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babylonsister

(171,045 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:28 PM Jun 2016

Clarence Thomas may be next to leave Supreme Court

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2594317/

Clarence Thomas may be next to leave Supreme Court
By Paul Bedard (@SecretsBedard) • 6/19/16 11:40 AM


Justice Clarence Thomas, a reliable conservative vote on the Supreme Court, is mulling retirement after the presidential election, according to court watchers.

Thomas, appointed by former President George H.W. Bush and approved by the Senate after a bitter confirmation, has been considering retirement for a while and never planned to stay until he died, they said. He likes to spend summers in his RV with his wife.

His retirement would have a substantial impact on control of the court. The next president is expected to immediately replace the seat opened by the death of conservative Justice Antonin Scalia, providing a one-vote edge in the court that is currently divided 4-4.

Should Thomas leave, that slight majority would continue if Donald Trump becomes president. If it's Hillary Clinton, then she would get the chance to flip two Republican seats, giving the liberals a 6-3 majority.

And, conservatives fear, that could switch to a 7-2 majority if Republican Justice Anthony Kennedy, already a swing vote, retires. He will be 80 next year.

We recently reported that if Clinton wins the presidency, her majority liberal court could stay in power at least until 2050.
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Clarence Thomas may be next to leave Supreme Court (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2016 OP
One can hope ... vacancies on the supremes really hits home etherealtruth Jun 2016 #1
(Nothing to do with Thomas, but...) TrollBuster9090 Jun 2016 #101
:-) etherealtruth Jun 2016 #133
It will be great to see him go. Chemisse Jun 2016 #2
Unless cannabis_flower Jun 2016 #103
Good point - because that's just what we might get if Trump wins. forest444 Jun 2016 #158
Was he ever really there? TheDebbieDee Jun 2016 #3
Ha! Right?! nt babylonsister Jun 2016 #5
He would only wake up to vote like Scalia, then nod back off NightWatcher Jun 2016 #6
Excellent... 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #49
Oh, please let this happen! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #4
Yes, please, please, please SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #63
But if Hill wins, he zentrum Jun 2016 #106
Any named or reliable source for this? Who's saying he's "mulling"? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #7
Just because it's babylonsister Jun 2016 #18
Exactly. Raine1967 Jun 2016 #55
Go Go Go malaise Jun 2016 #8
he seems kind of lost without Scalia to write opinions for him 0rganism Jun 2016 #9
He's lost his mouthpiece and muse. He's actually had to speak from the bench since Scalia's demise. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #13
Thomas was inept, incompetent and unfit to ever sit on the Supreme Court. oasis Jun 2016 #56
+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2016 #72
Uh-Huh n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2016 #100
A fool like Trump appointing Supreme Court Justices is a horror too awful to contemplate. NNadir Jun 2016 #10
President Obama nominated and got appointed 2 yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #78
They had no choice for the first two. They have a tortured justification for this travesty... NNadir Jun 2016 #81
Good try. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #108
That duck call bearded guy, Sarah Palin. nt morningglory Jun 2016 #151
So when Hillary beats Trump we'll be down to 7 justices because they won't let her replace them too. TeamPooka Jun 2016 #11
The Democratic leadership doesn't care about 'liberal' justices... TheProgressive Jun 2016 #17
Damn right. A President Clinton will appoint neoconservative corporatist judges that will Gene Debs Jun 2016 #32
+1000!!! baran Jun 2016 #44
Yup! Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #58
Yeah, because Ginsburg and Breyer are sooo neoconservative. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #61
You don't suppose for a moment that Bill is the Clinton I'm referring to? Really? Gene Debs Jun 2016 #131
No, I suppost that i at least an indicator of the type of justice she would appoint, Amimnoch Jun 2016 #137
It shouldn't be considered an indicator. Chan790 Jun 2016 #140
NAFTA. CAFTA. DOMA. Prison reform. Is she or isn't she?? Amimnoch Jun 2016 #142
