Trump and J. Epstein sued for raping 13 year old girl, with witness corroboration.

[Gabi Hayes]

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"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

this ''terrific guy'' is Jeffrey Epstein, named in the current lawsuit, and one of the truly LOATHSOME creeps to come along in recent memory:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/07/judge-unseals-more-details-in-jeffrey-epstein-underage-sex-lawsuit-210065



I heard Lisa Bloom on Stephanie Miller this morning, discussing the rape case, and why it's not being reported ANYwhere in the M$M. why is that, I wonder?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

look who's covering it? no major outlets. the NY Daily News comes closest here:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=trump+rape&tbm=nws

why do you think they refuse to even mention it? they came up with a pretty good answer on the radio this morning.

EDIT: I changed the title because I think the replacement is more specific to the case.especially since there's a witness; it seems to me that the media should at least announce the filing of the case. I has appeared NOWHERE in major markets, except the NY Daily News, and nobody pays attention to them. Please spread this around. I know Clinton has at least a tangential link to this

[Initech]

1. Really wish I wasn't eating lunch when I read this:

"It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Even as a straight white male, I am creeped the fuck out by that sentence.

[Gabi Hayes]

5. well, you've seen this, I'm sure:

they just LAUGH hysterically at the idea, all around. really nauseating

follow up commentary, with the same clip as part of it

the pro trump comments are beyond belief....completely delusional, to an even greater degree than one normally observes

[Initech]

9. Ugh..............

[wryter2000]

76. On that first

They were pretty repulsed. Yes, they laughed, but it was mostly nervous laughter. Joy said, "Who are you...Woody Allen?"

[rurallib]

2. Heard that Steph interview but can't remember what they said

But one of the overriding principals for TV is to make the big bucks (which they do in campaign years) means there must be a horse race.

If the Trump rape gets legs that would definitely be the end.

[spanone]

3. K&R...

[hlthe2b]

4. so, what DID they come up with (in terms of explanation) on the radio this morning?

[Gabi Hayes]

6. I was hoping posters here would give their own suppositions. I'll

tell you what they said in a bit.

what do you think the reason is? makes perfect sense, btw.

[hlthe2b]

7. they are cowards & don't want to risk the wrath

of Trump's most unhinged supporters, nor lose the inappropriately close relationship with other REPUBs.

[Gabi Hayes]

8. good guess, but nope

[Gabi Hayes]

10. ''he's a lot of fun to be with,'' especially during the forced

RAPING! don't go any farther if you want to keep down your dinner:

this, according to witness Tiffany Doe, from the scopes site from above:

I personally witnessed four sexual encounters that the Plaintiff was forced to have with Mr. Trump during this period, including the fourth of these encounters where Mr. Trump forcibly raped her despite her pleas to stop.

I personally witnessed the one occasion where Mr. Trump forced the Plaintiff and a 12-year-old female named Maria [to] perform oral sex on Mr. Trump and witnessed his physical abuse of both minors when they finished the act.

It was my job to personally witness and supervise encounters between the underage girls that Mr. Epstein hired and his guests.


isn't that special?

and yet, NOBODY in the mainstream will touch this radioactive story. they sure jumped right into the juanita broaddrick BS awhile back, as soon as Trump brought it up.

[840high]

27. Remember Bill was friends with Epstein.

[Gabi Hayes]

30. if you read more of this thread, you'll see I've responded to that:

let the chips fall where they may wrt to Clinton. if he goes down, tough toenails, as long as it happens to Trump, as well. Only problem is that the media probably will ignore it, just as they did the Bush AWOL story, until they were able to unleash the attack on Rather for the supposedly bogus typewriter keystrokes.

I'm still amazed that the NY Times story linked here was pretty much completely ignored, and that's what worries me about the lawsuit.

[840high]

36. Thanks.

[pnwmom]

41. Hundreds of other people were friends with him. But flight logs show Bill never went to

the pedophile's Island -- but Trump did.

And the witness, the party planner, says that Trump was there. Not Clinton.

[ailsagirl]

11. So-o-o-o-o-o-o repugnant

Really, beyond words

[Gabi Hayes]

12. are two women conspiring to commit perjury, or whatever?

why would they do such a thing, and expose themselves to lord knows what kind of abuse?

if you read the snopes article, it quotes her as saying trump threatened her physically if she talked

{name deleted} says in the complaint that Trump and Epstein threatened her and her family with bodily harm if she didn’t comply with all of their disgusting demands.

[Gabi Hayes]

13. ''Doe says that Trump then allowed Epstein to rape her twice and strike her...

