Orlando Killer visited Pulse club a dozen times before shooting, witnesses say

[BootinUp]

At least four regular customers of Pulse, the nightclub where the massacre took place, said Monday that they believe they had seen Mateen there before.

"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.

"We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times," Smith said. "He told us he had a wife and child."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

[MFM008]

1. This guy is starting to sound

sexually confused to me.

[Raster]

3. Big time sexually and religiously confused...

...the two go together OH SO FUCKING WELL... also sounds like a heaping helping of DADDY ISSUES to add to the mix.

[roamer65]

13. I agree...a nasty shitpot mix inside of that dude.

Repression across the board.

[villager]

9. Well no shit.

I mean, there's a reason psychopaths pick the targets they do.

[Mike Nelson]

2. I wonder if...

...he might have been bisexual and unable to deal with it

[annabanana]

17. not beyond the realm of possibility, to be sure...n/t

[Glorfindel]

4. Makes sense....casing the joint, getting the lay of the land

scoping things out. Seems like this guy had planned his assault very carefully.

[SoCalNative]

10. Yeah no

he wouldn't have needed that many visits for that

[BeyondGeography]

15. Also, 120 miles away from home where he wouldn't be recognized

eom

[uponit7771]

23. Not for 3 years

[JI7]

5. he went to check out the place he was going to attack

[uponit7771]

24. Not for 3 years

[lpbk2713]

6. His credit card history might prove interesting.

Not just for here but for other places as well.

[Agschmid]

11. Yup.

[ellenrr]

12. there was another club owner who said he thot he recognized Mateen..

I think I read that in NYTimes.

[Brickbat]

7. People don't shoot up places because they're confident with who they are.

They do it because they hurt. That's becoming clear here.

[SoCalNative]

8. Yeah

he wasn't just doing recon

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Yet another thread full of comments that make me sick.

nt

[brer cat]

18. +1 nt

[sibelian]

19. Shall we list the causes so far?

The NRA
The GOP not passing bills
Men
Republicans in general
mental illness

and now

closeted homosexuality.



It's the nature of the site.

[King_David]

20. That makes two of us...

[Dem2]

22. The speculation

Seems to stem from ignorance.

[IronLionZion]

28. I might take a break from DU for a bit

[Behind the Aegis]

30. Amazing isn't it?

We are supposed to believe HIS calls to the police were really just a "cover", but second hand information from people coming out of the woodwork? Well, that just "truth will out"!

Possible motive, ISIS related?: NO! NO! NO! Islamophobia! Right-wing propaganda! Trump lover!!

Possible motive, closeted gay?: That's the ticket! It was just some homo who couldn't get a grip! That makes more sense! I remember an article saying most gay bashings are closeted gay men! I remember a study! I remember my friend who told me how he beat up "homos" in HS and is now gay! We have solved it...it is a gay on gay crime...everyone move along...nothing more to see!

[Princess Turandot]

16. Orlando is 125 miles from where he lived, Fort Pierce..

which is on the east coast of Florida.

I have to assume that there are nightclubs that serve mostly LGBT folks much closer to where he lived. And terrorist aren't usually concerned about shielding their near and dear ones from trouble, by not acting near where they live. So it seems like he had some reason to go to this particular place.

[King_David]

21. You should self delete this offensive post .

[uponit7771]

25. Why? looks like a rational premise... tia

[Heeeeers Johnny]

26. It's possible that he was a self hating gay person...

I wouldn't totally dismiss it or rule it out, but the comments from 4 people seem more like 'hey, I know that guy,
or at least I think I do'.

said Monday that they believe they had seen Mateen there before.

The other thing that makes me suspicious is that according to their statements, Mateen was a drinker also...

Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

I don't know, nor have I read just how devote a Muslim he was, but his drinking habits just don't jive with his religion.

[BootinUp]

27. I will not comment on the self hating gay part, but I agree that his motivation

appears less and less a religious islamic thing and more just plain hate. To me anyways.

[woolldog]

29. And why would he be getting so drunk if he

Was just casing the joint? That doesn't make sense. Sounds like he was going there to have a good time.

[Rex]

31. Sounds like a stalker.