"Baseless assertion"? Really? Tell me then, upon what base do you reach the conclusion that Gene Debs Jun 2016 #149
No doubt, you believe your own faith-based prophecies to be righteous, full of merit and valid... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #153
Okay, let's hear what those four logical fallacies are. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #154
You're funny wysi Jun 2016 #88
+ 1,000,000,000 × 100 mrr303am Jun 2016 #119
= the level of ignorance in folks arguing it makes no difference... TomCADem Jun 2016 #124
Ignorant Comment. Ruth Bader Ginsburg Is A Corporatist Judge? TomCADem Jun 2016 #121
last time I checked, Ginsburg wasn't appointed by Hillary Clinton, genius. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #130
So.. After a year of tying everything Bill did while in office to Hillary, Amimnoch Jun 2016 #136
Exactly. Knee Jerk Comments That Ignore... TomCADem Jun 2016 #146
I have no idea what brought Bill into this. I certainly didn't bring him up. And I certainly Gene Debs Jun 2016 #148
Because Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayer, and Kegan are so conservative?? Amimnoch Jun 2016 #59
Quiz - Who Voted Against Citizens United? How Did The Clinton Appointees Vote? TomCADem Jun 2016 #123
if Hillary wins, she immediately becomes a lame duck, hence republicans have the right Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #20
(insert expletive here): _________________________. Moostache Jun 2016 #52
I prefer to keep it simple: lastlib Jun 2016 #57
Oh, that would be Mr... ReRe Jun 2016 #134
Good riddance to bad rubbish (2nd time in 24 hours I got to say that!) Triana Jun 2016 #12
Reason #1 to prevent a Trump victory Bradical79 Jun 2016 #14
I can see those concentration camps for those who oppose him and our constitution being kimbutgar Jun 2016 #46
He might as well, now that his Dr. Evil who was doing his thinking for him is gone. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #15
I doubt he'll be missed! Aerows Jun 2016 #16
But of course, we need to keep fighting within our party to be sure we depress our own vote. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #19
+a brazillion Hekate Jun 2016 #74
Ceiling Cat provides! shenmue Jun 2016 #21
Now that Scalia's not there to tell him what to say, he's lost. jalan48 Jun 2016 #22
BINGO! (nt) question everything Jun 2016 #27
Pretty please, with sugar on top? nt cyberswede Jun 2016 #23
Never should have been on it...nt joeybee12 Jun 2016 #24
Void tiptonic Jun 2016 #34
Let's not forget Ruth Bader Ginsburg, either! secondwind Jun 2016 #25
What's wrong with Ginsburg? She's one of the good guys. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #33
She is 83 brer cat Jun 2016 #37
I think what they meant was Wednesdays Jun 2016 #156
Be still, my heart. Too much to hope? (nt) question everything Jun 2016 #26
Oh please let there be a God, just for this once...Please. n/t CincyDem Jun 2016 #28
I'm sure it's not nearly as much fun with Fat Tony gone Warpy Jun 2016 #29
It's been a quarter century since we've had a qualified African American on SCOTUS Bucky Jun 2016 #30
Don't you have to work before you retire? kwassa Jun 2016 #31
It's like a low tech running away underpants Jun 2016 #35
Really........................... turbinetree Jun 2016 #36
Because he knows he'll fail all the tests, now that he can't copy the answers off Scalia's papers? LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #38
Dreams come true!!!!! Amimnoch Jun 2016 #39
He's not "conservative". He's bought and paid for. Scruffy1 Jun 2016 #40
He doesn't know what the fuck to do now that Scalia's not there for him to agree with Scootaloo Jun 2016 #41
What impact libodem Jun 2016 #42
Definitely the man bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #43
I'd wondering if Thomas' retirement reveals fall election strategy bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #92
Come on Hillary! Nominate Obama and watch the right's heads explode! Amimnoch Jun 2016 #45
If Hillary were to do this I would change my opinion of her... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #97
Too good to be true. TonyPDX Jun 2016 #47
I find it amusing that everyone is assuming she will appoint liberal justices NV Whino Jun 2016 #48
+1 shanti Jun 2016 #89
One can only hope SmittynMo Jun 2016 #50
Clarence couldn't manage without access to Scalia's opinions. Paladin Jun 2016 #51
Appears to be just speculation... demmayhem Jun 2016 #53
Yesterday would not... 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #54
Good Riddance billhicks76 Jun 2016 #60
I doubted he would stay much longer, he's like the Republicans in Congress ToxMarz Jun 2016 #62
