Chinese students assaulted by woman in Arizona for speaking Mandarin on the train

[yuiyoshida]

Police in Arizona have arrested one woman who was provoked to punch a couple of Chinese students after overhearing them speaking Mandarin inside a light rail train.

Xiaolin Shi, an undergraduate student at Arizona State University, and her male companion were having a conversation in Mandarin Chinese while taking the train back to their college in Tempe on the night of May 20th -- their choice of language was apparently enough to anger another passenger.

"I don't speak Chinese, shut the fuck up!" 22-year-old Kalie Rutledge shouted at the couple, also telling Shi: "Bitch, go fucking back to China!"

The Chinese couple tried to leave the train at the next stop, but Rutledge came at them and punched Shi right in the face.

"I lost consciousness for a few seconds, and then I found myself on the ground with blood all over my face," Shi told China Daily. Rutledge also punched her male companion in the face before taking off.

http://shanghaiist.com/2016/06/03/arizona_woman_attacks_mandarin_speakers.php

[jpak]

1. They were "Trumped"

grab her gunz

yup

[Warpy]

2. Nobody looks their best in a mug shot

but Rutledge looks like she's been rode hard and put away wet for most of her life.

I wonder what her serum alcohol was.

[d_r]

4. nevermind

that picture isn't her.

[jberryhill]

7. That pic is not her

This is her:



Instead of an annual student photo, she has quite the mugshot collection, going back to 2014:











She is arrested every couple of months for one offense or another (although sometimes for failure to appear in response to a previous offense)

[ToxMarz]

23. Seems she celebrates each new arrest with a new hairstyle

[romanic]

37. She looks like a methed-out Olivia Hussey.

[McCamy Taylor]

40. She has the blank gaze of someone born addicted.

Gonna be interested to hear her back story--what made her the person she is now.

[safeinOhio]

3. Kalie will learn some new words

In the joint.

[Person 2713]

5. People always try to reason with me that it is rude if they hear people talking in another language

I ask are you part of the conversation? They say no but they don't know what the people are talking about so basically they are mad they can not easedrop on strangers

[yuiyoshida]

6. Or they think the people

speaking the language are talking about THEM behind their back. At least, that's What I have heard when I have spoken Japanese with a friend.

[jberryhill]

8. See mugshots above

This person is apparently just a garden variety sociopath.

[Person 2713]

9. Paranoid and vain? No way to go through life! As if these victims even noticed her please people

it's not all about you and don't be scared by strange things you don't understand .
Speaking another language is also not devil's work or terrorism or a communist plot either. ...

[yuiyoshida]

12. I have been booted and banned from

several chat rooms for speaking Japanese. The people there thought we were talking about them behind their backs. Its always about them... while I was brushing up on a language I don't get to use often enough. I have since learned to use it in my own chat rooms, and if they don't like it, they can leave.

[geardaddy]

14. It's also the reason most English people who don't like the Welsh language being spoken around them.

And that's by Welsh people in their own country. Those English types think that the Welsh are being rude by speaking their own language.

[Person 2713]

65. IN many countries people are excited about hearing other languages and learning them

Here ? The boot or be banned or in the victim's case a real fist to the head

[yuiyoshida]

67. I don't get it, its like all the

Bigoted people have come out of the wood work.. I am glad I live among the Asian population in San Francisco, because I would hate to live in another kind of neighborhood and be called names while walking down the street...

[Oneironaut]

24. Haha "omg omg everyone is out to get me!"

People are wacky. I believe that Trump fans are especially prone to crazy, warped thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if this woman were a trump supporter. Nutcase...

[Ilsa]

29. Yeah, the world and even strangers revolve around me Me ME!!!

I've had to tell my visiting MIL that other things are on my mind besides her.

[yuiyoshida]

32. Its true

seen it so many times. Along with "Ching chong Ching Chong" ringing in my ears.

[Feeling the Bern]

51. But aren't you Japanese? Ching chong bullshit like that is reserved for Chinese I do believe.

[yuiyoshida]

54. Hey, to some white people

We all look alike. I was called a "Chink" once. I told them, wrong Nationality, I am Japanese. He replied "all you slant eyes look a like!" ...there ya have it.. pure ignorance.

