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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:16 AM Jun 2016

Can We All Just Show Some Love for Vice President Biden?

One of the smartest, most respected, and all around great guys in politics today. After watching his anti-Trump speech and reading his open letter to a rape victim, I almost fear we don't deserve him. We would all live in a better world if just a few more people in government were like Joe Biden. Here's to you sir

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Can We All Just Show Some Love for Vice President Biden? (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
He's a good politician metroins Jun 2016 #1
Always! Here's his ACS speech today. longship Jun 2016 #2
And it shouldn't have sunk tyne Jun 2016 #3
So calm, collected, and logical Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #5
He still sounds sad though Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #6
Joe MFM008 Jun 2016 #4
He got my attention when he debated Paul Ryan AllyCat Jun 2016 #7
I don't think Ryan has been the same since Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #9
I remember he quoted Shakespeare in the debate w/Ryan ("What's past is prologue") ailsagirl Jun 2016 #24
He's a very good man--but he does have one hellacious temper... First Speaker Jun 2016 #8
Up close, he has some personal oddities jberryhill Jun 2016 #12
I think it comes from losing his first wife, son, and daugther Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #13
God, to have gone through that and survived... ailsagirl Jun 2016 #25
I was hoping to vote for biden in my 08 primary gwheezie Jun 2016 #10
If only they could run again Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #11
My wish too KT2000 Jun 2016 #14
I wish that, too ailsagirl Jun 2016 #27
Cute you used the word "major". former9thward Jun 2016 #42
I did appreciate him today. Just wish he hadn't helped put Thomas on the court. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #15
Didn't he vote against him? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #18
He made the decision to shut down the hearing without calling on pnwmom Jun 2016 #22
Awwww yeah zappaman Jun 2016 #16
Don't Forget JOE...NEVER DISCOUNT JOE! A great man. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #17
He's OK, I guess.. phazed0 Jun 2016 #19
Maybe Hillary will pick him for VP! jalan48 Jun 2016 #20
That would be interesting Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #21
Is there anyone in public life more decent and with a bigger heart than Joe Biden? No Vested Interest Jun 2016 #23
I'll forever think that his strategy for Iraq was the best Jack Bone Jun 2016 #26
Love me some Joe lillypaddle Jun 2016 #28
Love! moriah Jun 2016 #29
That's me, mr. wet blanket... Javaman Jun 2016 #30
To be brutally honest... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #31
To help you visualize your dream just a little Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #36
K&R mcar Jun 2016 #32
He may be back SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #33
Would he really take a lower position? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #35
Could be SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #37
If he wanted? former9thward Jun 2016 #43
Biden's an alright guy. romanic Jun 2016 #34
Always liked him. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #38
I really l like Vice President Biden. The man had gone through some big personal losses and AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #39
Damn Right! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #40
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #41

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Always! Here's his ACS speech today.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jun 2016

Which very sadly sank like a rock here on DU when I posted it early.



Enjoy! (Or maybe not...)

tyne

(1,248 posts)
3. And it shouldn't have sunk
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jun 2016

That was one of the most moving speeches against Trump...ever. Every person in the country should watch that.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
5. So calm, collected, and logical
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jun 2016

You know when he is serious about something, we need to pay attention. That is what I saw from that speech today

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
6. He still sounds sad though
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jun 2016

Poor Joe. Such a tough life. Sounds like he is an absolutely amazing father and amazing person all around.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
9. I don't think Ryan has been the same since
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:04 AM
Jun 2016

He was once smug and full of his terrible ideas. He seems like he doesn't know if he should eat or go to bed any more. The guy is still a whimpering mess after nearly 4 years. I would never, in a million years, want to run into biden in a dark alley.

ailsagirl

(22,840 posts)
24. I remember he quoted Shakespeare in the debate w/Ryan ("What's past is prologue")
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

And I recall Ryan continually gulping water while Joe remained cool, calm, and collected-- plus he looked very amused at much of what Ryan said).

No, I sure wouldn't want to go up against Mr. Biden!!

I shall miss him, too

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
8. He's a very good man--but he does have one hellacious temper...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jun 2016

...friend of mine worked in his office for a spell. She loved him, thought the world of him--but every once in awhile, Mr Hyde Biden would come out, and everyone in the office would hide behind the desks...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Up close, he has some personal oddities
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jun 2016

It's been interesting to see what has and hasn't come across since becoming more of a national figure.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
13. I think it comes from losing his first wife, son, and daugther
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jun 2016

He said he used to walk through bad neighborhoods at night, as a senator, hoping someone would attack him so he could fight them because he was so angry after losing his family members. I sure that is still somewhat in him to this day.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
11. If only they could run again
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jun 2016

Stupid 22nd amendment. They would run again and I bet it would be Nixon vs McGovern numbers. They are definitely ready for one more go around and Trump would be a drooling mess by July.