Can't be soon enough! Moonwalk Jun 2016 #64
Not a moment too soon if Thomas retires. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #65
That's because MFM008 Jun 2016 #66
This Would Be the First Positive Thing he Has Done for Minorities in his Life Stallion Jun 2016 #67
Do it Clarence! Spend more time with your family IronLionZion Jun 2016 #68
I reced for the Thomas news. greiner3 Jun 2016 #69
For years, I wished Scalia would go away, and I didn't care how or why.. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #70
America's Dark Ages may finally be coming to an end ffr Jun 2016 #71
He is one truly fucked up person. nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #73
Who put this pubic hair on my Coke? red dog 1 Jun 2016 #75
The next POTUS could be appointing up to 4 to the Supremes... Historic NY Jun 2016 #76
I'm not certain Flatpicker Jun 2016 #77
Which is why we keep up the pressure on Hillary elljay Jun 2016 #93
Thanks, Babylonsister! You have made my day! McCamy Taylor Jun 2016 #79
Trump, or whoever the GOP tries to push into his place AllyCat Jun 2016 #80
Please, please... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #82
Get out andvote cindyperry Jun 2016 #83
Who? Jopin Klobe Jun 2016 #84
I bet he senses Drumpf and the RepubliClowns are screwed. Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #85
Dementia? nt Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #86
He's lonely wysi Jun 2016 #87
I would love to see Clarence Thomas retire Gothmog Jun 2016 #90
Can he leave by tomorrow??? PLEASE?? a kennedy Jun 2016 #91
No way. Kablooie Jun 2016 #94
Oh, please! ananda Jun 2016 #95
Assuming Hillary makes a liberal appointment. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #96
Have you heard what they say about assuming? Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #117
Please, please let this be true. blue neen Jun 2016 #98
I don't know? the way things are going; MasonDreams Jun 2016 #99
From your lips to God's ears. nt hay rick Jun 2016 #102
Too bad Hillary isn't liberal. The knock down drag out fight between Hillary rhett o rick Jun 2016 #104
Bill Clinton appointed Ginsberg and Breyer, Rick. zappaman Jun 2016 #105
Would you say that Hillary is to the right or left of Obama? rhett o rick Jun 2016 #111
That's not an answer, Rick, zappaman Jun 2016 #113
As I suspected, you agree that Hillary is to the right of Obama and look at who rhett o rick Jun 2016 #115
He also chose Sotomayer and Kagen... Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #118
Lol! zappaman Jun 2016 #129
Can't help it. Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #157
Why are you putting words in my mouth, Rick? zappaman Jun 2016 #127
Do you really think that emoticon will get under my skin? Don't you think it's a bit rhett o rick Jun 2016 #143
Do you really think making up what I said will get under my skin, Rick? zappaman Jun 2016 #145
To the left. 11th Most Liberal Senator When She Was In The Senate TomCADem Jun 2016 #125
Shhhh...don't upset Rick with facts. zappaman Jun 2016 #128
Yeah he probably doesn't like it there anymore.... 47of74 Jun 2016 #107
LOL, summers in their RV klook Jun 2016 #109
Not surprising...old married couples often die close in time griloco Jun 2016 #110
He's down to his last Post-it note from Scalia. sofa king Jun 2016 #112
I see an interesting opportunity here to appoint a person of color with a background trc Jun 2016 #114
Yes please. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #116
He won't leave until the repubs win an election. craigmatic Jun 2016 #120
Well, his brain is already dead: Scalia is no longer there to think for him. eom Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #122
Was he ever really there to begin with? Zambero Jun 2016 #126
From the late, great Bartcop's site area51 Jun 2016 #132
Now that Daddy Tony is gone, just not as much fun anymore, eh Thomas? Mr Maru Jun 2016 #135
Uncle Clarence has been worthless to the 99% mdbl Jun 2016 #138
LOL, he is floundering without Scalia's hand up his ass Skittles Jun 2016 #139
One can only hope and pray. That will be a good seat to re-fill. marble falls Jun 2016 #141
When Thomas dies they could just stuff him and prop him up in his seat Nitram Jun 2016 #144
And those want it... Javaman Jun 2016 #147
If it's health based, best wishes to him. If it's not Gormy Cuss Jun 2016 #150
Not surprising. With scalia gone it's probably not as much fun for him anymore. calimary Jun 2016 #152
Yep. His Contributions Were Something Like. . . ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #155