[Feeling the Bern]

55. Naw. . .my wife's a Chink. You're a nip and one of my best friends is a gook (Korean)

Pure sarcasm here. Don't flag me here. Making a huge, yet rather tasteless joke.

[yuiyoshida]

58. OH yes I know that....

but some think we look all a like. Ya, know...the Trump Supporter kind.

[felix_numinous]

10. Trump is a domestic threat

and the violence he is inciting should be illegal, his tactics should be taken a lot more seriously by law enforcement. That is, the non racist law enforcement.

[jberryhill]

26. Her arrest record goes back to 2014

Explain the connection between Trump and this woman with a long history of criminal offenses.

[felix_numinous]

28. I don't have to explain my opinion

to anyone, if you cannot see Trump's effect on violent behavior there is nothing more I can say, sorry.

[jberryhill]

31. Xenophobes have never needed Trump

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10359204
Tourist attacked for speaking Chinese
1:00 PM Friday Dec 9, 2005

So, it couldn't have been that a sociopathic woman with a long history of arrests for violent crimes has committed another one.

[felix_numinous]

33. OK agreed but Trump is opening the crazy door

and legitimizing the very worst behavior to come out of the woodwork, there is a trend in racially motivated crimes since he has been in the spotlight. Sorry I feel very strongly about this and it comes out in my writing, that this guy is the exact wrong person to give power to.

[jberryhill]

34. "there is a trend in racially motivated crimes"

Where might I find data suggesting that trend?

[felix_numinous]

35. Again this is my opinion

not a discussion about data please.

[bighart]

45. I appreciate your passion and

believe that his brand of rhetoric is dangerous.
Your statement of a "trend" however would require data to verify that is the case.

[kiva]

74. I really don't understand.

You think X. Someone comes along and proves that X isn't true. Your response is to say that you don't care that X is proven to be false, you still believe X. This is the mindset we are fighting in this country, not something liberals should be adopting.

[jberryhill]

89. Objective reality is optional these days

[Captain Stern]

109. Your opinion is obviously wrong.

You should change it.

[yuiyoshida]

64. Once again, No Asians on that chart...

I guess we don't exist.

[Person 2713]

69. And as the OP story shows , no need to document hate crimes against Asians as a group

Just doesn't happen., nope no need ...

[yuiyoshida]

72. PEOPLE STILL DON'T ACCEPT

that Asians belong in this country. I get ASKED a lot when I am visiting Fisherman's wharf... "HEY what COUNTRY are you from??" I say USA.... I was born in San Francisco..."NO I MEAN WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM???" oH...you mean, I am Asian? "YEAH, WHAT KIND OF ASIAN ARE YOU??" ...
I am one that wanted to see your store here, but I guess I will move on, thanks..." "NO BUT ARE YOU CHINESE??" "why?? will it make your day to brag to your friends that you talked to an Asian girl?"
"Yeah, Girl, you a hottie..." (me: rolls my eyes)

[kentauros]

93. Some people just don't get it about living in a diverse city.

When I see Arabs, and Asians, and Latinos, and Africans, and Indians, and Native Americans, and so on, around here, I also assume that they live here. Houston's pretty diverse these days, and it's great! And when I hear them speaking in their native languages, I also love it. Can't understand them, but I love to listen to other languages. It's like music to me.

I guess some people have rejected the "melting pot" of which they were likely educated when growing up. It's almost like ignorance is being taught now.

[jberryhill]

99. If you bother to read the report from which the chart is taken

Asians come in at 1% in the LA County Hate Crime Report, and would not be visible on that chart of "Most Frequently Targeted" groups. The raw data is in the report linked elsewhere in this thread.

[elljay]

71. FBI Unified Crime Report Data 2014

This relates to hate crime statistics. The FBI will be releasing a unified hate crime report in 2016 that also includes 2015 statistics. In the 2014 report, 5.5% of race-based incidents related to people of Asian ancestry.


