Radical American Homophobia, Racism, and Bigotry

[bigtree]

POLITICO @politico
@realDonaldTrump: "Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism" http://politi.co/1Xhe7A7

Bradd Jaffy ?@BraddJaffy 12h12 hours ago
Gunman's father tells NBC News: son got angry when he saw 2 men kissing a couple months ago http://nbcnews.to/28uAq9y



Charles Johnson ?@Green_Footballs 8h8 hours ago
Just a few months ago, several of the GOP pres. candidates endorsed a pastor who says gays should be executed. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cruz-huckabee-and-jindal-will-join-pastor-who-wants-gays-put-death …

Media Matters ?@mmfa 11h11 hours ago
The NRA made anti-LGBT attacks during their annual meeting just weeks ago. http://mm4a.org/1OjAjHj

Houston Chronicle @HoustonChron
Texas Lt Gov. Dan Patrick deletes "reap what you sow" tweet after mass shooting at LGBT club http://www.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php …

[oberliner]

1. I think it is foolish to take this guy's words at face value

The father seems like not the most reliable of sources, to put it mildly.

[salin]

2. I don't think Dad's words (alone) were the point of the post

it was put in comparison with other public words - from those professing fundamentalist (in their own traditions) beliefs that promote violence against the LBGQT community. A veritable echo chamber validating the unstable person acting upon those words.

[oberliner]

3. His quote is pretty prominent in the post

I don't think his quotes are worth taking seriously, based on what I have read about him so far.

[bigtree]

4. you missed the point

...the words of the republican nominee for president are extremely important. These statements and ignorant and bigoted responses from elected officials, political figures, and other prominent individuals should be aggressively countered.

ANY suggestion that this wasn't a direct attack on the LGBT community shouldn't be taken seriously. This was a U.S. born citizen committing these acts, almost exclusively against members of the gay community, no matter what trumped-up cause he used to justify it.

Those are facts which transcend all of the attempts to deflect this to something happening overseas.

[oberliner]

6. I take that point

But I also don't think the shooter's father ought to be taken seriously.

[malaise]

10. It was also a direct attack on Latinos

gay and straight which is why I am finding it very hard to process.

[bigtree]

11. I just picked up on that point reading accounts this morning

...what I'd say, from what we know, despite the reports and statements which emphasize whatever connection to ISIS that might exist, this is a truly American-bred and an American-influenced act of terror.

All of the elements of violence (against ethnicity, race, sexual orientation, etc.) and hate that made up this horrific act are being promoted right now, as we read this, by conservatives at the highest levels of office and influence.

[Bluenorthwest]

5. His father has a nasty history and is offering this kiss as if it was a righteous excuse to kill.

Offering up that horrible bullshit as valid testimony is telling.

[Angel Martin]

7. when it comes to radical homophobia

all those guys are not even competitive

[bigtree]

8. this isn't a competition

...and it's high time America took responsibility for our own bigotry and violence without measuring our nation against the worst offenders around the globe and concluding that, somehow, we're better.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. America won't

They still refuse to acknowledge the atrocities of slavery, Jim Crow, and centuries of lynchings and "burnings at the stake".

[Bluenorthwest]

12. On Monday, Omar Mateen's father posted a video in which he said this as 49 graves were being dug:

"God will punish those involved in homosexuality."

This OP presents Mateen's father as a valid and reasonable person. If words like that were spoken against any other minority group, DU would instantly banish those who promoted the speakers. Who touted such speakers. But even with the recent events, LGBT are not accorded the same respect others are given.

[cali]

13. Mateen's father is a well known supporter of the Taliban