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. One can hope ... vacancies on the supremes really hits home
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jun 2016

....the fact that if a republican were to win in the fall we will all suffer, for generations, due to their court appointments

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
101. (Nothing to do with Thomas, but...)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jun 2016

I love your user icon.
My organic chemistry is a little rusty, so when I first saw it I thought your real name might be "Ester." But now I get it.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
158. Good point - because that's just what we might get if Trump wins.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jun 2016

Should he win (Heaven forbid), he'll owe the medieval Bible thumpers big time.

And what better way to pay them back than to sit Rafael's fat tush on a Supreme Court chair.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
106. But if Hill wins, he
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jun 2016

…...probably will hang on and not leave. I think it will go hand and hand—if a Repub wins, he'll retire but not otherwise. What's the difference to him if he spends four years dozing on the bench or on his barcalounger? Just so long as he can dozzze.

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
9. he seems kind of lost without Scalia to write opinions for him
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

apparently, expressing your own body of semi-coherent original thought on legal matters is much more difficult than concurring with someone else's half-assed opinions.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. He's lost his mouthpiece and muse. He's actually had to speak from the bench since Scalia's demise.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

Feeling a bit lonely, I expect.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
56. Thomas was inept, incompetent and unfit to ever sit on the Supreme Court.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

A despicable freeloader.

NNadir

(33,509 posts)
10. A fool like Trump appointing Supreme Court Justices is a horror too awful to contemplate.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

The racist Republicans in the Senate may rue the day that they didn't even consider Merrick Garland, given that Obama sought to be fairly moderate.

But, being racists who can't stand the idea of an African American President nominating justices, now with an openly racist nomination for the Presidency before them, the Senate Republicans are hoping that they can get get racists on the Supreme Court.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
78. President Obama nominated and got appointed 2
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jun 2016

So not sure that's necessarily accurate in this situation.

NNadir

(33,509 posts)
81. They had no choice for the first two. They have a tortured justification for this travesty...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jun 2016

...demonstrating their contempt for American History, but it is tortured, and to my mind, based on race.

John Marshall was a last minute appointment by John Adams, and he changed the court forever, and, at least until recent times, for the better, generally.

TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
11. So when Hillary beats Trump we'll be down to 7 justices because they won't let her replace them too.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016

Clearly Democrats are not allowed to do what the Constitution allows Republicans to do in office.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
17. The Democratic leadership doesn't care about 'liberal' justices...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

I think the Dem leadership prefers a conservative court... Why you ask?

We have a 'dem' president who is not even having his choice for justice have a hearing or a vote. The Dem leadership is just 'rolling over' letting the republicans have their way. It is that obvious...

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
32. Damn right. A President Clinton will appoint neoconservative corporatist judges that will
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jun 2016

sail without hinderance through the conformation process.

 

baran

(92 posts)
44. +1000!!!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

That was my first thought as well. The article seems to assume that "liberals" would be nominated.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
61. Yeah, because Ginsburg and Breyer are sooo neoconservative.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

Hate to break it to you, Gene, but we've already got 2 examples of what a Clinton SCOTUS appointee looks like on the bench, and in no version of reality are they "neoconservative".

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
137. No, I suppost that i at least an indicator of the type of justice she would appoint,
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 05:24 AM
Jun 2016

Versus a baseless assertion you've made.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
140. It shouldn't be considered an indicator.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:53 AM
Jun 2016

She's said repeatedly that she's not her husband and they disagree on many issues...that her candidacy shouldn't be considered a 3rd, long-delayed, term for Bill.

Making any suppositions on what Hillary will do based off what Bill did do...is specious, at-best. That is, unless, you don't think she has a mind of her own and the courage to use it in defiance of what her husband thinks.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
142. NAFTA. CAFTA. DOMA. Prison reform. Is she or isn't she??
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:11 AM
Jun 2016

She's been blamed for all of those throughout the entire campaign season, but judicial appointments are off limits because they don't fit the narrative??

