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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:17 PM Jun 2016

Gun Control and assimilation isn't enough. We need to punish states that inspire this crap.

Terrorists have international suppliers financed by oil money from the middle east to smuggle them weapons (as has happened repeatedly in Europe, which has strict gun control laws). They also have sources of alternative media that inspire these people and find safe-harbors in Middle eastern countries, many of which pay lip service to an alliance with us. No amount of moderate Imam's extorting peace is going to change the mind of someone constantly being trickle-fed hate from servers hosted in Saudi Arabia or from "special lecturers" that come in and tell them homosexuals deserve death. Talking only about gun control doesn't solve the problem. We also need aggressive diplomatic intervention to economically punish and isolate states (like Saudi Arabia and Qatar) that continue to provide money to arm and comfort to people seeking to kill our civilians.

We need to end arms sales to these nations and find alternative sources of energy to cut of their funding, at least until we can be hundred percent sure they are no longer arming terrorists. Otherwise, nothing we do domestically will matter, because a great deal of our problems originate from rogue terrorist states like Saudi Arabia.

Why is this part of the equation constantly missing from the dialog?

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. We would have to start at home, since the U.S. sells arms to both Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt the MIC wants to see the end of that gravy train.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. I'm sure Hillary will clean up that when she is president, after all, as SOS, she ha ha ha
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

can't even write it without cracking up.

"The State Department formally approved these arms sales even as many of the deals enhanced the military power of countries ruled by authoritarian regimes whose human rights abuses had been criticized by the department. Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Qatar all donated to the Clinton Foundation and also gained State Department clearance to buy caches of American-made weapons even as the department singled them out for a range of alleged ills, from corruption to restrictions on civil liberties to violent crackdowns against political opponents."

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
6. It's insane that we allow Saudis to fund Wahhabi mosques and clerics in the US
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

If it were up to me we would:

Close all Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques in the US

Stop giving foreign Wahhabi clerics visas to come to the US. Foreign clerics from any other sect that promotes killing gays (Shiites) should also be refused visas.

This would be the minimum we should do to protect our citizens from Wahhabi 'Kill The Infidel' religion, imho. Ending arms sales to the states that promote Killing Infidels would also help protect the world from their vile religion.

Of course, as long as our government kow-tows to the Saudis and other rich oil states, no action will be taken.

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