....Epstein apparently angrily screamed his regrets that Trump took her virginity instead of him.''

https://usuncut.com/news/trump-lawsuit-13-year-old-rape/

isn't that special?

[2naSalit]

14. That's disgusting beyond words, K&R for exposure

[Gabi Hayes]

15. Bill Clinton, that ahole, has kept the dems from even broaching this subject,

thanks to his own ties with this monster Epstein; make no mistake, he is a monster, and you can bet he turned some dirty deals with a very corrupt prosecutor to keep his filthy, perverted ass out of jail for the LIFETIME sentence he deserves. thanks, Bill. next time, think twice before you take young girls shopping with you when you're buying Chelsea some jewelry.

the very idea that someone like Epstein walks around a free man with only a soliciting rap nauseates me beyond description

one last......know who one of Epstein's high profile defense scum was? that's right:

[840high]

26. Bill took many trips with Epstein.

[pnwmom]

42. Not one trip to the Island where Epstein had these girls. n/t

[Locrian]

80. lots

An investigation into official flight records of financier and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” are once again dragging former President Bill Clinton into the national spotlight.

Flight logs obtained by Gawker in January 2015 put Mr. Clinton on the billionaire’s infamous jet more than a dozen times — sometimes with a woman whom federal prosecutors suspect of procuring underage sex victims for Mr. Epstein. Fox News reported Friday that records show Mr. Clinton declined Secret Service protection on at least five flights.

The network’s investigation reveals Mr. Clinton flew on the Boeing 727 “Lolita Express” 26 times, more than doubling the previously reported 11 trips.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/

[840high]

82. Thanks. You saved me time.

[demmiblue]

16. Anyone closely associated with Epstein should be suspect.

You can't tell me that a shitload of people didn't know what was going on (some probably participated), but kept silent.

Fucking appalling.

[Gabi Hayes]

21. there should be a special prosecutor appointed for this case

obvious perjury committed here

[oberliner]

23. Including Clinton?

I don't think going down this road will end well for either party.

[Gabi Hayes]

24. possibly. I don't know the extent of his participation, but if

he is involved, fuck him.

if this is true, trump is finished, regardless of WJC

it is SAD that doncon won't be going to the slam for this, though, unless some sort of perjury might be shown

maybe comey can go after him the way he did Martha Stewart

[Gabi Hayes]

17. nothing but scumbags, on both sides of the legal aisle:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/30/conservative-scold-ken-starr-got-a-billionaire-pedophile-off.html

the fed attorneys who struck this unholy deal did things like NOT informing some of the underage girls who were solicited that the case was being settled, which they SHOULD have, under law, been allowed to do, eliminating their day in court. can't find it in this story, because the link is so terrible, rendering it unreadable, mostly, for my horrible computer.

I have read that elsewhere, and will post it if I find it.

these people are beyond contempt, and that includes YOU, Alan Dershowitz, legal pimp for Epstein

read the story; it'll make you want to vomit

[Gabi Hayes]

18. details regarding the above post:

this case is so appalling. I'd forgotten that Dershowitz himself has been accused of assaulting young girls. it's at this link

The two women are represented by Fort Lauderdale lawyer Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell, a law professor and former federal judge from Utah who is a nationally known victims' rights advocate.

They want the judge to rule the women's rights, under the federal Crime Victims' Rights Act, were violated. Some of their proposed penalties include invalidating the non-prosecution agreement; forcing prosecutors to meet with them to discuss the case and possible prosecution of Epstein; forcing prosecutors to apologize; and forcing prosecutors to pay financial sanctions and the victims' legal fees. Victims are not entitled to be paid damages, according to court records.

"There is good reason to believe that if the prosecutors had exposed their dealings to scrutiny by Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2, they would not have reached such a sweetheart deal," Edwards wrote in court records.

Prosecutors "wanted the non-prosecution agreement kept from public view because of the intense public criticism that would have resulted from allowing a politically-connected billionaire who had sexually abused more than 30 minor girls to escape from federal prosecution with only a county jail sentence," Edwards also wrote in court filings.

Prosecutors filed court records revealing the federal investigation of Epstein began in 2006 at the request of the Town of Palm Beach police. The non-prosecution agreement was signed in September 2007, nine months before Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges. Among the reasons for the agreement, federal prosecutors wrote, were that Epstein was being prosecuted by the Palm Beach State Attorney's Office and the agreement preserved and protected the victims' rights to get financial restitution from Epstein.

the worst part of this is that the sleazy defenders of the deal are, under the very guise of secrecy which they hide, are SLANDERING the victims, accusing them of POSSIBLY being procurers themselves!

ironically, they mention that Clinton and Trump's names have come up because of their ties to Epstein, but neither has been charged with anything.