Ya'll can't have it both ways.

It's also completely strawman that the supposition that she and her husband are aligned because she doesn't have a mind of her own. Show me a single source where she in any way shape or form disagreed with Bill on his Scotus appointments. *que the cricket music*
?itok=DTxEh_fK

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
149. "Baseless assertion"? Really? Tell me then, upon what base do you reach the conclusion that
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

Bill's supreme court picks indicate the kind of ones Hillary would make? It has no bearing on it whatsoever. I believe the baseless assertion is yours.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
153. No doubt, you believe your own faith-based prophecies to be righteous, full of merit and valid...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

No doubt, you believe your own faith-based prophecies in what will happen to be righteous, full of merit and valid... as many prophets maintain that same pretense. A sandwich board may assist your credibility and cover-up the four logical fallacies you've made in this thread.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
124. = the level of ignorance in folks arguing it makes no difference...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

...between Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump appointing a justice to fill the vacancies on the Supreme Court.

Seriously, anyone who is trying to minimize the difference, and suggest that Hillary Clinton is going to appoint right wing judges should just leave the site. The attacks on Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Clinton appointee, as being a corporatist?

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
121. Ignorant Comment. Ruth Bader Ginsburg Is A Corporatist Judge?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

Ruth Bader Ginsburg has done more for gender equality than any so-called liberal nominee that anyone could come up with. I bet you cannot come up with one individual who should be nominated for the Supreme Court who has had a better record fighting for gender equality. Folks should take a moment to think before posting material that is demonstrably false.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
136. So.. After a year of tying everything Bill did while in office to Hillary,
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 05:22 AM
Jun 2016

This is where the exception will be drawn?

How absolutely convienant.

True enough, Hillary didn't appoint them. However, that is at least an indicator of the type of justices she would appoint versus the vast greatness of your opinion with no backing or basis what so ever.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
146. Exactly. Knee Jerk Comments That Ignore...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

...that Bill Clinton's appointees have been reliably liberal, but when confronted with this, critics tie themselves into knots arguing that Hillary would still appoint corporatist judges. They should admit that their comments suggesting that Hillary Clinton would appoint a right wing corporatist judge to replace Scalia are ill informed at best.

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
148. I have no idea what brought Bill into this. I certainly didn't bring him up. And I certainly
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jun 2016

haven't spent "a year...tying everything Bill did while in office to Hillary." You clearly have me confused with someone else.

And to state that Bill's picks for justices being an indicator of what kind of justices Hillary would pick is absurd. How do you come up with that? How do you correlate the two? It sounds like you're tying what Bill did to what Hillary would do. Now who's tying what to whom?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
59. Because Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayer, and Kegan are so conservative??
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

If these people had just one more of our own on the bench instead of relying on the Kennedy Swing we'd already have:

Citizens united would be history. - 2010

Corporations would still have to take proactive actions to protect their workers for fear of litigation holding them responsible. - 2011

Invasion of privacy by drug sniffing dogs would still be prohibited - 2000

There would be severe penalties for private prisions found guilty of abuses - 2009

Fleeing, or just being deemed by a law enforcement officer as attempting to flee would not be grounds for search and seizure. - 2000

Rape victims would be able to sue their attackers - 2000

In 2000, we'd have had President Gore, instead of President Bush - 2000

Right to gun ownership would be determined colletively instead of individually (stronger gun laws like in Illinois wouldn't have been overturned) - 2008

The ACA individual mandate woud have been deemed within Constitutional allowance, and resolved much of the funding issues it now suffers - 2012

And these are just SOME of the BIG ones that the liberal wing of the court, with just one more decision could have decided..

No, Dem leadership most definitely doesn't prefer a conservative court, and certainly the Democratic appointed justices are nowhere near conservative in their decisions.



TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
123. Quiz - Who Voted Against Citizens United? How Did The Clinton Appointees Vote?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jun 2016

Any guesses?

