Texas following Britain? #TEXIT

[workinclasszero]

https://www.facebook.com/texasnatmov/

[lapfog_1]

1. Sorry Texas DUers

but please oh please TEXIT.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

2. Please, no!

We will turn blue. Just have some patience!

[Chasstev365]

3. The Lone Star Republic once again?

[PJMcK]

4. I know you're joking (n/t)

[calimary]

5. Can you Text it?

[MagickMuffin]

6. Stay Classy, workinclasszero

Sorry to disappoint you but we aren't going anywhere.

[workinclasszero]

11. Bluestate America would welcome all patriotic Americans

fleeing TEXIT insanity!

We could also offer full employment building the new wall and heavily guarded gateways into the Texican Nation!

[kentauros]

36. I don't feel that the best strategy for fighting/resisting repubs is to

Do you?

[MagickMuffin]

38. Pray tell what state do you live in???

I sure it is as pure as ______________!

And laugh at us all you want, we Texas Democrats aren't going anywhere. We are here to change our state politics. It is already happening.


And as our Wisest President said, "There are no Red states or Blue states, there is only the United States of America"

[workinclasszero]

39. I know Im bad...and just kidding

Texas is turning blue I hope.

[MagickMuffin]

41. Texas bashing is tiresome

Every F'ing state in the union is f'd up. So, again tiresome bullshit!

We are working on changing our state politics.

[KansDem]

7. Just be certain you don't #TEXIT while driving....

[workinclasszero]

12. LOL

[TwilightZone]

8. Nah, most Texans laugh at the secessionists

Support for secession within the state is rarely higher than 20-25%. The Facebook pages of some of the newspapers are pretty amusing every time it comes up.

You can get 20% of people to agree on almost anything.

[Meldread]

9. I would only support a Texit under the following conditions:

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1. All individuals who wish to leave the United States because it objects to the cultural, political, and economic changes taking place must be allowed to relocate there.

2. All individuals who want to remain part of the United States must be allowed to leave.

3. Once all the right wingers and the religious right are safely in Texas, we build a wall. Don't worry. It will have a big beautiful door to make sure we can keep shipping them in there.

4. Then once we have them all in there, we see if the sands of Texas can glow in the dark.

[kentauros]

37. Um, if you do #4, what's to "take back"?

Or do you have magic nukes that revert the lands and waters back to normal after a certain period of time?

So nice to see around here people advocating massacres of 'other' people they don't like...

[Meldread]

42. Um, it is obviously taking the words of Ted Cruz...

...and applying them to Texas. He said he wanted to carpet bomb the Middle East until it glowed in the dark and turned the sand to glass. Hence the reference.

Obviously, Texas is never going to leave the United States. Attempting to do so would be treason.

[kentauros]

44. No, it's only obvious for those who are able to remember such details.

I'm happy enough knowing that his ultimate plan for the US is to turn it into a theocracy into order for me to be forever against him. I don't need to remember every asinine quote he's made for me to make that decision.

[Meldread]

45. Fun (aka horrible) times.

I was referencing this moment.

[kentauros]

46. I avoid looking at or listening to Cruz whenever I can.

Reading about him is sickening enough.

[MagickMuffin]

40. Pray tell what state do you live in???

Aren't you special wanting to bomb a whole state along with all the people in it???

So, be careful what you wish for!

[Meldread]

43. Um, it is obviously taking the words of Ted Cruz...

...and applying them to Texas. He said he wanted to carpet bomb the Middle East until it glowed in the dark and turned the sand to glass. Hence the reference.

Obviously, Texas is never going to leave the United States. Attempting to do so would be treason.

[cherokeeprogressive]

48. A post that screams out for self-deletion.

Just sayin'.

[struggle4progress]

10. They can leave the US one person at a time. We'll help them pack their bindles

[LanternWaste]

13. any state's effort to legally secede from the U.S. is absolutely pointless.

The ruling in the 1867 Supreme Court case Texas v. White makes any state effort to legally secede from the U.S. absolutely pointless.The cold, hard fact is this: Any state attempting to leave the union wouldn’t be seceding, it would be rebelling. We all know how well that went last time.

