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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:55 PM Jul 2016

Parents angry after finding out a Cub Scouts function was sponsored by Hooters

DENVER - Parents in Denver are complaining after finding out their children attended a Cub Scout camp that was sponsored by Hooters.

KMGH-TV reports Michelle Kettleborough picked up her 7-year-old son from the Frontier District Day Camp and found him surrounded by people wearing Hooters visors.

But parents say it isn't the attire that irritates them - the women were wearing shorts and fitted T-shirts - but that Hooters doesn't fit the philosophy of the Scouts.

The Boy Scouts of America Denver Area Council says the restaurant chain, known for its scantily clad waitresses and sports-bar atmosphere, approached the organization about working with the scouts.

Hooters Colorado had posted photos of boys holding their craft projects and posing with employees but has since removed the images.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hooters-sponsorship-of-cub-scouts-camp-irks-parents/

Oh the horror!!!!! I'm sure these kids were just traumatized seeing a few women with shorts and a fitted t-shirt!




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Parents angry after finding out a Cub Scouts function was sponsored by Hooters (Original Post) davidn3600 Jul 2016 OP
too bad they didn't get some priests to sponsor it Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #1
Those young boys were probably having the time of their life. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #2
This would have pissed me off. Brickbat Jul 2016 #3
which part? the hooters being allowed, or the part where the parents were pissed? if the latter, Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #5
You serious? davidn3600 Jul 2016 #6
because people love a good outrage? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #19
^^^This.^^^ n/t Different Drummer Jul 2016 #23
always better to be pissed off than pissed on! snooper2 Jul 2016 #56
hey! parents! how do stories like this fit your pristine BSA image? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #4
Wouldn't bother me. Iggo Jul 2016 #7
Parents need to get over themselves Egnever Jul 2016 #8
It bothers me.. zenabby Jul 2016 #9
Yeah, point of market entry. Get them on board while they are young! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #20
Not to mention we're watching messages kids get when they are young played out on college campuses Iris Jul 2016 #26
Companies,football teams etc use sex to sell all the time,I would love to have been in scout in that Demonaut Jul 2016 #55
It's a restaurant not a Strip Club or Porn Store. dilby Jul 2016 #10
I hate Hooters (the restaurant) but this is awesome! JanMichael Jul 2016 #11
Every type. Iggo Jul 2016 #50
Legal Weed, too. OH NOEZ!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #76
Yes, like the boy scouts, the cub scouts do a lot of god-bothering and was until recently homophobic Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #12
Wow. To be a scout again. rickford66 Jul 2016 #13
As a parent of a boy who was a scout OldHippieChick Jul 2016 #14
I'm feeling the same way. Laffy Kat Jul 2016 #32
THIS! loyalsister Jul 2016 #65
If there's one thing that isn't designed for children, it's breasts! Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #15
ROFL! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #38
Objectification of women is not something to be teaching boys or anyone. alarimer Jul 2016 #16
I agree with you! DawgHouse Jul 2016 #17
Personally, I'd much rather have my kids around hooters employees than Priests. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #18
Must be odd to believe your children's only options are waitresses and priests. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #49
The people in the photos look like they're smiling and having a good time. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #70
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #21
Sounds to me you're the one reducing these young women to "boobs" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #41
Don't presume to know what I give a fuck about. And don't be so obtuse about what this really is. smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #66
They don't have to deal with the logical outcome of this objectification alarimer Jul 2016 #57
I think that is the difference and why a lot of people here seem to be on polar smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #67
There seems to be a rough correlation ronnie624 Jul 2016 #61
Thanks for stating the obvious. Iris Jul 2016 #29
The Kardashians have made a serious fortune peddling the same thing. closeupready Jul 2016 #54
Lol, my daughter works at Hooter's & it's my niece's giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #31
That's ridiculous davidn3600 Jul 2016 #39
Thank you. Poll dancing is a job, not a career option, and girls shouldn't closeupready Jul 2016 #52
Nobody pole dances at Hooters. yardwork Jul 2016 #59
Distinction made about two things which are almost identical. closeupready Jul 2016 #60
I disagree. yardwork Jul 2016 #62
We don't have to agree, friend, and we surely do not. closeupready Jul 2016 #63
That's for damn sure. Orrex Jul 2016 #68
Lol! yardwork Jul 2016 #69
"Poll" dancing? You've been following politics too closely. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2016 #71
lol, just HAD to go there, huh??? closeupready Jul 2016 #73
+1000 frogmarch Jul 2016 #64
The women look happy, the kids look happy. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #22
First world problem. Rex Jul 2016 #24
Apparently it's important enough to make the national news. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #25
Say there, you have a license to outrage? Rex Jul 2016 #42
When my son was little Hooters threw a Halloween party for kids with Juvenile Diabetes TBA Jul 2016 #27
Not much on Hooters-mainly because I hate to see women exploited -but as a former scout, Hoyt Jul 2016 #28
Looks pretty harmless to me. It's nice that they would sponsor the day camp. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #30
The women... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #33
Best wings in town, been taking my kids there since they could walk. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #34
I find this very amusing. I'm sorry. yardwork Jul 2016 #35
Wildlife merit badge? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #36
before you complain find someone else to sponsor money and volunteers dembotoz Jul 2016 #37
If it was a sporting goods store that sells guns Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #40
What the hell is a fitted t-shirt? Those are just t-shirts they're wearing. Why the hell is... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #43
I Guess. . . ProfessorGAC Jul 2016 #72
Exactly. The word "fitted" was used purposely to infer that those girls are purposely... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #74
100% Pre-Shrunk Cotton SIN, is what it is. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #75
the morality cops are on the job! Javaman Jul 2016 #44
Quick! To the Morality Mobile! Initech Jul 2016 #45
queue the batman TV show music! LOL nt Javaman Jul 2016 #47
Meanwhile at the morality cave... Initech Jul 2016 #58
The waitresses at Hooters wear shorts and T-shirts? Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #46
quick swathe the kids in blankets from head to toe! Javaman Jul 2016 #48
And pantyhose underpants Jul 2016 #53
pretty girls around young boys, good for the scouts! Demonaut Jul 2016 #51
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
1. too bad they didn't get some priests to sponsor it
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