Hint: They voted against Citizens United. So, try again.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
20. if Hillary wins, she immediately becomes a lame duck, hence republicans have the right
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jun 2016

to wait until the next election, or the next one, or the next one; whenever a republican assumes the presidency, which, I hope, never again happens.

wishful thinking, I know, but hey.....

they won't even vote on the guy who's in charge of monitoring ISIS money raising, etc. how come nobody's talking about that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-national-security-nominee-isis_us_564d0250e4b08c74b7344681

In the aftermath of the Paris terrorist attacks, Senate Democrats on Wednesday criticized Republicans for blocking national security nominees who would help fight terrorism and track Islamic State militants.

The delay on one of those nominees is particularly puzzling. Adam Szubin, who has bipartisan support, has been waiting more than 200 days to be confirmed as the Treasury Department’s under secretary for terrorism and financial crimes. The job involves tracking terrorists to prevent them from raising money on the black market and elsewhere.

Szubin’s nomination got a hearing before the Senate Banking Committee on Sept. 17, and Chairman Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) praised his past work in countering terrorist financing during his time with both Republican and Democratic administrations. “He is eminently qualified for this,” Shelby said at the time.

But Szubin’s nomination hasn’t moved since. There’s no clear reason why, beyond trying to make it difficult for President Barack Obama to fill administration posts.


somebody should be talking about this all the time. WTF are they thinking? how do the stalling ISIS enablers in the senate get away with this? again, WTF??????????


thanks, you (insert expletive here): _________________________.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
52. (insert expletive here): _________________________.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

OK....

Turtle-faced fucking waste of oxygen
Reptilian slime sucking whore
Cold blooded murderer abettor

Tool of the nefarious
Toy of the heinous

Piece of aquatic shit
Sea-weed infested mongrel

Botoxed Experiment gone Awry

I am sure others can do far better...

lastlib

(23,191 posts)
57. I prefer to keep it simple:
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

Turd-le.

Deeply insulting to reptiles, but ya gotta call it something.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
12. Good riddance to bad rubbish (2nd time in 24 hours I got to say that!)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016


That means Madam President will choose TWO USSC justices. Fine with me.
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
14. Reason #1 to prevent a Trump victory
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jun 2016

With 2-4 Trump appointies on the Supreme Court it would be pretty much over for us. Even a 1 term Trump presidency would screw us over for decades at minimum.

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
46. I can see those concentration camps for those who oppose him and our constitution being
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jun 2016

Voided. Don the con with his rubber stamp Supreme Court would finally destroy this country.

If we have another attack by a Muslim he will win the presidency for sure.

Stinky The Clown

(67,776 posts)
19. But of course, we need to keep fighting within our party to be sure we depress our own vote.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jun 2016

The court - particularly at this time - is more important than perhaps it ever has been in half a century.

But, by gosh, let's keep on fighting until that convention, kids!

tiptonic

(765 posts)
34. Void
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

What a major 'void' thomas is. Major embarrassment for the black community too. Kinda makes you wonder, who is really in charge.

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
37. She is 83
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

and has been battling cancer. It would not be surprising if she retired with a dem President to replace her.

Wednesdays

(17,331 posts)
156. I think what they meant was
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

not that Ginseng wasn't on our side, but that her health hasn't been good lately, and so will likely need to be replaced soon.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
29. I'm sure it's not nearly as much fun with Fat Tony gone
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jun 2016

Nobody tells him what to think now. I'd like to see him replaced with one of the fine black candidates out there, just to have that POV reflected on the bench as a counter to the smug superiority of Roberts..

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
36. Really...........................
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

maybe he can get a job over at his wife's (Ginni) super pac's "Ground Swell" or Swill or "Freedom Works' or better yet "True the Vote", he would fit in quite well with these groups, since he gave them carte blanche in his infamous rulings

Honk----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
39. Dreams come true!!!!!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jun 2016

Let the constitutional challenges to the second amendment intent begin!

Kick off the legal challenges to campaign finance!

Get a few precident cases against firings based on GLBT going!

File suit against the federal government over ACA being a legal requirement without a government option.

Get those lawyers working against the states that have enacted legislation for the sole purpose of curtailing Pro-Choice!

Just think all those court cases over the last few decades where the conservative loaded court legislated from the bench and get them turned around!

This has the potential to be the biggest thing in our lifetimes!

