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Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:54 PM Jun 2016

It’s Official — Bernie Sanders Is Staying In The Race And Will Not Concede

Contrary to the conventional wisdom saying that Bernie Sanders would never have been able to force a contested Democratic convention, Hillary Clinton has less than 2,383 pledged delegates. Thus, Bernie Sanders has recently confirmed his desire to continue, as stated by Time:

Bernie Sanders Vows to Continue ‘Political Revolution’ in New York

But that did not stop the Vermont Senator from defiantly promising to continue the political revolution in a town hall on Thursday, giving a glimpse into his possible future role in the Democratic Party in which he campaigns for progressive candidates across the country.

Speaking with the cadence and conviction of a viable candidate in midtown Manhattan, Sanders again did not concede the nomination…and did not endorse his opponent.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/its-official-bernie-sanders-is-staying-in-the-race_us_576cf7a3e4b0fa01a13fd382

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It’s Official — Bernie Sanders Is Staying In The Race And Will Not Concede (Original Post) Pharaoh Jun 2016 OP
is it Monday yet? or will our posts keep disappearing nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
Bait not taken! Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #2
HA Goodman is lying. What a shock. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #3
Yes, that's news to me... prolly just wishful thinking on author's part. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #31
You must be a poet? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #37
Another Possibility Night Watchman Jun 2016 #39
This AGAIN?!? bravenak Jun 2016 #4
Did HA Goodman spin this? Rose Siding Jun 2016 #61
Who? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #5
Told ya RobertEarl Jun 2016 #6
Whaaaa ?!! Pluvious Jun 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #7
HA HA Goodman on suicide watch NuclearDem Jun 2016 #8
,,, sheshe2 Jun 2016 #12
Didnt Sanders say today MFM008 Jun 2016 #9
He said both things today. He will vote for Hillary and he is taking his delegates to the convention merrily Jun 2016 #10
And, you must have read or heard what else he said, so you know the context. But they leave it out. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #13
A safe assumption, unless you know my habits. merrily Jun 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #11
You mean, he did not concede today by saying, "I concede" because he already conceded. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #14
this is just a discussion group and it really doesn't affect the facts or the reality of what is hap Pharaoh Jun 2016 #16
Shhhh. Some posters post (and alert and jury) as though not only the fate of U.S. elections, merrily Jun 2016 #19
Good point. Well, we should have a special forum for all DU members under ... L. Coyote Jun 2016 #21
Doesn't one have to be older than six to register for DU? I think it's thirteen. merrily Jun 2016 #23
wha haaaaaaaaaa! Pharaoh Jun 2016 #34
What the hell difference does it make what he says or does? upaloopa Jun 2016 #15
Actually, he is is not still playing the primary and has not been for quite some time. merrily Jun 2016 #20
The platform is an empty document upaloopa Jun 2016 #24
Wheee. Why didn't you tell me we were playing "Who Can Change the Subject Faster?" merrily Jun 2016 #26
If the platform doesn't matter, why are some people so determined not to rhett o rick Jun 2016 #29
I think I see your problem, my friend. merrily Jun 2016 #33
If he decides to overthrow the Republican Congress, it makes a hell of a difference. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #43
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #52
Do you know why you can trust Bernie? demwing Jun 2016 #17
He says exactly what he's going to do.. murielm99 Jun 2016 #22
Life has variables. For example, if Hillary drops out of the race , he may not vote for her. merrily Jun 2016 #25
most caustic posters have realized we are starting to use the alert button swhisper1 Jun 2016 #28
Thanks. Most posters have realized that a specific TOS prohibits undermining Sanders merrily Jun 2016 #30
Either he will or won't vote for her. murielm99 Jun 2016 #32
Nope. His story did not change. Common sense says "barring something extraordinary merrily Jun 2016 #38
I'm pleased that we've quickly changed the subject to philosophy. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #45
Wow. What a great piece of news… I was just heading off to bed… Thanks for posting. midnight Jun 2016 #27
Why are you posting a screed by a supporter of Rand Paul 2016? pnwmom Jun 2016 #35
Do the TOS say we can post only articles by people who supported Democrats in 2016? merrily Jun 2016 #40
H.A. Goodman has also been wrong about everything. He is a hack, and the only reason for still_one Jun 2016 #44
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #36
Who's a phony? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #41
To: Post Removed SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #42
And Marco Rubio? Zambero Jun 2016 #46
It is official, Hillary Clinton is the presumptive nominee. H.A. Goodman needs to deal with that still_one Jun 2016 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #53
Same old, same old. PdxSean Jun 2016 #48
He must be, Pharaoh ReRe Jun 2016 #49
yup you're right Pharaoh Jun 2016 #62
In a related news story ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #50
^^ This ^^ nt lamp_shade Jun 2016 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #54
HA HA HA HA HA HA Goodman cosmicone Jun 2016 #55
Holy crap! ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #57
... zappaman Jun 2016 #56
Someone should call Bernie and let him know Pharaoh put him back in the race! L. Coyote Jun 2016 #58
Bernexit enid602 Jun 2016 #60
I wonder if Brexit had anything to do with it. As I read numerous articles libdem4life Jun 2016 #63
^^This^^ Pharaoh Jun 2016 #64
. Dem2 Jun 2016 #65

TwilightZone

(25,457 posts)
3. HA Goodman is lying. What a shock.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

No one in any official capacity has said that Sanders will not concede before the convention.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
37. You must be a poet?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jun 2016

There are many things that could happen, there could be a brokered convention, a contested convention, or as it is sometimes referred to an open convention.