KT2000

(20,544 posts)
14. My wish too
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jun 2016

I really do not think most citizens appreciate the fact that this president has not bellowed his way into another major war. He sought peace in the world and did not think it was no consequence to send men and women into war.

ailsagirl

(22,840 posts)
27. I wish that, too
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:51 AM
Jun 2016

But I think, for the president, he'll miss the office but find plenty of fulfillment in the years following his presidency. He can write his own ticket! I just hope he doesn't drop out of public life completely!

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
22. He made the decision to shut down the hearing without calling on
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:42 AM
Jun 2016

three other women who were waiting outside the room, prepared to tell their own stories confirming Anita's allegations.

And when he was questioning her, he often sounded like a Thomas defense lawyer.

Just think about it -- a whole panel of white male Senators, taking turns sharply questioning one black woman. It was a disgraceful scene that many women have not forgotten.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/biden-anita-hill-women-senate-clarence-thomas-213864

But that hasn't erased the memories of how Biden presided over those hearings as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, blamed for doing little to stop the attacks on Hill and opting not to call three other witnesses who would have echoed Hill's charges of sexual harassment. Biden almost apologetically gave Thomas the benefit of the doubt, critics say, and that stance helped put Thomas on the Supreme Court.

SNIP

Biden did “a disservice to me, a disservice more importantly, to the public,” Hill said in an interview last spring with The Huffington Post. Calling the other witnesses could have “helped the public to understand sexual harassment. He failed to do that.”

SNIP

Charles Ogletree, the Harvard Law School professor who represented Hill (and once had President Barack Obama as a student), said he's still mad about how Biden handled himself back then.

“I was shocked and dismayed that Joe Biden was asking questions that didn't seem appropriate and was not in her corner as a Democrat,” Ogletree said. “The point is that he's supposed to be neutral, but his questions to Anita Hill were as piercing as anyone's.”


 

phazed0

(745 posts)
19. He's OK, I guess..
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:32 AM
Jun 2016

He really threw me for a loop when he urged John McCain to run VP with Kerry in 2004.. turns out he admires the guy politically and personally. Yuck.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
21. That would be interesting
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jun 2016

But i think he wants downtime with his family. The loss of his son last year looks like it has hit him hard.

No Vested Interest

(5,157 posts)
23. Is there anyone in public life more decent and with a bigger heart than Joe Biden?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jun 2016

I haven't seen one or can't remember anyone.

Will be so sorry to see Joe leave public office.

Perhaps incoming Pres. Clinton can find an appropriate spot for him - Ambassador to the UN? or Ambassador to the Vatican?- though I believe Joe doesn't want to go too far from his family.

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
26. I'll forever think that his strategy for Iraq was the best
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:48 AM
Jun 2016

And would have worked and saved billions in money and thousands of lives

Javaman

(62,442 posts)
30. That's me, mr. wet blanket...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/joe_bidens_greatest_betrayal_the_one_senate_vote_that_makes_it_hard_to_support_a_biden_run/

The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) was passed in April, 2005 by the U.S. Senate in a 74-25 vote, including the “yea” vote of Joe Biden, and was quickly signed by President Bush.

(Hillary Clinton skipped the vote. She did vote “yea” on the unsuccessful 2001 bill, although she later claimed to regret the vote, and explained that she had traded her support in order to make sure that alimony and child support payments weren’t compromised by the new law. More on that later.)

In light of what occurred in its wake, this law is easily one of the most disgraceful aspects of the Bush and Biden legacies. The harm it did to middle-class Americans, especially during the crushing events of the recession four years later, is immeasurable. The bill made it nearly impossible for average families to file Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection, also known as “clean slate” bankruptcies intended to discharge nearly all debts, a matter of a few years before they’d need it the most. The bill instituted an all new means test to determine whether debtors with insurmountable financial hardships earned enough income to pay back all or part of their unsecured debts, specifically credit debt. If they earned too much, a clean slate bankruptcy became impossible, and they’d be forced to file Chapter 13, which would force debtors to pay back their debt over a five-year timeline, thus legalizing neo-indentured-servitude to creditors.

much more at link...

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I will never forgive him for this.
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
31. To be brutally honest...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

there are only two politicians I would love to have over for grilled steaks- Biden and Obama. Biden because he seems like such a fun guy, and Obama because of the history plus he seems fun, too. Plus, I might get a hug from Michelle

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
33. He may be back
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

In the next administration.

His dream job would be Ambassador to Ireland, but we may need him in a more substantive role. Sec of Labor?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
35. Would he really take a lower position?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jun 2016

He probably could have been president if he wanted. I would say either that or supreme court justice are his only options

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
38. Always liked him.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jun 2016

I remember, during the darkest days of bush, watching Biden on MTP thinking to myself, "why can't our president be this smart and articulate?"



AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
39. I really l like Vice President Biden. The man had gone through some big personal losses and
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jun 2016

Shows amazing courage and poise. I admire him.

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