OOPSIE! time to update this January story, isn't it, Sun Sentinel?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-jeffrey-epstein-victims-civil-20151230-story.html

[Gabi Hayes]

19. lest we forget, Ivana accused him of raping her in a deposition

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/time-to-press-donald-on-raping-his-wife

she's since denied it, but that would mean she committed perjury when she signed that deposition

inquiring minds want to know the truth

[Gabi Hayes]

20. why the lack of interest? it's so.....

substantive, yes?

[oberliner]

22. Bill Clinton is also very much linked to this person

Jeffrey Epstein, that is.

[Gabi Hayes]

25. very well aware, and I might have addressed this already in this thread, but

too bad for Clinton. If he's involved in any way, he should suffer the consequences. If Trump is forced to answer these charges before the election, as he should, he's screwed, WJC be damned. Can you imagine if Trump wins, then the court case goes through, and they find for Jane Doe? How many others, who were similarly threatened, along with at least one person who may have "disappeared," will come out of the woodwork, ala Cosby?

The way the media work, though, he's the one who'll get nailed, not Trump, because they refused to even MENTION the filing. All one has to do is follow the way they've spit back the republican line all the way with the email BS.

If you haven't read the snopes link, please do. the Huffington Post one is also good, because it mentions the story of a woman who was assaulted in Ivanka's bedroom at Mar a Lago. Even fewer people are talking about that one, although Trump himself brought it up, which freed her to address it. I'll post that section next.

[oberliner]

28. Yes, it is very disturbing

This guy (Epstein) is an absolute slime ball (to put it mildly), and I have no doubt that some truly despicable and illegal things went on at his various "parties". It makes me sick to think of it.

With respect to Trump, the fact that he could potential get elected president is frightening. And that is just based on the things about him that are known to be true.

[pnwmom]

43. What about Jerry Sandusky? Hundreds of other people were also linked

to the Penn State coach/pedophile, just as Clinton and many others were linked to Epstein. Were all Sandusky's friends and associates guilty, too?

Guilt by association. Is that the way this is going to go?

[pnwmom]

44. He is not linked to these activities. Fox News reported on this,

saying that Bill did NOT show up on any flight logs to Epstein's Island -- where these assaults are said to have occurred -- though flight logs show Bill and his secret service detail did fly on Epstein's jet to other places.

[pnwmom]

52. Give me a break. Is this the Puritan party? "It is a fact that Epstein had prostitutes

on that plane."

Horrors!



"Some of whom were allegedly underage." "Allegedly" is the key word here. The woman quoted in the article was 22 when she was hired by Epstein.

Hundreds of Jerry Sandusky's friends, relatives, and associates had no idea what he was doing to little boys. Most people would never suspect anyone they knew of something this vile.

Bill is not guilty-by-association any more than Jerry Sandusky's Penn State alumni pals.

[oberliner]

72. OK

If you want to believe that Bill had no idea what his friend might have been up to, then more power to you.

[pnwmom]

81. I know people in Pennsylvania who were very active in football activities

and also in the charitable organization that Sandusky set up.

Many people in PA were around him while this was going on and had no idea what he was up to, and were sickened by it.

Pedophiles don't advertise their activities to non-pedophiles. They're good at covering up.

[Gabi Hayes]

49. he went to Africa as part of some clinton foundation thing, I believe, with Chris Tucker and

one or two other celebs.

I ran across some video from one of those tabloid shows that had an interview with a young lady on the plane that Clinton took shopping at a jewelry store.....a gift for Chelsea's birthday. really creepy video. the girl said nothing happened between her and Clinton, including no massage, after she was specifically asked

couldn't find it again, but here's a written version of what I saw:

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/10366-lolita-express-masseuse-reveals-lurid-details-from-jeffrey-epsteins-private-plane-for-the-rich-and

[pnwmom]

53. That "young lady" was AT LEAST 22 (age she was hired by Epstein) and she flatly denied

doing anything more for Bill Clinton than picking out a gift for Chelsea.

Please don't smear Bill here. Did you smear every associate of Jerry Sandusky or Michael Jackson, too? Each of them had hundreds of friends and associates, just like Epstein did.

[Gabi Hayes]

55. whoaaa, there, nelly! all I said was that it was a creepy video. if I can find it again,

I'll link it. no judgment about WJC. sorry if that was what you inferred. to be clearer, the creepy part was what she described happened on the plane (no mention of WJC participating, IIRC). does that help?

