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malaise

(268,664 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 03:35 PM Jul 2016

I was watching Serena Williams playing fellow American Christina McHale

and nearly dropped to the ground when I heard the male commentator refer to the American getting the better of Serena.
Serena won 7-6;2-6; 6-4. That's why we need BLM. Serena isn't American enough apparently. Go Serena- we want 22

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I was watching Serena Williams playing fellow American Christina McHale (Original Post) malaise Jul 2016 OP
Well she might have.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #1
No - there were two Americans playing malaise Jul 2016 #2
Holy Shit.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #6
Male commentator malaise Jul 2016 #9
Mcenroe does the color..Always Great.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #10
A tennis fan knows serina is american Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #30
international event without flags, an international audience might not know mchale was an american KG Jul 2016 #3
I didn't know, personally; when I came in during the game, I had to look McHale up muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #4
To say the American implied malaise Jul 2016 #5
Well, I didn't hear the comment . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jul 2016 #7
No it didn't melman Jul 2016 #8
word. KG Jul 2016 #11
BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! We're commonly known as the other and that's including non American. uponit7771 Jul 2016 #15
You have time malaise Jul 2016 #16
Who was the guy? joeybee12 Jul 2016 #12
I still don't know malaise Jul 2016 #13
I guess the weather has been so bad they're going to have to play on Sunday joeybee12 Jul 2016 #14
One of the worst first weeks in ages malaise Jul 2016 #19
Hmmm, everyone in the tennis community should know Serena is American... this wow... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #17
It was a WTF moment for me malaise Jul 2016 #18
McHale was, at times, during the match bigwillq Jul 2016 #20
Best match ever for Christina malaise Jul 2016 #21
She's one of my favorites....... a kennedy Jul 2016 #33
i missed that (thankfully) Serena is so good, so much fun to watch..Venus played great today too!!! spanone Jul 2016 #22
Man the rain just pelted down when Venus was on match point malaise Jul 2016 #23
what a moment that was! imagine having to re-group! great win. spanone Jul 2016 #24
With some big a$$ raindrops too malaise Jul 2016 #25
Tom Renaldi or something like that......and he's a new voice in tennis. a kennedy Jul 2016 #26
Thanks malaise Jul 2016 #29
Smh..... nt Are_grits_groceries Jul 2016 #27
The American was JUST an American. Serena belongs to the WORLD. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #28
Where was the commentator from? Was he American, or European? Marr Jul 2016 #31
He's from USA...... eom a kennedy Jul 2016 #32

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
1. Well she might have..
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jul 2016

In the second set.....No?

Serena is the greatest American Female Tennis player ever..by far...

malaise

(268,664 posts)
2. No - there were two Americans playing
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jul 2016

if he had said McHale was getting the better of Serena, there would be no need for this thread. Christina played her best game ever today.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. Holy Shit..
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jul 2016

Never realized it.. Just thought the commentator didn’t know Tennis...

Who was it? Most of the time they are pretty good..Chrissie?

KG

(28,751 posts)
3. international event without flags, an international audience might not know mchale was an american
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jul 2016

that would be my take.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
4. I didn't know, personally; when I came in during the game, I had to look McHale up
Reply to KG (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jul 2016

It might depend who the commentary was aimed at. If it was an American commentator for an American audience, it might seem odd, but, as you say, for an international audience, to mention the nationality of a less-known player is not at all unusual.

malaise

(268,664 posts)
5. To say the American implied
Reply to KG (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jul 2016

that Serena was not American - the younger American would have been fine.

7. Well, I didn't hear the comment . . .
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jul 2016

. . . so I suppose I'm in no position to comment. But could it simply be that Serena Williams, having been the best, most dominate female player for so long now, essentially transcends nationality, such that the commentator was taking stock of the then-current situation involving "Serena" (i.e, transcendent "star&quot versus no-name "American opponent"?

That is, I don't see where this necessarily reflects the commentator thinking of Williams as being "not American enough," so much as her being seen as an international figure. In sport, by the time a great player is known by his or her first name (Serena, Venus, Tiger, Lebron, Michael, Phil, etc.), their identity as an American (or whatever country they may happen to hail from) tends to recede in the minds of many fans and commentator.

Just a thought.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
8. No it didn't
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jul 2016

1. They always talk like that in tennis

2. Everyone in the fucking world knows who Serena Williams is and where she's from.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Who was the guy?
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jul 2016

I was watching ESPN before the matches started early this morning and there was some commentator in the studio who I had no idea who he was.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
14. I guess the weather has been so bad they're going to have to play on Sunday
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

and the traditional middle Sunday off is, well, off. Roger is the ONLY man through to the 4th round so far...tells you how backed up they are.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
17. Hmmm, everyone in the tennis community should know Serena is American... this wow...
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jul 2016

.. wtf was the commentator thinking

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
20. McHale was, at times, during the match
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jul 2016

No knock against Serena, but McHale played well.

I hope Serena wins 22.

a kennedy

(29,606 posts)
33. She's one of my favorites.......
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

was sick when she had to play Serena so early in the tournament.........but she had an awesome match. She'll be a better player for that match.

spanone

(135,781 posts)
22. i missed that (thankfully) Serena is so good, so much fun to watch..Venus played great today too!!!
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

malaise

(268,664 posts)
25. With some big a$$ raindrops too
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

It was unbelievable - her face was like where did that come from????

a kennedy

(29,606 posts)
26. Tom Renaldi or something like that......and he's a new voice in tennis.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

Does a lot of other sports, but he's new to tennis.

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