Where are we going as a country??

[angrychair]

Yet another mass murder. This time targeting the LGBTQ community.

On the right:
We have everyone from heads of state government to various Christian groups calling it's good and justice for "sins" against their God.

We have the teapublican candidate for POTUS tRump, saying this:

“If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time.”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_575f1802e4b0e4fe51435eb2

On the left:
We have Democrats, specifically a leading spokesman for the presumptive Democratic nominee for POTUS, calling for the surveillance and limiting of gun ownership of "Islamic element" whatever that means:

Frank said the mass shooting reinforces his belief that there should be "significant surveillance" of people identified by the FBI to have radical beliefs.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/06/former_massachusetts_rep_barne.html

The government's surveillance history is spotty at best. Why just "the Islamic element"? What about the "Christian element"? The "Jewish element"?


This fear-mongering and scapegoating on both sides is becoming disgusting and not what we, as Democrats, should be condoning or encouraging as acceptable behavior in a modern society.
Surveillance Of Muslims does nothing to end gun violence and regulate the out of control gun culture in America and how we stop another attack like this from happening again. Nothing.
This is nothing more than childish, simple-minded finger-pointing.
This type of thinking will fix nothing.

[JanMichael]

1. Down the shitter is where we appear headed.

It sucks but this country has gone to the dogs. I like real dogs just not the dogs that have taken over most of the states and nationally.

But one should always hope.

[yeoman6987]

5. I think we'll eventually be like Israel where they have attacks constantly

We may give up some weapons but bombs will be replaced like Boston. I don't see s good ending for us on the terrorism front.

[PJMcK]

6. Never liked that expression

Dogs are wonderful, amazing creatures that have a fantastic symbiotic relationship with humans dating back to pre-History. If something has "gone to the dogs," it should mean a good thing.

Let's say "gone to the cockroaches" instead!

Or your headline is even more accurate: "Down the shitter."

[uponit7771]

2. We're going forward whether the haters like it or not, we'll endure as we have endured....

... hopefully not with the toxic culture of conservatism that inflames the GOP.

[Stonepounder]

3. I lost all respect for Barney Frank today. n/t

[rurallib]

4. Sounds like we are staying on the same stupid path that got us here

[angrychair]

9. Very true

We have to be better than we have been or we have a very sad future ahead of us.

[Lizzie Poppet]

7. Towards a break-up, eventually.

I expect it in my lifetime (I'm 40). Not into individual states in most cases (maybe California...), but into regional polities, a la the former Soviet Union. And I'm okay with that...

[angrychair]

8. I could see that

I could see CA, OR, HI and WA all becoming a single region. Unfortunately, for the rest of the country, that would be a significant portion of the original country's GDP and produce.

Southern and many teapublican-led states, the true 'taker' states, would not be able to survive without being carried by the other states in the republic.

I don't think it is possible or practical but it's fun as an intellectual exercise as what that would look like.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. They're perfectly capable of spying on Americans for doing stuff like pot smoking.

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/10/the_nsa_dea_police_state_tango/

I guess that's more important.