

By Jason Leopold, Marcy Wheeler, and Ky Henderson

June 4, 2016 | 1:35 pm
On the morning of May 29, 2014, an overcast Thursday in Washington, DC, the general counsel of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), Robert Litt, wrote an email to high-level officials at the National Security Agency and the White House.

The topic: what to do about Edward Snowden.

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Hundreds of internal NSA documents, declassified and released to VICE News in response to our long-running Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, reveal now for the first time that not only was the truth about the "single email" more complex and nuanced than the NSA disclosed to the public, but that Snowden had a face-to-face interaction with one of the people involved in responding to that email. The documents, made up of emails, talking points, and various records — many of them heavily redacted — contain insight into the NSA's interaction with the media, new details about Snowden's work, and an extraordinary behind-the-scenes look at the efforts by the NSA, the White House, and Feinstein to discredit Snowden.

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United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18 (USSID 18) encompasses rules by which the NSA is supposed to abide in order to protect the privacy of the communications of people in the United States. Snowden was taking this and other training courses in Maryland while working to transition from a Sysadmin to an analyst position. Referring to a slide from the training program that seemed to indicate federal statutes and presidential Executive Orders (EOs) carry equal legal weight, Snowden wrote, "this does not seem correct, as it seems to imply Executive Orders have the same precedence as law. My understanding is that EOs may be superseded by federal statute, but EOs may not override statute."

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Report: New Documents Show Snowden Tried to Alert NSA of Surveillance Concerns Before Going Public (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2016 OP
But Tool of Putin!!! Hong Kong Eddie!!! OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #1
We can scratch "proper channels" off the list of shit that Snowden's bashers use. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #4
No way! Never! OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #7
No. That's not true. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #14
k&r nationalize the fed Jun 2016 #2
Yep it is our shame. zeemike Jun 2016 #8
Rogue agencies suck and make America suck too. Rex Jun 2016 #3
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise Jun 2016 #5
Just read the whole article unc70 Jun 2016 #6
Thanks Babel_17 Jun 2016 #9
K&R&bookmark JEB Jun 2016 #10
The result of the Patriot Act lovuian Jun 2016 #11
Snowden is a hero. I always believed him when he said he tried to go thru official channels riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #12
Have you noticed how the same people who demonize Snowden for exposing domestic spying... Marr Jun 2016 #13
yes grasswire Jun 2016 #15

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. We can scratch "proper channels" off the list of shit that Snowden's bashers use.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

Because it's clear Snowden did try to go through proper channels first.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
14. No. That's not true.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:39 AM
Jun 2016

Snowdon failed to use whistleblowing procedures. If he had, his emailed complaint would have involved one of the programs he mistakenly claimed was illegal. This is like writing a letter to the City Manager asking why there are so many one-way streets in town, and later claiming you gave the city notice about graft and corruption.

Moreover, this Snowden email is old news. (I thought I had mistakenly clicked on a story from 2014.). Seriously, you folks don't remember the 2014 Snowden claim that he had contacted authorities, and the Government making those non-whistleblowing emails available to the press, and everybody laughing at Snowden for claiming that the emails were even complaints?

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
2. k&r
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

The 4th Amendment is dead. Murdered. And no one marched in the streets. Like taking candy from a baby. Disgraceful. People died for the Bill of Rights. And now it's a memory. Shame on the American people for being hoodwinked by a bunch of cheap con artists.




zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. Yep it is our shame.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jun 2016

And once they discovered they can get away with it the sky is the limit.

Yes we need a revolution...I hope it is political.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Rogue agencies suck and make America suck too.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe one day someone adult enough will come along and dial them back to being responsible for their own inaction-actions.

unc70

(6,110 posts)
6. Just read the whole article
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

A long read, but worth it. This appears to be a major breakthrough in understanding what was going on inside NSA regarding Snowden. A lot of new details, wish the intro in the article was a bit clearer before getting deep into the details.

Really glad to have all the new details. Glad they weren't off on some private server.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
9. Thanks
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jun 2016

This is one of those "you have to dig into it" cases. We really need a panel with the best minds on it to discuss this. I think enough is known to make a first effort at putting it all into perspective.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
12. Snowden is a hero. I always believed him when he said he tried to go thru official channels
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jun 2016

Glad to have evidence.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
13. Have you noticed how the same people who demonize Snowden for exposing domestic spying...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

wholeheartedly defend Hillary Clinton's sloppy handling of classified info to maintain her own privacy?

That's like... hypocrisy squared.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. yes
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

what are they, aside from authoritarians? Openly displayed here on DU. Fighting like hell to protect.............what? The intelligence state?

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