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
40. He's not "conservative". He's bought and paid for.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jun 2016

The media covers their ass with this label. He just does the bidding of his masters. The "job" his wife has pays more than he gets in salary. Unfortunately there are no ethics review for the Supremes. And I do believe that the oligarchy has the funds to dig up dirt and blackmail about anyone. Doesn't the media have the brains to figure out that these "conservatives" ideology exactly matches their benefactors? Of course we owe Biden for getting his catholic brother into the job and Hillary's hatchet man. I'm sure if he goes any nominee will be approved by the Wall Street gang that Hillary so dearly loves.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
43. Definitely the man
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

every American would like to have a conversation with.



So, Clarence, did you ever play sports? Tennis? Basketball?

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
92. I'd wondering if Thomas' retirement reveals fall election strategy
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jun 2016

We have a blocked Supreme Court nominee

Now Thomas is going to retire?

Double it down! GOP is gambling everything or trying to save itself
with Supreme Court issues

2 openings, 2 more to come in the next 4-10 years, or more openings.

Just imagine. Thomas retires. Obama makes another appointment
that goes no where?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
45. Come on Hillary! Nominate Obama and watch the right's heads explode!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

Wouldn't it be a major hoot if Hillary nominated ex-president Barak Obama to the bench?

Or, if he's not interested Michelle Obama!

Either is more qualified than other justices that have been nominated to the bench.

Oh, I grin evilly just at the thought of all the right wing talking heads exploding at just the prospect of a nomination of either!


 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
97. If Hillary were to do this I would change my opinion of her...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jun 2016

Hell I might even vote for her second term. I am confident she will not do it - so I am fairly safe and won't have to vote for her.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
47. Too good to be true.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

Why would he give up a cushy gig that imbues (pseudo) respect and (in his case, undeserved) authority?

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
50. One can only hope
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe then he can spend the rest of his life in silence. I trust this guy about as far as I can throw him

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
60. Good Riddance
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

What kind of scholarly garbage never asked questions to the solicitor general or opposing representation? And Hillary? She better not appoint Bush family allies to the bench and she better not put any of them in her administration.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
62. I doubted he would stay much longer, he's like the Republicans in Congress
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jun 2016

They bale when GOP is in the minority because "it's no fun". I wonder though if this is being floated now to try and scare Republicans into voting for Trump to protect the conservative Supreme Court.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
64. Can't be soon enough!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jun 2016

The Democrats in congress at that time should have NEVER approved him. Even if he wasn't an arch conservative, he wasn't in any way qualified for the job. Whatever they got in return for voting him in, it wasn't worth it. Not even close.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
65. Not a moment too soon if Thomas retires.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jun 2016

He's only 67 and was chosen exceptionally young for SCOTUS on the theory that he'd be there forever.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
67. This Would Be the First Positive Thing he Has Done for Minorities in his Life
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016

I'll believe it when I see it though-if Democrats win he stays

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
68. Do it Clarence! Spend more time with your family
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jun 2016

In fact, why wait? Nobody lives forever and we should enjoy each day like its our last. Do it now! Retire. You need a break after all your hard work all these years. I'm sure Trump will take care of the court.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
69. I reced for the Thomas news.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

What will suck is that it'll be Hillary's picks which will rule the direction is SCOTUS for a generation. It'll be better than the one for the last generation but we had a chance to have another (mostly) FDR one

mountain grammy

(26,605 posts)
70. For years, I wished Scalia would go away, and I didn't care how or why..
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jun 2016

and my wish finally came true. Of course, I've been wishing the same for Thomas. Scalia took a bit longer than I hoped, but whatever! Time's up, Clarence. Take your crazy wife and hit the road.

And no, I didn't specifically wish for Scalia to die, but anything to stop him. He's no longer able to wreck American's lives, so that he's gone is good enough for me.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
71. America's Dark Ages may finally be coming to an end
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

I like 7 - 2 and that should be the goal.

HRC for president!

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
75. Who put this pubic hair on my Coke?
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jun 2016

Clarence "Uncle" Thomas is a disgrace to the American judicial system!