The link to the 2014 report is here: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2014/topic-pages/incidentsandoffenses_final

[yuiyoshida]

78. "5.5 percent resulted from anti-Asian bias."

You should hear some of the comments from tourists in SAN FRANCISCO Chinatown.. some of it, will just make you squirm. When I go there, the most common question is...well, it reminds me of this scene...

[jberryhill]

77. "Most Frequently Targeted Groups"

You want to be on that chart?

or are you suggesting Asians are discriminated against by not being beat up as frequently as other groups?

[yuiyoshida]

81. Um...WE

are not even represented, even in a positive situation.

[jberryhill]

86. That's an utterly bizarre comment

The chart is of hate crimes against "most frequently targeted groups". It's not supposed to be a "positive situation" or a "negative situation". It is taken from The 2014 Hate Crime Report compiled by the LA County Commission on Human Relations that examines hate crime data.

As noted above, Asians constitute 5.5% nationally - the report for LA County has Asians at 1% - it wouldn't be visible on the scale of that graph.

I don't presume that you are good at math, but you are looking at a chart where the increment on the Y - axis is in units of 50, and the total number of crimes in the most recent year is around 300 (by adding up the individual lines).

What that means, is that "Asians" (which by the way overlaps with LGBT as do all ethnic groups) would be a teeny-tiny little line of around one-fifth the smallest increment on the graph.

But, no, of course, the exclusion of a group which doesn't even rate a tick on the graph MUST be the result of some kind of bias, in presentation of "Most Frequently Targeted Groups".

It must be because Southern California Public Radio has it in for Asians. http://www.scpr.org/news/2015/09/24/54616/hate-crimes-in-la-county-inch-up-in-2014/

Clearly, the following contributors to the report from which the graphic is taken, must HATE Asians:

Kathay Feng Esq.
Michael Gi-Hao Cheung
Ashlee Oh
Riku Matsuda
Marshall Wong

...obviously biased against Asians in some way. Is that what you want to go with?

[yuiyoshida]

90. I am mostly talking about Polls

They will list Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, ....but then where are the Asians?? ...SORRY, not enough to be on this poll, they don't exist.

When we built American Railroads, we existed, after that ...not so much. When The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor... WE EXISTED... PLACED IN INTERNMENT CAMPS. How many Asian American actors do you see in Tv and movies? Top Billing? Not many. How many ASIAN AMERICAN SINGERS DO you like and follow?? None?? THATS about right. We HAVE ALWAYS been considered outsiders to this country. Its like we don't belong here.. I hear it every day..."What country are you from?" I am from America.. "No really, where are you from??" WTF.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027883469

[jberryhill]

91. What Poll?

What poll was posted here?

That is a report of LA County crime DATA. It is not a poll.

I'm sorry you feel that Asians aren't beat up frequently enough to appear in a chart of hate crimes in LA county by "Most Frequent Victims".

If you look at page 11 of the LA County Report, you will find that Asians are 1% of victims of reported hate crimes, while Whites - yes Whites - at 3%.

Get out and get beat up more in LA County, and the numbers will change more, but to be upset that Asians aren't beat up enough in LA County is simply bizarre.

WTF is with talking about "polls"?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2430269-hate-crime-report-2014.html#document/p2

[yuiyoshida]

92. I am not going to argue with you

whats the point? You don't listen to what I say or ignore it. We're done here, k? Or...did you not hear that? I would be happy to repeat it, or say it in Japanese if you like.

[jberryhill]

94. "You don't listen to what I say or ignore it"

Yes, I listen to what you say.

You say the data on hate crimes is wrong, that the LA Human Rights Commission is biased against Asians, and that Asians are disadvantaged by not being beat up enough in Los Angeles.

You refuse to believe the data collected by the LA Human Rights Commission on hate crimes, which was posted here in response to someone else's comments about a "trend".

You have no other data to offer which contradicts the data posted. Feelings are not data, and reality is not an opinion.

[yuiyoshida]

95. Watashitachi wa koko de okonawa anata ni kansha shite imasu.

私たちはここで行わあなたに感謝しています。 sayonnara.

