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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:31 PM Jun 2016

EU, Eurozone, ECB, Schengen: a quick primer

Not to be pedantic, but this seems needful:

The European Union (EU) is a customs and trade union that allows people in any EU country to reside and work in any other. It also allows (mostly) free trade in goods among member countries.

The Eurozone is a group of countries using a common currency, the Euro. That currency's monetary policy is set by the European Central Bank (ECB). This is the institution that fucked Greece, and the UK is not a member of it. Most of the Eurozone members are EU members (but not all) and about two-thirds of the EU members are Eurozone members.

The Schengen Area is a visa agreement among several countries. The UK is also not in this. Entry into a Schengen country allows you visa-free entry into any other Schengen country. The UK and Ireland are not in Schengen (they have a "British Isles Only" version of it called the CTA). Switzerland and Norway are in Schengen, but are not in the EU (or the Eurozone).

The EU doesn't do anything about budgets or austerity or monetary policy. If that's your complaint you're charging the wrong windmill; that's the ECB, which is not an EU organ. The EU sets trade, labor, safety, etc. regulations.

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EU, Eurozone, ECB, Schengen: a quick primer (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2016 OP
he will work for half the pay you get. take a pay cut or lose your job. that's the EU nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
The ECB SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #2
When the British joined in 1973, it was a simple trade zone. roamer65 Jun 2016 #3

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
2. The ECB
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:05 PM
Jun 2016

is one of the institutions of the EU. To believe that one has no influence on the other is rather naïve, IMO.

The EU has the power to pass laws that member nations must abide by and enforce, even if in conflict with their own laws. It's much more than simply a "customs and trade union".

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
3. When the British joined in 1973, it was a simple trade zone.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jun 2016

Since then it has become more of a political union, with Berlin in the driver's seat. The British don't like laws being dictated from a German dominated institution. I don't blame them on that issue.

Associate member status is better for Britain and sounds like the Germans are ready to offer it.

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