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
76. The next POTUS could be appointing up to 4 to the Supremes...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

the why it is important to have a Democrat in the WH, the idiots over at Summer Democracy or whatever don't seem to get that. They can't play long ball or see the big picture. Most Americans don't have that luxury.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
77. I'm not certain
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jun 2016

That Clinton 2016-2017 noms would be as liberal as Clinton 90's noms are.

The money has had many intervening years to influence the Clinton Family.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
93. Which is why we keep up the pressure on Hillary
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016

if she wants her second term. She has shown many times that she will change her opinions with the direction of the wind. Well, we need a progressive tornado!

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
85. I bet he senses Drumpf and the RepubliClowns are screwed.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

Beyond that, I'm not sure if he's trying to motivate the wingnuts, or simply held his tongue until he knew we'd have another Democratic POTUS.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
96. Assuming Hillary makes a liberal appointment.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

I suspect she will not. She will appoint a neoliberal - right leaning person.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
99. I don't know? the way things are going;
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

We may have only three justices on the court at the end of Hillary's reign.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
104. Too bad Hillary isn't liberal. The knock down drag out fight between Hillary
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jun 2016

and the liberals has to prove that she isn't liberal.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
105. Bill Clinton appointed Ginsberg and Breyer, Rick.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jun 2016

Guess you don't like them?


What makes you think Hillary would appoint conservatives, Rick?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
115. As I suspected, you agree that Hillary is to the right of Obama and look at who
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jun 2016

he has nominated. Merrick Garland isn't known to be progressive. In fact the Repubicons loved him right up until Obama nominated him. Hillary has clearly shown she is to the right of Obama. I worry about who she would select. She supported the invasion of Iraq.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
118. He also chose Sotomayer and Kagen...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

Stop complaining about everything.

You worry about who Hillary would select and you should be more worried about who Trump would select.

Try working against the real enemy.

Blah... Blah... Blah... She supported the invasion of Iraq. What the hell does that have to do with a SCOTUS pick?

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
145. Do you really think making up what I said will get under my skin, Rick?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jun 2016

Don't you think it's a bit childish?

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
107. Yeah he probably doesn't like it there anymore....
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jun 2016

Especially now that his buddy Scalia has left the Supreme Court for his new job of pushing up daisies.

klook

(12,153 posts)
109. LOL, summers in their RV
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

I bet they have a hokey airbrushed spare tire cover that says The Thomas'.


Looking forward to this bastard's endless summer, far from the SCOTUS.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
112. He's down to his last Post-it note from Scalia.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jun 2016

Wants to spend more time touring the America he helped to destroy.

trc

(823 posts)
114. I see an interesting opportunity here to appoint a person of color with a background
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:43 AM
Jun 2016

in Constitutional law who has recently stated a desire to stay in the DC area after leaving his current job. How delicious would it be if Hillary nominated Obama as the next justice then had the opportunity to place a more liberal justice after him? Oh the republican screams would be loud and glorious.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
144. When Thomas dies they could just stuff him and prop him up in his seat
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

No one would notice the difference.

Javaman

(62,508 posts)
147. And those want it...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jun 2016

a one page quadruple spaced pamphlet will be available with all his comments he has uttered while he served on the court.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
150. If it's health based, best wishes to him. If it's not
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

I will for the first time ever have a reason to thank Thomas.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
152. Not surprising. With scalia gone it's probably not as much fun for him anymore.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jun 2016

Besides, he's the one who never contributed. Never talked. Never asked a question, seldom ever wrote anything. He just SAT there taking up space, but always guaranteed to vote the wrong way. Besides, scalia was such an attention whore and had such a loud mouth and such in-yer-face arrogance and pomposity that clarence never had to do anything. scalia took up all the slack. He had a really easy job with scalia making all the noise. Kept him from being called upon or from feeling obligated to do any actual work or make any actual contributions.

No loss. He won't be missed because he hasn't done anything that anyone COULD miss. He never left any mark or memorable statement or any written brief of any note. Now we can fill that seat then with somebody WE like better, and someone who will actually do some work.

ProfessorGAC

(64,955 posts)
155. Yep. His Contributions Were Something Like. . .
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

. . . "isn't that right Tony?" or "What Tony Said!" Now everyone actually expects him to defend his position, and he's got nothing.

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