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Trump just said Hillary will allow abortion on demand up to.... (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 OP
There are idiots who believe this Mz Pip Jun 2016 #1
"Trump is really pandering to the stupid". Hayduke Bomgarte Jun 2016 #4
He also busted out "Repeal and Replace" tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #2
Well, Republican congress is in favor of the "Repeal" part. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #13
The audience isn't even buying it. It's a bit of a bomb as speeches go. nolabear Jun 2016 #3
Oooooh - tell more leftynyc Jun 2016 #5
The Faith & Freedom conference JHB Jun 2016 #16
That was Bernies position- HRC actually Knows better that shit doesn't fly.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #6
Link, please. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #8
Look on his website, please. bettyellen Jun 2016 #9
Since you asked so nicely... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #11
Woman her family's and her doctor means no regulation..... bettyellen Jun 2016 #20
Wow. So you are comfortable... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #28
I've been comfortable all season saying women's issues are an afterthought for Sanders, yep.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #29
Since you have not replied... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #14
Chosing idiocy over intelligence Zippyzagnut Jun 2016 #7
Trump used to support this position himself. braddy Jun 2016 #10
A cesarean delivery is a birth, unless an abortion is performed at that moment, as in partial birth braddy Jun 2016 #12
No such thing as a "partial birth abortion" REP Jun 2016 #15
I'm OK using Tim Russert's term, Donald Trump used to support it. braddy Jun 2016 #17
You mean Robert Novack's Deep Throat? REP Jun 2016 #18
Whatever all that gibberish meant. braddy Jun 2016 #19
Oh okay. REP Jun 2016 #21
An authority? I never used anyone as an authority, an authority on what? I choose to use braddy Jun 2016 #24
It makes no sense to me to call the removal of a dead fetus an hedgehog Jun 2016 #22
It aborts the pregnancy - so does a C-section - so does inducing labor REP Jun 2016 #23
he's a lying mofo. his crazy-ass followers will believe every word. spanone Jun 2016 #25
He was preaching to the choir today. Those people are crazier than Trump. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #26
No one edits Trump. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #27
I guess I shouldn't complain about that. JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #30
Wait. Is that supposed to make me like Clinton less? Chan790 Jun 2016 #31
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. That was Bernies position- HRC actually Knows better that shit doesn't fly....
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jun 2016

The last months need to be regulated to allow it when considering the life and health of the mother- decided between a woman and her doctor.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
11. Since you asked so nicely...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

...here you go:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-womens-rights/

When it comes to the rights of women, we cannot go backwards. We have got to go forward.

We are not going back to the days when women had to risk their lives to end an unwanted pregnancy. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman and her doctor to make, not the government.

We are not going to allow the extreme right-wing to defund Planned Parenthood, we are going to expand it. Planned Parenthood provides vital healthcare services for millions of women, who rely on its clinics every year for affordable, quality health care services including cancer prevention, STI and HIV testing and general primary health care services. The current attempt to malign Planned Parenthood is part of a long-term smear campaign by people who want to deny women in this country the right to control their own bodies.

We are not going back to the days when women did not have full access to birth control. Incredibly, almost all of the Republicans in the Senate are in favor of giving any employer who provides health insurance, or any insurance company, the ability to deny coverage for contraception or any other kind of procedure if the employer had a “moral” objection to it. That is unacceptable.

Expand and protect the reproductive rights of women.

Sen. Sanders has consistently fought against Republican attacks on the fundamental rights of women to control their own bodies. As president, Sen. Sanders would expand, not cut, funding for Planned Parenthood, the Title X family planning program, and other initiatives that protect women’s health, access to contraception, and the availability of a safe and legal abortion.


Now please show me the part that says "Abortion on demand up to the point of birth". Thanks.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. Woman her family's and her doctor means no regulation.....
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jun 2016

I've read that here a dozen times too.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
28. Wow. So you are comfortable...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

...reading in meanings that aren't there, then using your made-up non-facts to smear Bernie. Even after your candidate won the nomination. And you probably wonder why some of us think that Hillary's supporters are sore losers.

Done with you on this thread. TTFN

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. I've been comfortable all season saying women's issues are an afterthought for Sanders, yep....
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sorry to say there were a lot of delusions he "was better on abortion" for that squib on his site.
It's obvious he never gave much thought to that position or he'd know it has zero support. zero.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
14. Since you have not replied...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jun 2016

...to my post #11, I can only assume you cannot back up your statement.

This thread had nothing to do with Bernie, and yet you could not resist the chance to throw in a nasty lie about his position on abortion, trying to tar him with the brush that Trump used to tar Hillary with. Shame on you for that.

Zippyzagnut

(77 posts)
7. Chosing idiocy over intelligence
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

seems to be rampant as of late.

If you just choose the pandering you want to hear, it's out there!

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
12. A cesarean delivery is a birth, unless an abortion is performed at that moment, as in partial birth
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jun 2016

abortion.

REP

(21,691 posts)
15. No such thing as a "partial birth abortion"
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jun 2016

If you want to be taken seriously, use the correct term: ID&E, or intact dilation and extraction, which is a procedure mostly commonly done in the second trimester or rarely, in the early third trimester on a dead or dying fetus. All ID&Es are a tiny fraction of the terminations performed each year.

REP

(21,691 posts)
21. Oh okay.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

You have just admitted you don't know diddly squat about who you're using as an authority.

Google is your friend here.

HTH, HAND.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
24. An authority? I never used anyone as an authority, an authority on what? I choose to use
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

everyday language, the language that people understand and actually use, which is why that NBC interview used the common language.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
22. It makes no sense to me to call the removal of a dead fetus an
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

abortion

FWIW - as far as I know, no one aborts a fetus in the third trimester unless something is very, very wrong. We aren't talking about someone who decided on a whim to end the pregnancy

REP

(21,691 posts)
23. It aborts the pregnancy - so does a C-section - so does inducing labor
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

Doctors usually don't use "abortion," though; termination is the usual terminology. And aspiration curettage, C-section, induced labor and ID&E all terminate a pregnancy... as does full term birth.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
31. Wait. Is that supposed to make me like Clinton less?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

Because it makes me actually like Clinton (slightly) more.

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