and how much do you think the cub scouts LOVED those hooter girls?

I'd surely thought I'd died and gone to heaven if our pack had sponsors like those.

would have loved to seen the look on my den mother-mom's face had that happened.

My dad would've dug it, too. he kept playboys hidden under his stuff in one of his drawers

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this multi-song youtube set, btw, is a great intro to zappa, for those who haven't checked him out, so let it play!
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
5. which part? the hooters being allowed, or the part where the parents were pissed? if the latter,
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jul 2016

see post four here

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
6. You serious?
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jul 2016

A business is trying to donate and help their local community. The women there were wearing tshirts and shorts. Kids see more skin at the beach or the pool.

What's the problem?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. hey! parents! how do stories like this fit your pristine BSA image?
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-boy-scouts-perversion-files-full-coverage-storygallery.html

three headlines out of the nineteen listed:

Boy Scouts' opposition to background checks let pedophiles in

Boy Scout files reveal repeat child abuse by sexual predators

Boy Scouts to review half-century of files on sexual predators
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. Parents need to get over themselves
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

Good for hooter for trying to support the community.

I will likely never darken their door regardless but there is nothing wrong with them sponsoring a summer camp.

zenabby

(364 posts)
9. It bothers me..
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jul 2016

There is something wrong with an organization whose mission is to make money off women's boobs and objectification is sponsoring events for cub scouts where very young impressionable boys are there. I might be ok if there were no logos or advertising by Hooters, but clearly the goal is to spread their name among young boys to get brand recognition.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Yeah, point of market entry. Get them on board while they are young!
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jul 2016

I have a problem with this too. I am sure they aren't sponsoring the Boy Scouts out of some greater humanitarian impulse.

Iris

(15,652 posts)
26. Not to mention we're watching messages kids get when they are young played out on college campuses
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jul 2016

in a disturbing way.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
55. Companies,football teams etc use sex to sell all the time,I would love to have been in scout in that
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

environment

dilby

(2,273 posts)
10. It's a restaurant not a Strip Club or Porn Store.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jul 2016

My son is a Boy Scout and I would have no problem with him getting to do crafts with fully clothed women who are taking time out of their day for his benefit.

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
11. I hate Hooters (the restaurant) but this is awesome!
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jul 2016

Colorado is now possible the coolest place on the planet!

