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Animal welfare activists: Horse racing industry needs reform
By Chuck Conder and Casey Wian, CNN
updated 3:16 PM EDT, Sat June 9, 2012
Temecula, California (CNN) -- The horse's name is Nitro Active. He was bred for speed.
This great-great-grandson of the legendary Secretariat had won nearly $200,000 in prize money at tracks around Southern California. It had been a modestly successful racing career, but by December of last year it was over...
Nitro Active was breaking down. Because of injuries to his tendons and leg joints Nitro Active could barely stand, let alone race. His fate seemed clear. Like many spent and injured racehorses, Nitro Active was destined for euthanasia or a Mexican slaughterhouse supplying horse meat to restaurants in Europe and Japan. He sold at auction for $190.
For more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/09/us/racehorse-treatment/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)rec
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)And that is not good news.
"Unified Equine Missouri is now ready to try again. This time in Rockville, Mo., less than a hundred miles south of Kansas City in Bates County, the company announced Thursday.
If the plan is successful, the Rockville facility would be the first in the country to open after Congress restored funding for inspections of horse slaughter operations last year. The companys plan for Mountain Grove called for slaughtering 800 horses a day with the most of the meat being exported to Europe.
Sue Wallis, head of Unified Equine, said Thursday a former beef packing plant at the edge of Rockville is being renovated and the horse operation is on track to open by summers end and eventually supply 50 jobs.
We are excited to be bringing jobs and opportunity to rural Missouri, Wallis, a Wyoming state legislator, said in a news release. And even happier to provide a humane and viable option to the horse industry, decimated by misguided efforts to end humane horse slaughter.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/07/3647782/horse-slaughter-plant-proposed.html
MadHound
(34,179 posts)No longer will you see the sad spectacle of horses slowly dying of starvation and neglect throughout the country. Yes, they will be killed for meat, like other domesticated animals, but I would rather see them put out of their misery quickly than die a slow, torturous death of starvation and neglect.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)the standards here are far more humane.
Otherwise they're either left to die from neglect or shipped hundreds of miles south to be killed in unregulated abattoirs.
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)...and all that delicious French cuisine.
While I agree with you that animals should die humanely, forgive me if I do not share your view that this somehow "very good news". They will still be shipped hundreds of miles to get this plant in Missouri. And, I doubt that this ends or even negates much animal/horse suffering on this planet, in fact, I suspect that this will only facilitate it. One thing for sure, according to the NY Times article posted below regarding the horrors of horse racing, there will no shortage of horses for slaughter.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)who can say that those 50 jobs wouldn't have been appreciated by the people who had them?
And there is really no justification for selectively banning horse slaughter. If you want to ban all animal slaughter that would be one thing. But why are horses singled out? They are livestock, no different from cows or chickens in any fundamental way.
This was an emotional response by people who didn't understand the industry and ultimately it led to greater suffering.
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)From the articles I posted:
"Sue Wallis, head of Unified Equine, said Thursday a former beef packing plant at the edge of Rockville is being renovated and the horse operation is on track to open by summers end and eventually supply 50 jobs."
The town of Rockville, MO only as 150 souls total.
Also, "they will kill nearly 800 horses per day"
Equally ridiculous is the way you try to pin these arguments on me.
I never suggested we ban all animal slaughter or that horses be singled out OR that people who got the jobs would not be grateful. Those are all YOUR strawmen.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)/also you referenced one plant. If this were to be relegalized in the US there would be more than simply one plant.
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)Just not so ignorant of horses and horse slaughtering plants that I call it "very good news" as you do.
Sure, it will be legal everywhere. Did you read the article I posted about the one horse slaughter plant in Texas that blocked up the towns toilets with horse blood when the plant over burdened the towns septic/sewage system? Its all good though. Right?
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)I can tell you that A) less travel time and B) more stringent standards that will result from doing it in the US will lead to less suffering for the animals.
Travel is not pleasant for them, it is a stressor. Increasing it increases the stress. Now, which is closer to the US: the US, or Mexico?
Additionally mexican slaughter houses are not held to the same standard as the US.
Plus the difficulty and lower return in shipping them south means many breeders will simply let losing race horses die of disease or neglect rather than put in the extra effort for virtually no return.
That is the reality of it. People who know the industry are universally against the horse slaughter ban.
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)They claim they will slaughter 800 animals a day. Do you believe these will all be old animals that no one wants?
Do you know if "old horse meat", neglected and diseased flesh is the preferred cut in Belgium and France?
How are the horses killed in the US compared to how they kill the animals in Mexico? After all, you claim to know so much about this industry.
Do you believe at a rate of slaughtering 800 animals per day that they can sustain their policy of killing only old and unwanted animals?
How long before they accept unwanted "pets", losing race horses and old companion animals?
