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annabanana

(52,791 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:25 PM Jun 2016

Hillary is ALREADY perfectly positioned to "get" the independent vote since it seems

that most independents are those who are embarrassed to call themselves republican.

What she needs in a veep is someone to bring the progressives along.

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Hillary is ALREADY perfectly positioned to "get" the independent vote since it seems (Original Post) annabanana Jun 2016 OP
Are you saying she is not capable of at attracting progressives herself? Not sure a VP pick will do floriduck Jun 2016 #1
My reason for saying that is because voters vote for the presidential candidate, not the VP. floriduck Jun 2016 #2
You may want to extend your research. peace13 Jun 2016 #3
That will be difficult. HassleCat Jun 2016 #4
I'm glad you get annabanana Jun 2016 #5
This is what really irritates me. pangaia Jun 2016 #6
I think that you really do not BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #7
no no no annabanana Jun 2016 #8
Thanks for that! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #9
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
1. Are you saying she is not capable of at attracting progressives herself? Not sure a VP pick will do
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jun 2016

it.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
3. You may want to extend your research.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

Mocking people won't move Hillary's cause along. What she needs is to show her progressive side. The one she campaigned on. That will get people interested. Of course the VP selection remains important.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
4. That will be difficult.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

The general strategy of our party is for the presidential candidate to run left in the primaries, and quickly tack to the right to pick up the moderate voters in the general. That will not work quite as well this time, due to what happened in the primaries. So, you're right; Hillary needs to look for a veep who will appeal to progressives while she campaigns in the center and right. But who would be (1) progressive enough and (2) willing? And, can she refuse all the pressure to pick someone like Tim Kaine, a veep candidate who appeals to the middle and right leaning voters? It's a difficult choice, and she may just have to write off the leftties, socialists, progressives, etc. and hope enough of them come along anyway. Many of them probably will, as they have in the past.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
5. I'm glad you get
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jun 2016

what I'm talking about.

My boys are millennials, progressive, (Bernie supporters) and their friends are too. They are horrified by Trump, but not yet excited by Hillary.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. This is what really irritates me.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

Politicians saying one thing, or in some cases many things, in the primaries to convince a group of people to support them.. and then flipping around in saying what they stand for in the GE to convince another group of people to support them. Who is to know what is what.

And I am NOT directing this at Clinton, but almost every politician I have ever seen run for president.

This was why I supported Sanders in the primary. It was clear, to me at least, that if he HAD won the primary, his stances in the GE would stay the same.

I think if Clinton did NOT 'move' to the right, but embraced the 'left half' of Democrats(whatever that might mean), she would win in a landslide.

I know, that is probably considered "bad politics," but... I sure wish there were a way we could encourage.. even force??.. politicians to say what they mean and stick with it.

Naive me, eh.....

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
7. I think that you really do not
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

mean to imply that those of us who already support Hillary are not progressive?



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