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Raven

(13,889 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:08 AM Jun 2012

Why the right hates teachers, firefighters and cops.

Teachers are smarter, firefighters are braver and stronger and cops are authority figures.

I've mentioned my encounters with folks on the right before on DU...one said of firefighters "It's God's will, some houses will burn." And of cops "I get my public safety from the barrel of a gun."

Many of these folks home school their kids because they think they are better teachers and they can control what their kids learn.

So, there you have it in a nutshell: mistrust of learning, distrust of authority and jealousy of those who risk their lives for others.

Not a pretty picture.

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Why the right hates teachers, firefighters and cops. (Original Post) Raven Jun 2012 OP
They are all authority figures proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #1
What they don't respect is the source of that authority in a democracy..the people. Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #6
What they don't GET is that, for some of us, privately funded authority figures have NO authority. Occulus Jun 2012 #24
As for me..... daleanime Jun 2012 #17
Basic respect shouldn't be earned. Everyone deserves respect. Sirveri Jun 2012 #29
Except when it's THEIR house that's on fire. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #2
funnily enuff, firefighters were worshipped after 9-11-01 KG Jun 2012 #3
I suspect there was a lot of lip service in that respect. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2012 #16
It is the last frontier of potential privatized services. Ed Suspicious Jun 2012 #4
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. corkhead Jun 2012 #5
that's what I think, too NJCher Jun 2012 #7
Yes. The guy who I quoted in this post Raven Jun 2012 #9
along with Social Security Enrique Jun 2012 #10
I don't know about the profit area as much as "Why should I pay for something for that lowlife" LiberalArkie Jun 2012 #19
I think you're confusing the organ grinders with the monkeys here nxylas Jun 2012 #37
K&R SunSeeker Jun 2012 #8
I think that these jobs generally being unionized is a major factor NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #11
I haven't seen anyone take note polmaven Jun 2012 #12
they are working people that still have status in our society Enrique Jun 2012 #13
The right doesn't want an educated public AndyA Jun 2012 #14
In the past, I've read that home schooled kids have been known to Rozlee Jun 2012 #30
It's just a "rile-up-the-base" election year charade Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #15
They prove the necessity of good government The Blue Flower Jun 2012 #18
The right hates unions, is what it hates. bemildred Jun 2012 #20
The right loves cops. geardaddy Jun 2012 #21
Not the right wingers I know. Maybe Raven Jun 2012 #23
Yeah, maybe. geardaddy Jun 2012 #28
Reply to "Yeah, maybe" shieldsdb Jun 2012 #38
Nope, try again. geardaddy Jun 2012 #40
The right has created straw men ladym55 Jun 2012 #22
These are authority figures drawn from the ranks of the 99% ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2012 #25
Can't wait until ... IggleDoer Jun 2012 #26
She'll have her private fire department handle that. Zalatix Jun 2012 #31
It's part of the war on the public sector. nineteen50 Jun 2012 #27
Also they are working people doing those jobs and they are enforced to do so without discrimination. freshwest Jun 2012 #32
They seem angry at anyone who does better quaker bill Jun 2012 #33
They really only hate them now that their retirement and benefits have been squandered by nanabugg Jun 2012 #34
Hear in Wisconsin, under the divide and conquer strategy, they still like cops.. midnight Jun 2012 #35
That's just it. They love the cops because they protect them from all those geardaddy Jun 2012 #41
The feeling is mutual, I'm sure! Generic Other Jun 2012 #36
Do they even know what cops do? Courtesy Flush Jun 2012 #39

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
1. They are all authority figures
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:14 AM
Jun 2012

Some people never grow up and learn to respect authority figures. Even here on DU, you can see it nearly every day.

I'm not saying that respect shouldn't be earned. But the vast majority of teachers, firefighters and cops do earn that respect.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. What they don't respect is the source of that authority in a democracy..the people.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jun 2012

They'd love authority figures who were privately funded.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
29. Basic respect shouldn't be earned. Everyone deserves respect.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012

I'd also have a lot less trouble 'respecting authority' if I saw a lot less abuse of authority. There is a big difference between respect for the person, and respect for the uniform.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
2. Except when it's THEIR house that's on fire.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:15 AM
Jun 2012

Then the fire department can't get there fast enough or put out the fire soon enough. Or if their car gets stolen, where are the cops? Why didn't they prevent the theft, and why haven't they caught the perp yet?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
4. It is the last frontier of potential privatized services.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jun 2012

Profit opportunity for a few of their rich and connected Friends.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
7. that's what I think, too
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jun 2012

It's more this than anything else. They think government is just another fund to plunder, so that is why they like charter schools and the privatizing of all public services.


Cher


Raven

(13,889 posts)
9. Yes. The guy who I quoted in this post
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jun 2012

has a construction and paving company. He plows for the state (!) and has advocated getting rid of the local public works department since he can plow for the town for a big fat fee. He hates government but will be the first one to suck off its tits.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
10. along with Social Security
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jun 2012

I have a hard time hearing what the RWers say about education, Social Security, etc because they are salivating so much.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
19. I don't know about the profit area as much as "Why should I pay for something for that lowlife"
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:25 AM
Jun 2012

They hate people "getting something for nothing"

The Lucky Ducky cartoon strip is exactly correct.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
37. I think you're confusing the organ grinders with the monkeys here
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jun 2012

The monkeys love authority figures who tell them what to think: Rush, Fox Noise etc. They hate cops and firefighters because they're told to.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
11. I think that these jobs generally being unionized is a major factor
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jun 2012

GOP depends on keeping working people divided rather than united.