[jberryhill]

97. .

私が行っていたときに私に言うためにあなたの仕事ではありません。私は私の心を話すさせていただいております。

[Maedhros]

98. You should have just let him continue whitesplaining

...or not.

The ignore list is, indeed, our friend.

[jberryhill]

100. Contributors to the LA County Hate Crimes Report

Kathay Feng Esq.
Michael Gi-Hao Cheung
Ashlee Oh
Riku Matsuda
Marshall Wong


"whitesplaining"

Yep. I guess the authors of the report do not exist to you.

[yuiyoshida]

101. I don't put people on ignore

unless its coming to my mail box, and if its nasty enough, I send it to Skinner. Some people can't deal with people not like them.. Its amazing how Xenophobic and how many bigots there are on this website. But I try to be nice.. its still here.

[Maedhros]

102. There is a strong contingent that are intent on convincing us that everything is just fine

and that we shouldn't be upset about anything.

[jberryhill]

106. Where do you get that from?

We have a story about a woman who has a half-decade long arrest record of violent crime. She is a deranged sociopath, and apparently a raging racist.

There is nothing "just fine" about that.

However, to extrapolate from that crazy woman who has beat up a lot of people for a lot of things to some kind of "trend", or to believe that Donald Trump is the root cause of hate crimes - as if they never existed before his candidacy - are both incorrect statements which are not supported by the data.

The personalization of all hate crime as originating with Donald Trump in some way, ignores a much more longstanding and disturbing reality.

It affords people the convenience of believing that all that need be done about hate crimes is to ensure that Donald Trump is not elected.

I'm sorry, I don't believe that hate crimes began with Donald Trump. I think this country has a much longer history of racial hatred. I'm sorry that doesn't fit the "politics of the moment" approach to a longstanding problem in this country.

I don't think racism in this country started with Donald Trump, and I sure as hell don't believe it is going to end with him either.

You know, I got quite a few opinions about Japan from the Chinese folks I met in Beijing, and from a variety of Koreans in Seoul. I have never in my life seen people more pre-disposed to hate Japanese people as I encountered in Beijing and Seoul. My tour guide at the Great Wall even said, "I wish we could put up one to keep out the Japanese" as if that was some kind of acceptable comment to make. You want to find people who hate the Japanese? Try China.

[Maedhros]

96. Wow. You're abrasive.

/ignore list.

[Octafish]

11. She is alleged to have fractured a woman's eye socket.

Witnesses say the couple got off the light rail at the next stop. They say Rutledge followed them and punched the female victim in the face, fracturing her eye socket. The male victim stepped in front of the victim and was also punched in the face. Rutledge then left the area but was soon found by police and arrested.

SOURCE: http://www.abc15.com/news/crime/asian-couple-assaulted-in-tempe-for-speaking-mardarin-on-light-rail-kalie-rutledge-arrested

[geardaddy]

13. 王八蛋! Bastard!

她 是 甚 麼 狗 東 西 !

What a piece of shit!

[yuiyoshida]

16. agree... sora kara..

baka, doji, manuke.

[secondwind]

20. amen! I agree

[Feeling the Bern]

41. 傻逼! Motherfucker!

我的老婆是中国人。 如果她做那个和我看看，我会打她的屁股
My wife is Chinese. If she did that and I saw, I would have whipped her ass.

What a fucking worthless witch. I would use the "b" but I know some word police officer here on DU will get butthurt can call me a sexist to the jury.

My wife and I speak Chinese to each other all the time. It improves my Mandarin and it's easier for her to talk.

On that note. . .Arizona. My home state. *sigh*

[geardaddy]

73. 我 完 全 同 意 I completely agree

我 的 前 妻 子 是 從 台 灣 來 的.
My ex-wife is from Taiwan.
還 有 我 住 在 北 京 一 年 了. 我 聽 過 很 多 出 組 車 人 用 那 個 "傻 逼" 的 話 .
Also, I lived in Beijing for a year. I heard a lot of cab drivers use that expletive.