They manage to piss off every type of conservative in the book. Not even having to try anymore either. It is organic.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. Yes, like the boy scouts, the cub scouts do a lot of god-bothering and was until recently homophobic
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

Hooters can do better.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
14. As a parent of a boy who was a scout
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jul 2016

I can definitely say I would be screaming bloody murder. An organization that exploits women would make me angry at the very least. This is not what scouting is supposed to be about. And yes, I also balked and complained about the NRA involvement. I was a den mother for many years and did my best to change the organization for its homophobia and xenophobia.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
32. I'm feeling the same way.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jul 2016

I have two boys and I detest the message Hooters advertises. Of course, we'll be called angry feminists who need to chill, yada, yada.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
65. THIS!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jul 2016

I'm glad at least a few people get why these parents are angry. I say good for them for recognizing the value in teaching young boys that exploiting women is unacceptable.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
16. Objectification of women is not something to be teaching boys or anyone.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jul 2016

Fuck Hooters, that misogynistic piece of trash "restaurant."

For those who defend this shit, do you not see how fucking pervasive sexism is? This is part and parcel of what women deal with on a daily fucking basis, reduced to their body parts to sell burgers or floor wax or whatever.

And, yes, I know people work there voluntarily. People do all kinds of shitty things to make a living. It doesn't make it any less harmful to society.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. Personally, I'd much rather have my kids around hooters employees than Priests.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jul 2016

The Boy Scouts have been teaching homophobia for decades - that's the "philosophy of the scouts" that is jeopardized by hooters- but people want to have a fit over skimpy shirts?

Sorry, not feeling the outrage. I don't believe in shaming people for their bodies, nor do I really believe sexuality is high up on the list of things "harmful to society".

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. Must be odd to believe your children's only options are waitresses and priests.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jul 2016

Must be odd to believe your children's only options are waitresses and priests.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
70. The people in the photos look like they're smiling and having a good time.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

Must be odd to be so bothered by something like that.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. Thank YOU!
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jul 2016

It's amazing how many so called liberal men seem to think it's about nothing more than sex or boobs. They fail to see the objectification and the harm it does to women.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
41. Sounds to me you're the one reducing these young women to "boobs"
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jul 2016

Here they are doing something good, and you could give fuck all except what they do for a living.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
66. Don't presume to know what I give a fuck about. And don't be so obtuse about what this really is.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jul 2016

Chances are they are there because their company wants to promote their brand to young boys early. Why do they not volunteer for Girl Scouts or other groups in need? I will think you will find that the motivation behind the brand "doing a good thing" is not quite so based in altruism.

Judging what they do for a living has nothing to do w/ prudery as you and so many other's who pride yourselves on your "broad minded" attitudes about sex think. I don't blame the women themselves. I blame a culture steeped in misogyny that promotes this type of business and sees women as nothing more than T&A. It completely devalues their humanity.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
57. They don't have to deal with the logical outcome of this objectification
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jul 2016

Sexual harassment and abuse. Well, of course, those things are not exclusive to women, but the majority of people who experience those things are women. Any woman of almost any age has stories of unwelcome attention.

I get tired of the sneering "well, I'm sure those boys had a good time." Yeah, because it's never too early to start training in objectification. I get so pissed at men's (not all men, but most) sense of entitlement with regard to women's bodies. It's as if they only exist for their viewing pleasure. Which is amazing considering they would hate it if it happened to someone they loved. Why not teach your kids about treating everyone as a human being, not just a sum of their parts? When do we as a society start doing that, instead of giggling about boys and boobs?

I know that the parents objected because Hooters is "unwholesome" and not because they are great feminists. And I get that our society is all sort of messed up when it comes to sex and the human body.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
67. I think that is the difference and why a lot of people here seem to be on polar
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jul 2016

opposites of this issue. Some see the backlash as nothing but sexual prudery and they are speaking up for this in response to the religious right/sexually oppressed in this culture.

Others of us, like you and I see the harm this kind of objectification does to women and it's pervasiveness in society. It teaches men that women are nothing more than sexual objects and teaches them to discount or dismiss our humanity. This in turn I believe contributes to the fact of why it is so easy in this culture to get away with rape and violence toward women. We don't exist in our own right, we simply exist to please them and if we don't, we'll it's not like we are really human beings anyway so it's perfectly acceptable to many men to rape, abuse and discriminate against us.

