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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/british-member-of-parliament-reported-to-have-been-shot/2016/06/16/a9b988de-33c4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.htmlshenmue
(38,501 posts)DanM
(341 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Is DU limited to folks who have been here for some secret amount of time, or who have a certain number of posts? Are we limiting the Democratic Party to voters over a certain age? I'm pretty sure that people continue to join the party, and that we are a pretty welcoming lot.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Otherwise you have just agree with what everyone else says.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)People really should look at profiles before making statements like that.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)Oooh, that many, eh?
DanM
(341 posts)Response to DanM (Original post)
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DanM
(341 posts)Response to DanM (Reply #5)
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DanM
(341 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)DanM
(341 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... no one said everything would be perfect so there's nothing missed
DanM
(341 posts)And also, I can't help it if people read into my message some pro-gun (ugh!) message. I tend to think it tells me a LOT about people in how they interpret what others say. You see a pro-gun message, huh? . . .
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Posting a link without any commentary leaves your intentions open to interpretation.
DanM
(341 posts)Dalziel3979
(72 posts)safeinOhio
(32,527 posts)most likely a black powder weapon. One and done, no mass murders. If the Orlando shooter had one of those there would have been one person shot.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)actually had high cap mags and assault weapons?
Pretty sure they both got arrested and are in jail now; now facing numerous charges for doing, go figure, illegal things.
Likely those illegal items will be forfeit too.
Interesting how that works.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Handguns firing cartridge ammunition are banned, except weapons of "historical interest"; semi-automatic rifles are banned, except in .22LR calibre; semi-automatic shotguns are banned. Private individuals can own: single-shot, bolt-action, and lever-action rifles chambered for centrefire ammunition, single- or double-barrelled shotguns, and "shot pistols" (20 gauge or .410) for pest control. A firearms certificate is required for each weapon; to obtain a firearms certificate one must show good reason for having a gun (self-defence is not a reason), which includes: membership in a gun club for target shooting, hunting, game shooting, control of pests and vermin on farms. One must have separate locked storage for firearms and ammunition that conforms to a specific standard.
DanM
(341 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)Understanding is hard, isn't it?
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Hardly a "wall o' text."
muriel_volestrangler
(101,150 posts)I mean, you start a thread without making a point in your OP, and then you complain when someone does try to make a point?
This isn't Twitter. We can use more than 140 characters.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)never heard of this. is this a uk term to describe... ??... everything newer than cap and ball ?
since all handguns except antiques (?) are banned , how did an unemployed and penniless loner, who is socially isolated and has mental problems get a hold of one ?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,150 posts)Some have described the gun as old - WW1 or 2. If they're right, it could have been sitting hidden away for years (after my grandparents died, we discovered an old revolver in my grandfather's desk, probably from World War 1, and not fired for 70 years or more).
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)And "weapons of historical interest" which may include things chambered for cartridges like .455 Webley and .476 Eley (WWI-era Webley revolvers, etc).
And an eyewitness described the gun as "looking homemade" so perhaps he built it out of available parts, like a zip gun.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Is that all you got?
'Merica don't ban guns. US Lawmaker murders someone with a gun. WTF?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/05/18/former-ariz-lawmaker-alaska-shooting/84573182/
struggle4progress
(118,039 posts)Since laws against murder obviously don't work perfectly, we should legalize murder!
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)eom
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)You can have gun control to reduce the number of gun deaths but no system can do that perfectly. Welcome to DU. How do you like it so far?
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)If it was the US it would have been an AR15 and there'd be 20 bodies.
But ammosexual logic is a wonderful thing
How about we compare total gun deaths adjusted for population between the US and Uk. It isn't even close. Gun restrictions work to reduce carnage. That is provably true. And you know it. Your big gotcha doesn't hold up to logical analysis. We had political assassinations in the US before ordinary citizens could by military style weapons. But we didn't have monthly mass shootings.
"Oh your solution doesn't produce perfection therefore it's bogus" is disingenuous and illogical.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Never underestimate the human propensity for violence. It is our sad biological inheritance. Most to nearly all people despise violence, but those prone to it will hurt others.
It is up to the rest of us to do all we can to prevent such.