Without that they are done.

Don

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
12. I haven't seen anyone take note
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:03 PM - Edit history (1)

of the wording RMoney used when he was saying we don't need more fireMEN, policeMEN and teachers!

Probably noted somewhere here, but I have not seen it. Apparently there are no female firefighters or police officers.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. they are working people that still have status in our society
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

they want to reduce them along with everyone else to insecure wage slaves. The only people that they think should have any status are rich people.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
14. The right doesn't want an educated public
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

They want to control what their children and other people's children are taught.

Can't have any facts that aren't approved, and they don't want their children to question their beliefs.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
30. In the past, I've read that home schooled kids have been known to
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jun 2012

out perform public school kids although I read some guy in some blog rant (so take it with a grain of salt) talking about how statistics on this were skewered because fewer home schooled kids went on to college. I have no idea about this because I'll be the first to admit that I've never really researched the subject, so I'll defer to my DU compatriots who have. But, in the last decade or two, I do know that I've read that the number of people home schooling their kids has increased greatly. I know part of the reason is religious conservatives and other right-wingers not wanting their kids exposed to subjects like multiculturalism, evolution, science in general, other races, increasing tolerance toward gays, prayer and religion in public schools (or lack thereof), the vilification of public school teachers and the Liberal Agenda in general. But, I hope I'm to be forgiven if I wonder if some parents would be the best educators if they go to protest events with signs like: "Make English Our Offical Language." "No Pubic Option." "I Am Joe the Plummer." Obama Lier In Chief." And my absolute favorite: "Thank You Fox News For Keeping Us Well Infromed."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. It's just a "rile-up-the-base" election year charade
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

and they've been able to get good mileage from it...

'04 and '08 the GLBT were targeted
in '06 it was the Mexicans crossing the border
in '10 it was ObamaCare, death panels and birtherism...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. The right hates unions, is what it hates.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

Anything that smacks them as exercise of the will of the masses is considered bad, since if we rule, they don't.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
28. Yeah, maybe.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jun 2012

I'm just thinking of the cops who did the banksters bidding during Occupy.

You're probably right that the average right wing working class person hates the cops.

 

shieldsdb

(1 post)
38. Reply to "Yeah, maybe"
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jun 2012

So...Let me ask you something about your post.


"I'm just thinking of the cops (must be Democrats) who did the banksters (must be Democrats) bidding during Occupy.

You're probably right that the average right wing working class person (must be republican) hates the cops."

Did I dissect that correctly? Seems like you are fighting for the other team. You are obviously against the working man. I was under the impression that we were in this sorry state because of the bankers.

And to who ever posted this "article". Whatever happen to responsible journalism? How about citing a source in your paragraph? I know there are other articles on the site that ref. what you are talking about, but we should try to keep the site factual without you spewing what appears to be your opinion.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
40. Nope, try again.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jun 2012

Why is it when people protest the right, the cops come out in droves and when they protest the left, the cops are in on the protests?

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
22. The right has created straw men
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jun 2012

Teachers??? Well, they are LAZY and they only work from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. and "get summers off." I'm married to the WORST of all teachers .... college Perfessers ... them ivory-towered pointy-headed liebruls with no sense. Trust me, right wingers are ALWAYS quick to share THAT wisdom with me on a regular basis.

Police officers? Well, they are always eating donuts and faking overtime.

Firefighters? Who needs 'em? We had volunteer firefighters in the good ol' days.

Executives on the other hand, "work hard" and "you have to pay for talent."

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
25. These are authority figures drawn from the ranks of the 99% ...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

therefore, competition for the authority of the 1% and their willful dupes on the right.

They are authority figures ... but they don't necessary go along with the wingers. Anyone who is not an ally of the right wing is an enemy.

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
26. Can't wait until ...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jun 2012

Anne RMoney gets stuck midway in her car elevator and calls the Fire Department to help her out.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
27. It's part of the war on the public sector.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jun 2012

Once the public sector bailed out the private sectors crash of the economy by shifting the losses to the public sector and giving them 13 trillion in 0 to .025% they needed a scapegoat so they blamed the public sector workers their pensions, the retired on social security, taxes on the rich and public schools.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. Also they are working people doing those jobs and they are enforced to do so without discrimination.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:18 AM
Jun 2012

That is really scandalous behavior, some of those people deserve to be dig ditches, be punished and die, you know.

:sarcasm;

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
34. They really only hate them now that their retirement and benefits have been squandered by
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

the RW banksters, loan sharks, and Wall Street fund managers. Public sector employees benefits and retirements have, in the past, not even been half of what the private sector employees could expect. Now the public sector, lower paying, lower benefit jobs are looking great compared to "nothing." Public service workers have always been look down on by the more well healed private sector employees. A secretary in the Fed gov. might earn $35,000 starting out while her private sector counterpart earned around 45-50K per year. But only a select group would be hired in the private sector...a certain look... Anyway, survival envy is setting in and the money managers have successfully turned the working class on each other.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
39. Do they even know what cops do?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jun 2012

Do they really think gun ownership replaces police presence?

If your child disappears, your gun won't find her.

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