‘Republicans Have Decided to Sell Weapons to ISIS’

[applegrove]

‘Republicans Have Decided to Sell Weapons to ISIS’

https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/20/republicans-have-decided-to-sell-weapons-to-isis/

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Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) told the Washington Post be that Republicans are partially culpable for attacks like the Orlando nightclub shooting because they refuse to restrict gun sales to those on the terror watch list.

Said Murphy: “We’ve got to make this clear, constant case that Republicans have decided to sell weapons to ISIS.”

He added: “ISIS has decided that the assault weapon is the new airplane, and Republicans, in refusing to close the terror gap, refusing to pass bans on assault weapons, are allowing these weapons to get in the hands of potential lone-wolf attackers. We’ve got to make this connection and make it in very stark terms.”



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[linuxman]

1. Members of ISIS are just walking around the US?

That's a crazy revelation. They arent detained or under arrest?

[applegrove]

3. Don't you think there are more than a few little ***holes who are isis curious and wandering

around with mass shooter ideation? Especially in the last 10 days?

[linuxman]

5. Maybe.

Though I'm not sure how we'd know what they're thinking. If they said it somewhere, wouldn't they be able to be brought up on conspiracy charges?

[applegrove]

6. Well if they did get investigated for some sign of jihad should they not be stopped from buying an

AR-15?

[linuxman]

8. What mechanism would be used to accomplish that?

It would also depend on what the investigation yielded, I suppose.

If it means people are going to be put on a secret list with no recourse to be removed, then I don't feel good about using such a list to deny a constitutional right.

I think if this legislation started off with an attempt to fix the terror watch/no fly list criteria in a way that would allow people to know if they are on it and appeal to get off it, then some of the bills today might have stood a chance.


I'm not ready to go down this particular rabbit hole. Mean, should suspected terrorists really have the right to vote or plead the fifth? It's a matter of national security, after all.

Fix the system of investigation and secret lists and the rest might follow.

[applegrove]

11. You dream of a better country and then you build it. If you are into building a country into a good

place.

[linuxman]

13. Sure, but you don't pu the foundation on a bed of sand.

That's what happened with these bills.

[applegrove]

15. That why you need experts in government. So they can write the right bills. Thanks

for pointing that out.

[linuxman]

16. I'm not sure how much expertise was needed

to realize 3 near identical bills which depended on trampling due process in order to be functional was a poor way to direct the energy behind this week's call for gun control.

It made about as much sense as setting off for the north pole in shorts and flip flops.

You have to start with the problem. These bills were built right on top of it.

[flamingdem]

2. Go Chris Murphy

tell them who they are, never relent.

[BootinUp]

14. +1

[Initech]

4. Fuck the NRA

[Thinkingabout]

7. Yes, sounds like they want to continue facilitating easy access to home grown terrorists.

[LonePirate]

9. Stupid question if you will indulge me

Is there a RICO charge that could be linked between the NRA and its Republican puppets in Congress? Or is simple bribery the case here?

[NightWatcher]

12. Quid pro quo, Clarice

[gratuitous]

10. Certainly easier to make that case

Than it is to say that President Obama is personally culpable for Omar Mateen's murderous rampage, as the Republicans were trying to do just 72 hours ago.

[catbyte]

17. Wow. The NRA sure earned their blood money today. I hope this bites them in the ass

come November.

[IronLionZion]

18. Republicans would be happy to discriminate against brown people in other ways

their issue with selling guns to the no-fly list is because many militia-types and hate group members and other domestic white Americans might be on the secret list. They are worried that people with a political agenda will add more people to the list just to stop them from buying guns.

They are really worried that a Dem president will put some of Trump's key supporters on the list.

[sarisataka]

19. malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

surrendering due process will not give any increase in safety and would set a dangerous precedent