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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho really listens to all of this religious crap on shortwave radio. I can't imagine there's that
large an audience, and these transmitters are expensive to operate. I guess I just don't get it. Too bad most of it is lies, distortions and propaganda, and the US is on top of the heap.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Bad.
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)strength, I guess. Most of them are all about creating divisions. Anymore, religion IMO is just a code word for hatred.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Over the air radio is garbage.
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)That is what I use.
I just can't imagine people tuning into SW for religious broadcasts.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)A SW transmitter has much greater range than a similar power AM or FM transmitter. A lot of remote areas in the Carribean, Central and South America have no reception of AM/FM or TV. And IIRC the licensing is much easier for a SW transmitter.
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)limitations/regulations of FM/AM. Here is an interesting link ... https://lggagnon.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/the-religious-mess-that-is-shortwave-broadcast-radio-today/
Christ will return in a Rapture on May 21, 2011
President Obama is the AntiChrist
global warming is not happening
all peoples on earth who have not been born again into a life with Christ will burn in eternal hell-fire
America is Gods Chosen Nation
Evolution has not happened
the earth is about 6000 years old
science and reason are to be treated with great suspicion
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dumbcat
(2,120 posts)it would cost to run the 500kW transmitter described above?
I ran the calculation and came up with the same number the previous poster did.
How did you come up with something different?
a 500Kw transmitter is not neccesarily drawing 500Kw. 500Kw is the output power. There are step up transformers that step the power up, hence the name.
So basically, you are using a calculator to calculate the cost of the output power. To me, that makes absolutely no sense.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...so there's no need for 500kw.
Secondly, transformers do not "step up power"
The input power and output power of a transformer are identical (less some hysteresis loss).
A transformer can step up (or down) voltage. But he power: the product of voltage and current is the same on either side.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)500kW is very large for an HF (shortwave) broadcast transmitter. The Voice of America Greenville, NC facility had some, but they were the biggest in the world at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Broadcasting_Bureau_Greenville_Transmitting_Station
500kW - 600kW transmitters are still the largest.
And of course you are correct about the transformers.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Of course I am calculating the cost of the output power, that's what we were talking about. And the output power is less than the input power due to inefficiency in the transmitter, and you also have to pay for the extra input power to make up the losses. (That was the transmitter efficiency of 70% part.) Unless somehow you think some of the power comes for free.
Don't give up your day job to design transmitters.
(BTW, I hold an FCC First Class Radiotelephone Operator's license, and Amateur Extra Class Amateur Radio license. I designed and evaluated high power HF transmitters for many years.)
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I'm not sure anyone broadcasts with 500kW. There's only a handful of stations that broadcast with 100-250 kW, and they're govt run stations from Moscow, Bejieng, Taiwan. The private stations broadcasting religious programming are more like 10kW or less. They are not world wide stations, and generally target a region in Central America or something.
Secondly, time of day drastically affects reception. Most stations only operate an hour or two a day when the signal propagation is good. The stations that operate longer have to switch frequencies several times a day.
Really, it's much cheaper than you think. Small transmitter, a couple hours a day, is practically pennies per month. That's why it's so popular with religious broadcasters...they don't need to reach that big and audience to get enough donations to cove costs.
RKP5637
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Initech
(100,029 posts)And they all broadcast the same bullshit and the televangelist crooks that Frank Zappa used to rail against. Who has time to watch all that crap?
1939
(1,683 posts)Fortunately, my remote has a channel selector so that I only watch the ones I want to watch.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)"My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts"
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