[Feeling the Bern]

85. 八年我住在中国 (eight years in China)

石家庄，南京，苏州
Shijiazhuang, Nanjing, Suzhou
她是狗屎
She is dog shit

[geardaddy]

87. 好季了 Great!

四 年 在 台 北
Four years in Taiwan.
她 就 是 狗 大 糞
She is indeed dog shit.

真 好 說 中 國 話 再 一 次

[Invincibility]

15. She must be a trump supporter

Possibly related to those guys who pissed on a homeless hispanic man.

[yuiyoshida]

18. or the ones who tried

to set one on fire, all for Trump.

[Kablooie]

17. Looks like she's been arrested at least 10 times in the last couple of years.

Several disorderly conducts and failure to appear.

This girl has some big problems that go beyond Trump's racist encouragement.

[IronLionZion]

19. Make America Hate Again!

[yuiyoshida]

22. The thing is I wonder if this is inspirational

for other people who might take it, into their own hands to make a point against people they perceive as "invading foreigners" Greetings from my SUSHI TABLE.

[IronLionZion]

27. America has been changing in many ways

Some people feel uneasy about some of the changes and they easily mix it into the other changes they see and want someone to blame it on.

When people want to go back to how things were before, they are usually misremembering it and longing for an imaginary scenario that just never existed.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

44. Another reason for me to be ashamed

of my country.

[IronLionZion]

50. I'm not

It's the people who want to take us backwards who should be ashamed of themselves.

[Vinca]

25. Let me guess. Kalie Rutledge is a Trump supporter?

[awoke_in_2003]

84. He does attract the xenophobic racists. nt

[lpbk2713]

30. "Talk Murkin dimmit!"

Obviously not affiliated with the Welcome Wagon or the Chamber of Commerce.

Mensa either for that matter.

[reign88]

36. Mental illness

definitely is playing a role here.

[Feeling the Bern]

48. Care to explain that? How is racism a mental illness?

[reign88]

103. I don't think racism is a mental illness

I just think given this woman's record of behavior, I wouldn't be surprised to see she had a form of paranoid delusion.

Randomly yelling "I don't speak Chinese, stfu" is odd to me. "I don't speak Chinese", not "Don't speak that <insert racist remark> language around me".

I wouldn't be surprised if she was experiencing some paranoid delusion where she thought they were speaking about her.

Edit: Oh and after re-reading the article, it does mention she has a history of mental illness at the bottom.

[Feeling the Bern]

104. And i am from Arizona. It doesn't excuse her behavior. And we need to stop looking for ways to

coddle racists and making excuses for them.

[reign88]

105. Not making excuses

All I'm saying is with her, I would wager it could have just as likely been she got into a fight with some waffles and told them to go back to Belgium.

She's obviously got a tough life and won't ever have an easy one, justice is definitely served for her.

[bucolic_frolic]

38. Has Trump weighed in?

The Asians are due for an Orange Broadside

[yuiyoshida]

39. kinda....

"I like Chinese people..."

They're good people. They work hard. They make wonderful fortune cookies...
ever eaten a fortune cookie? They are wonderful. Just amazing. And how they
stick those little fortunes in there... You have to wonder. How do they do that?
Its marvelous. Fantastic. I could eat a dozen!

[Feeling the Bern]

43. I know this is sarcasm, but if he ever does say it, someone need to tell the Orange Hair hat

FORTUNE COOKIES AREN'T FUCKING CHINESE!!!

[yuiyoshida]

49. True that...

They are actually an American Japanese thing...Like the California Roll.

[Feeling the Bern]

53. I own a house in Wuxi and have lived in Korea, China and Malaysia the last ten years

In China, no one knows what a fortune cookie is. Taosu 桃酥 is Chinese. Fortune cookies are bullshit.

[yuiyoshida]

57. YES, I know...

Fortune cookies were the invention of a Japanese American, but they didn't go over well until many Chinese Americans used them at their Chinatown (Zhonggou cheng) Restaurants. Then, they became popular in the US. Most people in the states, only think about them with Chinese food here, so...they think it must be a cultural thing. Its not. Its simply something that caught on here.

