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struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:47 PM Jun 2016

Malheur Defendants Want Facebook Evidence Thrown Out Of Court

by Ryan Haas OPB
June 21, 2016 9:43 a.m. | Updated: June 21, 2016 10:49 a.m. | Portland

Ammon Bundy and his followers made regular updates to their social media accounts during the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon.

And law enforcement was closely monitoring those accounts that documented their activities.

But defense attorneys for Bundy and more than 20 others awaiting trial for the occupation now argue that hundreds of thousands of pages of Facebook evidence collected by the government were done so illegally, according to court documents filed Monday.

The attorneys argue that the warrants federal officers used to collect data in Oregon — and in Nevada for a similar 2014 standoff — are “overbroad” and violate their clients’ Fourth Amendment rights ...


http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-defendants-facebook-evidence-thrown-out/

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Malheur Defendants Want Facebook Evidence Thrown Out Of Court (Original Post) struggle4progress Jun 2016 OP
True to form. (nt) enough Jun 2016 #1
Social media has an expectation of privacy? PJMcK Jun 2016 #2
LOL TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #3
LOL, the bundy fuckers are going to do some good prison time... snooper2 Jun 2016 #4
And people in Hell want ice water gratuitous Jun 2016 #5
And they want to be armed while in jail, Ilsa Jun 2016 #12
They were using FB to promote their views No expectation of privacy I bet they set the preferences Monk06 Jun 2016 #6
Bad news, fellas reflection Jun 2016 #7
What do you expect when your Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #8
they provided hours of fun on Facebook Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #9
They might win this motion, but it won't save their criminal arses. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #10
Awwwww Rex Jun 2016 #11
I thought last week they were whining because they couldn't have Facebook in jail. Vinca Jun 2016 #13

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
2. Social media has an expectation of privacy?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

Who knew?

That's some legal argument the Bundy et al. attorneys are making!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. LOL, the bundy fuckers are going to do some good prison time...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

I've watched probably over a 100 hours of their YouTube bullshit while it was all going on from Douchebag David Fry to Cliven's ignorant wife...

All evidence you stupid fucks- And your own words will land keep you in the slammer- ENJOY!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. And people in Hell want ice water
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry Bundy Bunch; no go. The information that you yourselves voluntarily posted to the internet isn't subject to Fourth Amendment protection. Nitwits. I hope Judge Brown takes this kind of pettifoggery into account when she sentences the guilty parties.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
12. And they want to be armed while in jail,
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

better internet access and more cable/satellite tv stations. They really don't understand the concept of jail.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
6. They were using FB to promote their views No expectation of privacy I bet they set the preferences
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

to those pages to Public

Then there's the Bundy fan sights publishing their interviews and press releases

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=bundy%20ranch

Motion denied

reflection

(6,286 posts)
7. Bad news, fellas
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jun 2016

the 4th amendment ain't what it used to be. And even more so when you post your idiocy on Facebook.

Morons.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. What do you expect when your
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

attorneys Munford and Philpot. These Guys are not the brightest,and do family law and real estate. Someone posed these two finished near the bottom of their J.D. Class.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. They might win this motion, but it won't save their criminal arses.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jun 2016

The government sought to

.... gather “private messages, chat history, video calling history, photos, status updates, wall postings, friend lists, list of groups and networks of which the user is a member, user identifications of friends and groups, rejected ‘Friend’ requests, pending ‘Friend’ requests, comments, information about the user’s access to and use of Facebook applications and services, history of the ‘like’ feature, etc.”

Olson acknowledges that the government could gather publicly posted information. But the attorney argues that the search of private data outlined in the warrant is so broad, it’s equivalent to an unrestricted search of a person’s home or belongings, which is prohibited by the Fourth Amendment.


Ask yourself, "Do you want the government prying into your private social media without a probable cause showing?"

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
13. I thought last week they were whining because they couldn't have Facebook in jail.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jun 2016

If you broadcast to the world, all of the watchers aren't your batshit crazy brethren. Some are cops.

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