Pope Francis Slams The United States For Its “Brazen” Gun Obsession

[L. Coyote]

[link:http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/13/pope-francis-slams-the-united-states-for-its-brazen-gun-obsession/|
Pope Francis Slams The United States For Its “Brazen” Gun Obsession]
By Ryan Denson on June 13, 2016 11:05 pm ·

Pope Francis, while appearing at the United Nation’s World Food summit, slammed the United States (and the rest of the world) over its obsession with guns after the terrorist attack in Orlando left 50 people dead and another 53 wounded. Calling the obsession “brazen,” the Pope chided world leaders for their “strange paradox” over the politics of food and international aid, but not guns:

It makes no difference where arms come from — they circulate with brazen and virtually absolute freedom in many parts of the world.

The Pope also chastised the world for numbing itself to people’s pain, saying “We are bombarded by so many images that we see pain, but do not touch it; we hear weeping, but do not comfort it; we see thirst but do not satisfy it.”

Hours after the brutal attack, the Holy See released a strongly worded condemnation of the attacks, calling his “homicidal folly” and denouncing those responsible: .............

[dlwickham]

1. but he doesn't say boo about gays being killed

[angstlessk]

5. perhaps he thinks of them as humans first?

[L. Coyote]

17. Sure had to wade thru a lot of drivel to finally see this wisdom. They are not gay, they are people

The club is not gay, etc. I'm so tired of hearing the label used to separate us humans into distinct groups.

We are all one family and that is message number one!

The One Trillion Principle

[dlwickham]

19. why should he start now

Homosexuality is addressed in Catholic teaching under two forms: homosexual orientation is considered an "objective disorder" because Catholicism views it as being "ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil", but not sinful unless acted upon.[1] Homosexual sexual activity, by contrast, is viewed as a "moral disorder"[1] and "homosexual acts" as "contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholicism

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html

[angstlessk]

20. The inquisition passed, so will the churchs' current attitudes

about women and gays

[dlwickham]

21. so we're just supposed to sit down and shut up?

sorry but no

[LeftyMom]

22. The attitude about women is two thousand years old.

Arguably older, because it's an extension of ideas that were extant at the time of Paul's letters.

So no.

[dlwickham]

31. thank you

what gets me is that the early church had women in leadership positions

there was a woman named Phoebe who was a deacon-which is a step down from full fledged priest in today's church; she's mentioned in the Bible but she's otherwise ignored

the early church was funded by women for the most part; I'm not sure if they'd be too happy being told to sit down and shut up

remember that the Bible was not a set document during this time so they wouldn't have known what Paul was saying to others

[BlueMTexpat]

30. Excellent response!

[pnwmom]

10. Why do you say that? This article says he strongly condemned the attacks. n/t

[rbrnmw]

26. exactly

[oswaldactedalone]

2. Preach on

Pope.

[cleanhippie]

3. And yet the RCC's homophobia and pedophilia obsession isnt to be worried about.

Sorry, Blank Frank, clean up your own piles of shit before worrying about someone else's.

[angstlessk]

8. So the pope has no say because the victims were gay?

I understand that the Pope et al of the Catholic religion are not gay friendly, however, they do not call for the annihilation like the radical xian community

Hell, the way the Catholic church has changed over the years...who knows when gays will be accepted?

[cleanhippie]

11. When hell freezes over, that's when.

Or until they can barely fill the pews and coffers, which is most likely.

[angstlessk]

12. WHAT????

That is no answer

[cleanhippie]

13. Sure it is. You just didn't get the one you wanted.

[LeftyMom]

23. No, they call for LGBT people to destroy themselves or burn eternally.

That's not exactly merciful and tolerant.

[Dalziel3979]

4. And what does the Dope have to say in slamming his church's brazen obsession

with little boys and women's reproductive rights?

[REP]

6. Oh, now he's concerned about LGBT lives?

Or is this just more posturing from Pope Dreamy McPhoto-Op?

Talk minus action equals shit. When he does something about the rapist priests, the anti-LGBT policies, and the misogyny in the RCC, then I'll give a fuck about what he says.

[angstlessk]

14. Being ignorant is no excuse,,,this Pope has done much action

He has done more than most Popes...sorry instant gratification has not occurred with the Catholic Church which has evolved, though slowly, over time

[REP]

15. I do not excuse Pope McPhoto-Op's ignorance at all.

What he's done is not be Joey Ratzo. He's excelled at that.

[angstlessk]

16. Like I said...being ignorant is no excuse...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/07/what-has-pope-francis-actually-accomplished-heres-a-look-at-7-of-his-most-notable-actions/

3. 'Who am I to judge?'

When: July 2013

Why: On a flight back from his visit to Brazil, Francis struck a different note on homosexuality than his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, who had once described it as an “intrinsic moral evil.” In contrast, Francis had this to say about homosexuals: “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”

And this:

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/pat-archbold/10-quotes-that-prove-the-pope-is-a-liberal

Here he condemns hatred for homosexuality

[REP]

18. I agree; there's no excuse for Pope Dreamy McPhoto-Op's ignorance. At all.

Talk minus action equals SHIT.

[LeftyMom]

24. He also says same sex marriage is satanic and gay adoption is child abuse.

You're cherry picking to make him sound like a good guy. He's not a good guy.

[mr blur]

32. What if they're gay and don't "search for the Lord"?

Or they want to get married? Or adopt children? Or use condoms? Or be treated with respect?

Blank Frank the PR Pope can say whatever he likes. He won't change anything. He doesn't want to change anything. Indeed there are those on DU who will tell you that he wouldn't be "allowed" to change anything.

Talk is cheap. Besides, he has enough important stuff on his plate, like deciding whether or not a sad excuse for a human being like Mother Teresa qualifies as a saint. (Spoiler: Yes)

[Humanist_Activist]

33. You do realize that is in the context of celibate Catholic Priests, right?

The Pope has no problem with gay people who don't have sex, but those that start families are an affront to God.

[JanMichael]

7. It is a weird obsession. I don't get the gun hoarders. And I have know several (not that well).

Mostly losers too. Oh well.

[Aristus]

9. How long before gun shops start selling Pope Francis targets?

The new ghoulish fad among gunfucks is to print paper targets of whomever they don't like. Just one more piece of evidence as to how deranged these monsters are...

[LeftyMom]

25. They've done that forever.

Well, at least since I was a kid.

[Aristus]

27. Oh.

I never saw that sort of thing before the murder of Trayvon Martin.

Some ambulatory piece of human shit began printing targets with a young man wearing a hoodie and carrying Skittles and canned iced tea.

I was sickened when I saw that.

[mwrguy]

28. Says the head of the biggest anti-gay organization in the world

[geomon666]

29. We deserve to be slammed.

Every country on the planet should be publicly shaming us about this stupid fucking gun culture that we have here.

[Humanist_Activist]

34. Well shit, I actually agree with the Pope about something, stop the presses people!

Americans weird obsession with guns is both appalling and weird to me. I really don't understand its, a lot of people have a fetishism around guns that is completely irrational.