Kinda like General Tso's Chicken. Invented by a Taiwanese chef who came to NEW YORK and sold his idea to Restaurants here. You can't find General Tso's chicken in ASIA!!

[Feeling the Bern]

59. Or Chop Suey which was invented in Chicago and literally means "floor sweepings"

Most Americans wouldn't know real Chinese food.

Da Pan Ji
Lanzhou La Mian
Yang Rou Pao Mo
Biang Biang Mian
Shi Zi Tou
Shou Zhua Bing

These are a few of my favorite things.

[panader0]

60. lol--You've got Trump down.

I wish I knew how to speak Mandarin.

[yuiyoshida]

62. Mandarin is very difficult

especially if you intend to read it. I have problems reading Japanese, but Mandarin has ten times the amount of Kanji..or language symbols.

[Feeling the Bern]

63. that's because it's one character, one sound

I learned it but I live in China.

[yuiyoshida]

66. Yeah in Chinese you have the

tone or inflection that makes the difference. Nihongo does not do that..and there are lot of borrowed words..for example: Pan, is Spanish for bread. Its also used in Japan. There are many other borrowed
words in Japanese. It used to drive me crazy when I was learning Japanese, cause many words I would ask about were borrowed...

like Ice cream, = Aisu Kuremu!

[Feeling the Bern]

68. Korean; Kom Pu Teh = Computer. Han De Po Nuh = Handphone

Chinese has come borrowed words too:

Basi = Bus (si comes out like a suh sound)

But most Chinese if they don't have a character, they just describe it.

My favorite is computer, which is Dian nao, which literally means "electric brain"

[yuiyoshida]

70. Love that...

electric brain... works for me!

[IronLionZion]

82. Spot on! Just like his real taco bowl comment

[Fantastic Anarchist]

42. Fringe (Chelsea haircut) ...

... speculating she's a white-power skinhead.

Only speculating, I do not know for sure.

[Feeling the Bern]

46. If she did to my Chinese national wife, the cops would have needed gallons of pepper spray

and the Jaws of Life to pull me off of her. Woman or no woman, you lay a hand on my wife, I will beat the shit out of you and not stop until my hands hurt.

But since I'm 6'2" and bench 375 max, most racists in Arizona left her alone and just glared at us when we spoken Chinese on the streets of Tucson when we visited my brother and mother.

With that said. . .I cannot say this enough. Being an Arizonan, fuck Arizona!

[yuiyoshida]

52. hao!

I hope you tell them: Wěn wǒ de pìgu shǎ (Kiss my silly butt!)

[Feeling the Bern]

56. Nope. . .better would be 亲吻我的屁眼 (kiss my asshole)

[yuiyoshida]

61. They probably don't know the

difference.

My favorite comes from "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"

Wǒ huì dǎ wán shān wū dān. I will kick down Wudan Mountain!

[Rex]

47. Wow, talk about anger management issues! I guess she wants to rot away in prison.

I bet she LOVES Donald Trump.

[Eleanors38]

75. Given her record of being OUT of jail, she seems to have no fear of prison.

[Rex]

76. Good! Then she will love it there!

3 meals a day, a roof over your head, no bills.

[BlueMTexpat]

79. I hope that this woman is

arrested for GBH. At the very least.

[benld74]

80. Our 8th grade adopted daughter in a Catholic school,

was informed by some fellow students:

1) the US should nuke China
2) you should go back to China

Christian fellowship at its best

They were made to apologize only

[yuiyoshida]

83. I have been told to "go back to China"

I am not Chinese. But hey, some people haven't figured that out yet, or frankly they don't care. All they see is my face... ^.^ AND WONDER, what the fuck is she doing here???

[Revanchist]

88. I don't know if she's a Trump supporter

But going by a few of those mugshot photos I wouldn't be surprised if she was a white supremacist.

[Bettie]

107. I'm starting to think that the sun bakes some of

these people's brains.

[yuiyoshida]

108. or its something

in the drinking water!

[Skittles]

110. I would have kicked Kalie's ass if I was there

seriously, I would have