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brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:14 PM Jun 2016

Don't forget it was the neocons who created the migration crisis which precipitated Brexit

The neocons in both the Republican party (all but a small handful within that party) and in the Republican wing of the Democratic party (names omitted) whose "expert" actions destroyed the ME -- and caused the overwhelming migration crisis Europe is now forced to contend with -- in the first place.

When you think "Brexit", also think "Iraq War". Think "Syria and Libya regime change".


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Don't forget it was the neocons who created the migration crisis which precipitated Brexit (Original Post) brentspeak Jun 2016 OP
True. peace13 Jun 2016 #1
Europe bears the brunt of America's blunders maxsolomon Jun 2016 #2
Same thing w/the Central American migrations to the US... Mika Jun 2016 #3
The question is whether it was intended or unintended. Downwinder Jun 2016 #4
They counted on it. nt leveymg Jun 2016 #7
Desertification of Syria's farmlands caused migration to cities, caused unrest, caused.... Hekate Jun 2016 #5
Why didn't the same climate wreck Israel and Jordan? leveymg Jun 2016 #6
It gives some ammunition to them, but the anti-migrant feeling is more about muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #8
And don't forget that Tony BLIAR lied his way into Iraq malaise Jun 2016 #9
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
1. True.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:19 PM
Jun 2016

We can never accuse them of being deep thinkers! The Iraq War and stolen elections have brought the world to a very sad place. Interesting that Tony and * drove the bus to this very location.

maxsolomon

(33,279 posts)
2. Europe bears the brunt of America's blunders
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And who was the biggest enabler? Britain.

Ironically the 2 nations most responsible for the disintegration of the Muslim world are geographically isolated. We both deserve to be having this immigration crisis, not France and Germany.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
3. Same thing w/the Central American migrations to the US...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

Neocons setting the stage for anti-immigrant election distraction that puts & keeps them in power. Of course, it requires a completely cooperative mainstream media.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
4. The question is whether it was intended or unintended.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

The fact that war and strife cause refugees is no secret. You would think that modelers at State and the Pentagon could predict the refugee crisis.

Hekate

(90,620 posts)
5. Desertification of Syria's farmlands caused migration to cities, caused unrest, caused....
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

It's worth going back and taking a hard look at climate change. Again.

The world is already experiencing waves of climate change refugees, only we ascribe purely political causes.

https://climateandsecurity.org/2012/02/29/syria-climate-change-drought-and-social-unrest/

Syria: Climate Change, Drought and Social Unrest

Syria’s current social unrest is, in the most direct sense, a reaction to a brutal and out-of-touch regime and a response to the political wave of change that began in Tunisia early last year. However, that’s not the whole story. The past few years have seen a number of significant social, economic, environmental and climatic changes in Syria that have eroded the social contract between citizen and government in the country, have strengthened the case for the opposition movement, and irreparably damaged the legitimacy of the al-Assad regime. If the international community, and future policy-makers in Syria, are to address and resolve the drivers of unrest in the country, these changes will have to be better explored and exposed.

Out of the blue?

International pundits characterized the Syrian uprising as an “out of the blue” case in the Middle East – one that they didn’t see coming. Many analysts, right up to a few days prior to the first protests, predicted that Syria under al-Assad was “immune to the Arab Spring.” However, the seeds of social unrest were right there under the surface, if one looked closely. And not only were they there, they had been reported on, but largely ignored, in a number of forms.

Water shortages, crop-failure and displacement

From 2006-2011, up to 60% of Syria’s land experienced, in the terms of one expert, “the worst long-term drought and most severe set of crop failures since agricultural civilizations began in the Fertile Crescent many millennia ago.”
>SNIP<

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. Why didn't the same climate wreck Israel and Jordan?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

Another mono-dimensional "explains all things" theory - completely ignores international political causes. Neocons and Saudis teamed up to overthrow Assad.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
8. It gives some ammunition to them, but the anti-migrant feeling is more about
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jun 2016

employed migrants from other EU countries, and maybe their families (people say they overload schools, housing and sometimes the NHS). 'Leave' used some fear of refugees from the Middle East too, but it was really about the anti-migrant feeling that has built since the 10 countries joined the EU in 2004.

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