[workinclasszero]

14. Didn't the Republic of Texas have a special deal when it entered the Union?

[TwilightZone]

18. No, that's a myth.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/texas-secession-fact-and-fiction/

and

https://www.texastribune.org/tribpedia/secession-controversy/about/

cover it pretty well.

[workinclasszero]

21. Cool thanks

This from your second link is what I read about I guess:

Texas cannot actually secede from the union. The 1845 Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas omits the right to secede but affirms Texas' right to divide itself into five states if it chooses.

[TwilightZone]

22. Yeah, a lot of people, including much of the secessionist movement in TX, have intentionally

misrepresented it to mean TX can secede.

They also selectively edit some of the other docs re: secession to make them sound like it's possible.

[TransitJohn]

29. Not to secede, to break into multiple states to keep the free state/slave state ratio equal.

I wish more people would read.

[snooper2]

34. a lot of people find reading to be hard... :)

here is a good read on Texas becoming a state and issues around it-


http://www.wideopenspaces.com/public-land-texas-brief-history/

[snooper2]

33. In regards to federal lands it does, less than 1.5% of the land in Texas is federal property

Additionally, in most states in the West, extractive industries are permitted and regulated through the BLM; this is not the case in Texas, where the Railroad Commission of Texas is the agency through which companies gain access to the subsurface deposits of oil and minerals in the state.

How did this uniquely Texan condition, a wide-open western state with relatively little public-owned land, come to be? In a word: History.

snip-

The Republic attempted to entice new settlers with grant programs and relatively cheap land costs, although the uncertainty of the Republic’s future, continued wars with Native Americans, and the ever present threat of war with Mexico greatly reduced immigration.

As a result of low immigration, Texas was unable to maintain a sufficient tax base, resulting in the young Republic being saddled with crushing debt.

snip-

Texas’ wars with Native Americans and skirmishes along the Mexican border meant it owed a lot of money. The US did not want to take on that burden, however, so Texas entered the union with both its debts and lands intact, the first state since the original 13 colonies to do so.

The crushing debt would eventually be cleared as part of the compromise of 1850, which saw Texas ceding its claims over the territories in what would become New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Oklahoma in return for $10 million in bonds. However, as a part of the resolution, all of the land within the new, fixed boundary of Texas was the property of the State, rather than the federal government, a situation markedly different from other territories in the West that would eventually become states.


http://www.wideopenspaces.com/public-land-texas-brief-history/

[Yavin4]

17. Shhh. Let them go.

The Bushes, Rick Perry, the Dallas Cowboys. They can go. Just leave Willie Nelson, and we'll call it even.

[muntrv]

15. If Texas does secede, who's going to protect it from Mexico?

[workinclasszero]

23. Nobody...maybe Mexico would reclaim its sovereignty over the wayward province of Texas?

And all the US military bases and equipment would be repatriated upon succession of course.

Just get Ted Nugent out the on the front line and televise it please!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. my MIL said that the Texans should have taken over all of Mexico and made

it one state way back when.

[roamer65]

50. Not I.

In fact, I would encourage Mexico to invade it.

[Yavin4]

16. And lose the Dallas Cowboys from the NFL?

Hmmmm. Might be worth it.

[ghostsinthemachine]

47. NOOO!

Watching them suck year after year, after proclaiming "this is the Year", is the best thing about the NFL.

[Yavin4]

52. They can no longer say that they are America's Team.

Totally worth it.

[Renew Deal]

20. We should a wall and make Texas pay for it

For the humorously challenged, this is A JOKE.

[Norrin Radd]

25. As long as we can have

Bernie as President of Cascadia.

[Humanist_Activist]

26. There's no provision in the US constitution for Texas to secede, there is no Article 50. n/t

[Iggo]

27. They'd have to shoot their way out.

And they're not as well armed as they think they are.

[harun]

28. What about the #rexit? Red states leaving the union?

[blogslut]

30. ugh

oh joy, the old chestnut has a new nickname

[Buzz cook]

31. Pass a law ending Gerrymandering

And Texas will be pacified.

[SwankyXomb]

32. Then our next war for oil

will be fought close to home.

[Waldorf]

35. I think some people might be going off the deep end.

[cherokeeprogressive]

49. Boy ya had to know this post was comin', huh?