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Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:26 PM

 

Well Brexit just got a bit personal for me

One of my friends in the UK just got verbally harassed for being Romanian.

But nope, it's not about racism and xenophobia. Totally just a means to strike a blow at the neoliberals!

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Reply Well Brexit just got a bit personal for me (Original post)
forjusticethunders Jun 2016 OP
TubbersUK Jun 2016 #1
KPN Jun 2016 #2
Lucinda Jun 2016 #3
pampango Jun 2016 #4
pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #5
Shebear Jun 2016 #6
fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #7
Rex Jun 2016 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #9

Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:38 PM

1. Sorry to hear that

But, sadly, I'm not in the least bit surprised.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:16 PM

2. That's unfortunate. Sorry to hear.

At the same time, to assign all of the discontent to xenophobia is mistaken ... and leaders would do well to recognize the legitimacy of discontent with the current economic model.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:19 PM

3. :(

I'm really sad to hear this.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:22 PM

4. The right campaigned on anti-immigration scapegoating. Some elements must feel empowered now

and less constrained by that dread liberal 'disease' political correctness.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:23 PM

5. That was going on before Brexit

It's a disease that is spreading. In the U.S. even Sikhs have been targeted by people who don't like Muslims.

Brexit is the result, not the cause, of something that extends far beyond the UK.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:30 PM

6. It is not just about racism and xenophobia...

 

... but extremists will try to exploit people's real concerns and suffering. We shouldn't be helping them do it by branding anyone who has concerns about de-industrialization, job loss and loss of democratic process as racist.

I just came back from the UK and there is (no surprise) a different perspective than we have here. Even among immigrants, there is a divide - those of non-EU backgrounds (Pakistanis, Indians, etc.) feel less favorable treatment than EU immigrants, for instance. Most of the EU immigrants are Caucasian.

The local BBC town halls showed the fault lines are not along traditional left-right boundaries. There is a very strong feeling of national independence - not adopting the Euro has spared Brittain the worst of the austerity measures, for instance. There wouldn't have been this mood to exit if the EU had concentrated its policies on the welfare of citizens, rather than making the banks a priority.

Much of this was publicly discussed... particularly being more sensitive to the plight of the bulk of the middle class that has not fared so well as the upper classes in the so-called "recovery".

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:51 PM

7. It's just like the racist crap Trump & minions are spreading mixed with populist hate triggers. nt

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:52 PM

8. I like things simple. nt

 

nt

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Response to forjusticethunders (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:03 PM

9. The racist wankers wouldn't even know how to pronounce 'neoliberal', let alone what it means.

Even DU can't always agree on what it means.

Yes, it was about xenophobic fear-of / anger-against immigrants on the part of the shrinking whites (esp. males).

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