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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:54 AM Jun 2016

Omar Mateen, Terrorist Who Attacked Orlando Gay Club, Had Been Investigated by FBI

Mateen was a ‘known quantity’ to federal law enforcement before he killed 53 people in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

Omar Mateen of Port Saint Lucie, Florida, came to the attention of federal authorities twice prior to being identified as the gunman in the Orlando nightclub mass shooting, a senior law enforcement source told The Daily Beast.

Mateen 53 people and shot more than 100 in total at the Pulse gay nightclub early Sunday morning, in the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.


The senior law enforcement source reports that Mateen became a person of interest in 2013 and again in 2014. The Federal Bureau of Investigation at one point opened an investigation into Mateen but subsequently closed the case when it produced nothing that appeared to warrant further investigation.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html
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Omar Mateen, Terrorist Who Attacked Orlando Gay Club, Had Been Investigated by FBI (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2016 OP
I will be very interested to know how he got the assault weapon. Barack_America Jun 2016 #1
Err, Obama has addressed this Station to Station Jun 2016 #2
From what I have read, he was a security guard and licensed to conceal carry. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #7
He had a state firearm license and a security guard license so he passed Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #17
Aaron Alexis, the Virginia naval yard shooter had a secret security clearance even though Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #21
Then what President Obama said holds KeepItReal Jun 2016 #3
Why didn't they charge him and prosecute? That's the question we should be asking. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #4
It's one thing for law enforcement to have a very bad feeling about someone, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #10
Well, in this country a "very bad feeling" Kang Colby Jun 2016 #14
Twice? I wonder, should that alone have made him ineligible to pass a background check... Marengo Jun 2016 #5
he was a security guard 6chars Jun 2016 #6
No background checks for security guards? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #11
with some work for federal govt 6chars Jun 2016 #13
You can be a person of interest Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #20
Watch this video for an explanation KeepItReal Jun 2016 #8
Exactly what I was thinking. DCBob Jun 2016 #9
You are essentially advocating that we do away with due process protection. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #16
Why? We already make lists based on other matters. DCBob Jun 2016 #18
We don't make lists to deny rights without due process. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #19
You may not like them but we do make lists. DCBob Jun 2016 #22
You agree with the Bush/Cheney era approach to civil liberties. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #23
President Obama retained the noflylist program. DCBob Jun 2016 #24
So... how was he able to get his hands on a weapon DESIGNED to kill a lot of humans?! uponit7771 Jun 2016 #12
He passed a "background check" and had a security guard license NightWatcher Jun 2016 #15

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
1. I will be very interested to know how he got the assault weapon.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

Surely he was not permitted to have one? Surely our gun laws are not that lax.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. From what I have read, he was a security guard and licensed to conceal carry.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jun 2016

The non-automatic version of the AR-15 is legal and conversion kits are reported to be available.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
17. He had a state firearm license and a security guard license so he passed
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

all the background tests. This makes one wonder what exactly the FBI had investigated him for.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
21. Aaron Alexis, the Virginia naval yard shooter had a secret security clearance even though
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

he had been psychiatrically diagnosed as dangerous.

Background checks are mostly worthless if the authorities don't/won't do their jobs.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. It's one thing for law enforcement to have a very bad feeling about someone,
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jun 2016

but quite another to find probable cause for an arrest, let alone proof beyond reasonable doubt for a conviction.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
14. Well, in this country a "very bad feeling"
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

does not equate to due process. Charge and prosecute people like this in conspiracy charges, let them have their day in court.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
5. Twice? I wonder, should that alone have made him ineligible to pass a background check...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

To purchase a firearm?

Abq_Sarah

(2,883 posts)
20. You can be a person of interest
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

And still pass a background check. Due process precludes stripping rights from people who haven't actually violated the law.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. Exactly what I was thinking.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

If that is not part of background check it needs to be added. There are way too many slipping through the cracks and being allowed to purchase guns.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
16. You are essentially advocating that we do away with due process protection.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jun 2016

No, thanks. This guy should have been charged and imprisoned on conspiracy charges but we can't allow LE to make extrajudicial lists outside of due process protection.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
19. We don't make lists to deny rights without due process.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

And no, I do not support Bush era "no fly lists".

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
23. You agree with the Bush/Cheney era approach to civil liberties.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

I don't.

We simply disagree, and that is OK.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. He passed a "background check" and had a security guard license
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016
https://licensing.freshfromflorida.com/access/individual.aspx

If he was being investigated by the FBI either they found something or they didn't. The truth is that until they commit a crime, there might not be grounds to detain.
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