With the door opened for horse slaughter for food, how long do you think will it be before we start raising horses for slaughter just like cows and chickens?
Do you think we should slaughter dogs for the Asian food market?
If they kill only old and unwanted animals, are you concerned that the old animals may have been treated with drugs and antibiotics that would then be consumed by humans?
I would love to hear the expertise on these topics.
Also, great geographic swaths of land are much closer to ol' Mexico than Rockville, MO and people typically move horses around the country on a daily basis so your proximity to the slaughter house argument to reduce stress on the horse is very weak.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)1) Do you believe these will all be old animals that no one wants?
By definition they will be animals that no one wants for anything but slaughter.
2) Do you know if "old horse meat", neglected and diseased flesh is the preferred cut in Belgium and France?
A) You assume it will be "diseased" and B) you assume the sole market with be Belgium and France. So that's an argument based on two flawed assumptions.
3) How are the horses killed in the US compared to how they kill the animals in Mexico? After all, you claim to know so much about this industry.
In the US they are killed using a captive bolt to first stun the animal then they are bled out. This is all watched over by the USDA. In mexico . . . it's whatever the operator feels like and oversight is minimal.
4) Do you believe at a rate of slaughtering 800 animals per day that they can sustain their policy of killing only old and unwanted animals?
Does it matter what kind of animals they're killing? Do you likewise insist we only kill old cows for slaughter?
5)How long before they accept unwanted "pets", losing race horses and old companion animals?
Again, does it matter why they are being slaughtered? They are unwanted.
6)With the door opened for horse slaughter for food, how long do you think will it be before we start raising horses for slaughter just like cows and chickens?
Depends on the market. By asking this you seem to be expressing some disgust at the notion of raising horses for food. Can you either A) refute that and state that you see no difference between eating horse and eating any other kind of meat or B) maintain that argument and offer support as to why it's wrong to eat horse, but ok to eat cow or I suppose C) argue against eating meat entirely.
7) Do you think we should slaughter dogs for the Asian food market?
If there's a market here for it, sure. I won't partake. But I acknowledge that the reason I don't want to eat dog is entirely cultural rather than logical, others may have different beliefs and as long as they don't insist I share those beliefs I have no problem with what they choose to do. Are you opposed to others having different cultural beliefs than you do? Or are you just opposed to them being able to express those beliefs legally, rather than being forced to rely on a black market?
8)If they kill only old and unwanted animals, are you concerned that the old animals may have been treated with drugs and antibiotics that would then be consumed by humans?
That is regulated by the USDA. Same as any other kind of livestock.
Also, great geographic swaths of land are much closer to ol' Mexico than Rockville, MO and people typically move horses around the country on a daily basis so your proximity to the slaughter house argument to reduce stress on the horse is very weak.
My argument that slaughter houses within the US are going to be closer than slaughter houses out of the US is weak. Awesome. I'm so glad you made that argument, I was having kind of a dull day.
Likewise: why do people tend to work at jobs within the same city that they live when in reality jobs in other countries are most likely closer? I know if I'm looking for a job it certainly won't be within the US as everywhere in Mexico is by definition closer to where I live in the US than anywhere in the US. Because well . . . duh.
jade3000
(238 posts)This came out earlier this year:
Death and Disarray at Americas Racetracks
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/us/death-and-disarray-at-americas-racetracks.html?pagewanted=all
They found that 24 horses a week die at America's race tracks.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Someday, maybe in a couple hundred years, maybe a couple thousand years, maybe far sooner than that, we will be going back to the 19th Century.
The oil will run out, as will the copper and other metals required to replace fossil fuels with renewable energy. We will need horses, oxen, and other large animals for transportation, planting, and harvesting.
As f***ed up as it is, horse racing does offer the incentive to keep a critical species healthy and viable. As to the need or desirability of the horse slaughter plant - We anthropomorphize horses so much that it IS emotionally harder to accept the commercial slaughter of a horse than a nameless chicken. A bull in the field is usually just a bull in the field, while Maddie's Joy is a 5 year old chestnut mare who LOVES some pancake syrup with her carrots and oats.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)They all produce and rely on cruelty and misery for animals.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I wish I could. Unfortunately, I can't get over worrying about the fate of people alive 10,000 years from now, and how they are going to need these animals because most all of the machinery on earth has been cannibalized and rusted down to near nothing.
Petting zoos and personal pets aren't enough to promote the viability of these species. And simply "turning them loose" doesn't mean they suffer any less, it just means we don't have to feel responsible when their average lifespan drops by two thirds.
I'm open to other WORKABLE ideas.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)There are plenty of horses, cattle, dogs around -- stopping racing and rodeos won't affect that.
Elephants need to be protected in large sanctuaries. That is trickier, but certainly keeping them working in cruel circuses isn't the solution.