"If we open a quarrel between the present and the past, we shall be in danger of losing the future." - Winston Churchill

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
61. Did HA Goodman spin this?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

Don't wanna click because it sounds so much like something he'd write. Seems so pre-new rules, don't it?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
6. Told ya
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

All the way to the convention. He told us that before. It was true then, it's true now. That's how Bernie rolls.

Response to Pharaoh (Original post)

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
9. Didnt Sanders say today
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

he would vote for HRC?
Sounds pretty definative to me.
Cant wait to see them campaign together.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. He said both things today. He will vote for Hillary and he is taking his delegates to the convention
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jun 2016

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. And, you must have read or heard what else he said, so you know the context. But they leave it out.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jun 2016

Because those two things are not mutually exclusive. What seems to be happening is people are interpreting what was said to match their own wishes instead of listening to Bernie.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. A safe assumption, unless you know my habits.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jun 2016

Often, I have the TV on when I am doing six other things, some of which require that I leave the room in which the TV is on. So, I often hear a snippet without hearing what came before or after. This I heard on Morning Joe, pretty much in isolation. Sorry!

Response to Pharaoh (Original post)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
14. You mean, he did not concede today by saying, "I concede" because he already conceded.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:39 PM
Jun 2016

What is missing here is posting what Bernie actually said. What we have presented twists the truth.

But, so what, this is just a discussion group and it really doesn't affect the facts or the reality of what is happening with the process.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
16. this is just a discussion group and it really doesn't affect the facts or the reality of what is hap
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

yup!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Shhhh. Some posters post (and alert and jury) as though not only the fate of U.S. elections,
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

but the very existence of the planet depends on the content of every DU post. You should be very cautious about bursting that bubble.

I still haven't forgiven my cousin Johnnie (six years older) for telling me the Santa who had been handing me a gift every Christmas Eve, described by me as "the real Santa," was actually our mutual Uncle Nick (his real name).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. Good point. Well, we should have a special forum for all DU members under ...
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

six who still believe in Saint Nick, so their delusions will be safe. (metaphors fully intended)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. Doesn't one have to be older than six to register for DU? I think it's thirteen.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jun 2016

Of course, no one who is eleven and wants to register anyway would click falsely, so I am 100% confident that everyone who registered is the required age.

See, cousin Johnnie convinced me Uncle Nick was Santa, but John could not kill my naivete.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
15. What the hell difference does it make what he says or does?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jun 2016

The world turns toward the general while Bernie is still playing primary.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Actually, he is is not still playing the primary and has not been for quite some time.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jun 2016

He has been, and is, trying to impact positions on issues going forward--and not only Hillary's positions.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
24. The platform is an empty document
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jun 2016

The power is in the three branches of goverment
Bernie will be a leader in the Senate
Help him by giving us a progressive goverment

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. If the platform doesn't matter, why are some people so determined not to
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016

reflect progressivism in the document?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. I think I see your problem, my friend.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:34 AM - Edit history (1)

You want to play the game of discussion, based on things like internal consistency. The game, however, apparently seems to be to see how many times and ways you can zing Sanders and/or his supporters at every opportunity.

It's not a game I am especially interested in playing, but "I know it when I see it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

Besides all that, the platform is not the be all and end all of the future, just as the primary was not, just as the election of 2008 was not, etc.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
43. If he decides to overthrow the Republican Congress, it makes a hell of a difference.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jun 2016

This from DUer of old and Ohio 2004 researcher, Joe Knapp:

55 districts to flip in a Democratic wave election
Saturday Apr 30, 2016

But, ssshhhhee, don't tell the Rs yet that they are about to become historical footnotes in a wave of positive change.
Well, maybe tell some of them and mention how they are going to enjoy it more than they could ever have imagined.

Response to upaloopa (Reply #15)

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
17. Do you know why you can trust Bernie?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jun 2016

Because he's trustworthy.

Hse says exactly what he's going to do, and he does exactly what he said.

Simplicity.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. Life has variables. For example, if Hillary drops out of the race , he may not vote for her.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jun 2016

It's unlikely that she will drop out. Hence, "in all likelihood," Sanders will vote for her.