There are so many here, mostly men I'm am afraid, who will never get what this does to women. They don't care and they don't want to understand. As long as they are getting off, they could give a shit about the larger picture. Of course these are usually the biggest cheerleaders when it comes to the rights of other oppressed groups, but somehow, women just don't seem to be quite as important to them when it comes to social justice.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
61. There seems to be a rough correlation
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jul 2016

between those who are blind to the objectification of women in our culture and those who do prison rape jokes.

Iris

(15,652 posts)
29. Thanks for stating the obvious.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

I'm stunned that this thread only has a few people who are willing to point out that there are problems with this sort of thing.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
54. The Kardashians have made a serious fortune peddling the same thing.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jul 2016

And it's one of the reasons I loathe almost their entire clan.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
31. Lol, my daughter works at Hooter's & it's my niece's
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jul 2016

favorite place for wings but thank you for not stinking it up with your self righteous indignation.😜

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
39. That's ridiculous
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jul 2016

No one forces women to work there. They don't look oppressed or sad. In fact, the people working at Hooters look a heck of a lot happier than the people who work at McDonalds or Walmart.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
52. Thank you. Poll dancing is a job, not a career option, and girls shouldn't
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jul 2016

be encouraged to think - even subtly - that they are nothing more than sex toys/baby farms. Thanks again for putting that so well.

yardwork

(61,595 posts)
62. I disagree.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jul 2016

On the spectrum of "businesses that oppress and objectify women," strip clubs with pole dancing are way down toward the end of one side. Hooters is a good ways away, with a number of businesses - including cocktail bars - in between.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
63. We don't have to agree, friend, and we surely do not.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jul 2016

I would not want my children feeling encouraged to make money through prostitution, even when they become adults.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
68. That's for damn sure.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jul 2016

I once tried to pole dance while waiting for my wings and they threw me right out of there, those prudes.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
71. "Poll" dancing? You've been following politics too closely.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jul 2016

Some polls are easy to dance to, some just make me grumpy.

TBA

(825 posts)
27. When my son was little Hooters threw a Halloween party for kids with Juvenile Diabetes
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jul 2016

My son had just been diagnosed and he was 10 years old. It was all free. Fun, games and food my kid could eat. I did not mind the waitresses or their clothing (or lack thereof).

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. Not much on Hooters-mainly because I hate to see women exploited -but as a former scout,
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

I might have stayed in longer with field trips like that at 8 years old or so. Pinewood Derby wasn't too bad, once.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
30. Looks pretty harmless to me. It's nice that they would sponsor the day camp.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jul 2016

Its likely that a one or more of the servers have kids in that program.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
33. The women...
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jul 2016

...are dressed normally and do not appear provocative. Looks fine, to me.

And, I am one who does not like being served food or drinks by women or men in sexualized clothing (or lack thereof).

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
34. Best wings in town, been taking my kids there since they could walk.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jul 2016

but then again we're from Florida where being half dressed is the norm & strips clubs are a right of passage for both sexes.

yardwork

(61,595 posts)
35. I find this very amusing. I'm sorry.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jul 2016

If Hooters abuses women, then I'm wrong, but I don't know that Hooters actually abuses women.

The women in the photos look fine to me.

I can totally imagine the parents... This reminds me of when the drum line in my son's band got in trouble with certain parents for... I can't remember what exactly but I remember laughing. Not the correct parental response I guess.

Maybe I'm basically am eleven year old boy at heart.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
43. What the hell is a fitted t-shirt? Those are just t-shirts they're wearing. Why the hell is...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jul 2016

... the word fitted even being used when referring to a t-shirt?

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
72. I Guess. . .
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jul 2016

. . .one could use that term when they're at work with the tight tee shirts (yeah, i went there once on a business trip, but not a wings guy so didn't like the food.)

But, in those pictures, those tees are tight. They fit like any other tee shirt.

Much ado about nothing.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
74. Exactly. The word "fitted" was used purposely to infer that those girls are purposely...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jul 2016

...accentuating their curves in the presence of Boy Scouts, which clearly is not what they're doing in those tees in those pics.

The word "fitted" was used to make the story seem somehow more risque than it is.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
46. The waitresses at Hooters wear shorts and T-shirts?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jul 2016

That is absolutely appalling. Won't someone think of the children?

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
48. quick swathe the kids in blankets from head to toe!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jul 2016

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and put those hooter women in burkas, stat!

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