Jaysus. Give it a rest.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
28. most caustic posters have realized we are starting to use the alert button
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

it is a little more pleasent in here

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. Thanks. Most posters have realized that a specific TOS prohibits undermining Sanders
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jun 2016

at every opportunity for little to no apparent reason, as well as making DU unpleasant for many DUers.

Hence, I posted "Give it a rest" without a trace of sarcasm.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
32. Either he will or won't vote for her.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016

That was a simple question. He changed his story. YOU give it a rest.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. Nope. His story did not change. Common sense says "barring something extraordinary
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jun 2016

happening between now and then" is implied into almost every absolute statement about the future. Whether or not it's stated, reality happens and most people realize that.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
45. I'm pleased that we've quickly changed the subject to philosophy.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jun 2016


Let's all spend a moment researching what Bernie actually said.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
35. Why are you posting a screed by a supporter of Rand Paul 2016?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jun 2016

He's a libertarian -- one of the many who are trying to peel off Democrats.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. Do the TOS say we can post only articles by people who supported Democrats in 2016?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

I don't know that supporting a candidate 2016 ho has zero chance of winning 2016 means much anyway.

BTW, H.A. Goodman did write an article explaining his 2016 stance. Whether one can buy his explanation or not, one at least ought to know what it was.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/im-a-liberal-democrat-im_b_6169542.html

still_one

(92,125 posts)
44. H.A. Goodman has also been wrong about everything. He is a hack, and the only reason for
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:42 AM
Jun 2016

this OP is flame bait



Response to Pharaoh (Original post)

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
41. Who's a phony?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

I think the most extraordinary part of this is the part where you are humbly bragging about marching in the crowds behind John Lewis and MLK, going to jail, and dodging the Klan in Mississippi to help black folks register to vote.

Can we do some humble bragging, "I'm so famous and beautiful that I'm actually jealous of myself."

What kind of kinky shit is this anyway? Do you enjoy being the hero of your own comic strip? Da da da, that's all folks!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
46. And Marco Rubio?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:45 AM
Jun 2016

He dropped out of the presidential race. And then dropped out of the Senate race. And now he has just dropped back into it. Will he go full circle and re-enter the GOP presidential fray, challenging Trump at the convention? A silly scenario indeed. But so are Bernie's antics at this stage. He vows to work to defeat Trump. Sounds good. Supporting the nominee would be a good start.

Response to still_one (Reply #47)

PdxSean

(574 posts)
48. Same old, same old.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jun 2016

It appears that people are still underestimating Trump, the haters that support him, and the media's willingness to continue giving him millions of dollars in free advertising cloaked as "news."

Every time a Clinton supporter chimes into a "Bernie" thread to throw stones and cold water, and every time a Sanders supporter chimes into a "Hillary" thread to throw stones and cold water, Trump gets that much closer to the Presidency. If you're that in love with your particular candidate you should be able to support him/her without taking a giant dump in every thread that supports the other.

I'm gonna go get some more ice cream.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
49. He must be, Pharaoh
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:18 AM
Jun 2016

... cause the pundits are after him hot and heavy again. You know, as I remember it, Bernie changed his party affiliation to "Democrat" when he decided to run. When and if he goes back to the Senate, he's going to be a Democrat, NOT an Independent. Am I right about that?

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
62. yup you're right
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jun 2016

Problem is , he sounds like a Democrat and she sounds like a Republican. Hence the huge support by the left wing.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
50. In a related news story ...
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jun 2016

... it is now OFFICIAL that nobody cares whether Bernie is "staying in a race" that's already over.

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #50)

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
55. HA HA HA HA HA HA Goodman
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That guy (Goodman) suffers from one or more of the following conditions

1. Too many drugs
2. Not enough drugs
3. Not enough brains
4. Not enough touch with reality
5. Not enough attention

I think the best spot for him is the unemployment line or a daily labor pool in front of a home improvement store.

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
57. Holy crap!
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

I was mostly ignoring this, because I don't care much until I saw who it was by. Hilarious!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
58. Someone should call Bernie and let him know Pharaoh put him back in the race!
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

He so busy the continuing political revolution that he might not have noticed this post on DU.

enid602

(8,612 posts)
60. Bernexit
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

You see, the Bernexit is like a messy divorce, but much more complicated. It will take years to feel the full spectrum of its ramifications.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
63. I wonder if Brexit had anything to do with it. As I read numerous articles
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

from different standpoints, one thing stands out ... it's the Haves and the Have Nots. Or Union vs. Management. Or Mega donors vs. $47 donors.

It's happening in other European countries...either the Far Left or the Far Right. As one commentator said...the Middle (middle class) is not holding.

The hot issues are things like immigration, or free education or LGBT issues...social issues. But at the end of the day, it's who ultimately holds the money/power. The rest is just to keep the Peasants battling each other.

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