[pnwmom]

57. It was unfair, in a thread about a pedophile's link to Bill Clinton,

to refer to the adult woman as a "girl," and a "young lady" and to describe as "creepy" her statement that she had helped Bill pick out a bracelet for Chelsea.

[Gabi Hayes]

60. again, you need to read the link. I said the video was creepy, not a word about the buying of the

jewelry {EDIT...holdover from OP}.....being creepy

I ran across some video from one of those tabloid shows that had an interview with a young lady on the plane that Clinton took shopping at a jewelry store.....a gift for Chelsea's birthday. really creepy video. the girl said nothing happened between her and Clinton, including no massage, after she was specifically asked

again, I'm sorry for the inference you made. perhaps it was because of my infelicitous manner of expression, but what I could have said better, in terms of chronology was that the vid was creepy. THEN she talked about the shopping trip. At some point she explicitly said nothing happened between them. that's pretty much what was in the quote, which is right here in this link. you think I did this whole thread to get at Clinton?

[pnwmom]

61. I don't understand why you're bringing Clinton into this at all.

No one is accusing Bill of nothing more than being one of hundreds of Epstein's friends, and taking rides on his plane, along with his Secret service detail, and many other associates of Epstein.

Jerry Sandusky had many pals. Michael Jackson had many pals. We aren't smearing all of those associates. Why smear Clinton?

[JNelson6563]

67. You don't?

Seriously?

Prepare for a confusing few months ahead then. I daresay this primary season we just went through will never end for some.

Julie

[pnwmom]

68. I understand why a Trump supporter would smear him. Not why a DUer would. n/t

[JNelson6563]

69. Because primaries can change people.

[pnwmom]

70. And sometimes they reveal who people were all along. n/t

[JNelson6563]

71. Agreed.

[DiverDave]

87. Did he, in fact, refuse

Secret Service protection? WHY? You can't be against trumps actions, but ignore bills.
If he did ANYTHING with minor girls, he should pay.

[Gabi Hayes]

62. OK. I get your point: I should not have mentioned Clinton. got it.

I was just describing the vid I saw, because I didn't have the link to it.

I specifically said that nothing happened between him and the 22 year old woman.

whatever else you choose to infer is on you.

I'll leave it at that.

no more going down this road. I don't think I can make myself any clearer.

[pnwmom]

66. ...

[Gabi Hayes]

29. Why isn't THIS being talked about AT ALL?

from one of the OP links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

A second woman accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, in 1997. According to The Guardian, then thirty-four year old Jill Harth alleged in a federal lawsuit that Trump violated her “physical and mental integrity” when he touched her intimately without consent after her husband went into business with him, leaving her “emotionally devastated [and] distraught.” The lawsuit called the multiple acts “attempted rape.” Shortly thereafter she voluntarily withdrew the case when a parallel suit against Mr. Trump brought by her husband was settled. When The Guardian reached the woman in 2016 to ask whether she stood by her sexual assault allegations, she responded, “yes.”

In a court filing, according to a report, Ms. Harth alleged that while she and her husband were trying to do a business deal with Mr. Trump regarding a beauty pageant, he repeatedly propositioned her for sex and groped her, culminating in this frightening alleged incident....my words>>>see ny times link below, and READ IT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=1

Trump forcefully removed (Harth) from public areas of Mar-A-Lago in Florida and forced (her) into a bedroom belonging to defendant’s daughter Ivanka, wherein (Trump) forcibly kissed, fondled, and restrained (her) from leaving, against (her) will and despite her protests.” In the court document, she said that Trump bragged that he ”would be the best lover you ever have.”



Recently Donald Trump issued a statement that women’s claims of sexual harassment, documented in a lengthy New York Times investigation which included Ms. Harth’s lawsuit, were “made up.”

Jill Harth responded angrily on Twitter last week: “My part was true. I didn’t talk. As usual you opened your big mouth.”

I must have missed the NYT story linked above, as I wasn't coming here much when it came out. anybody recall discussions regarding it?

[napkinz]

93. is it now time to shift from speechgate to this story?

[Gabi Hayes]

94. I did say somewhere that, now he's got the nom, it might be time to bite the

plage bullet.

I don't think the media are going to touch this unless it's remanded for trial, which won't be til after the election.

it's ''only'' a civil case, anyway

[Gabi Hayes]

31. here's more on the Mar a Lago assault, which has been documented, and totally ignored by the MSM:

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/woman-who-accused-trump-attempted-rape-lashes-out

“Donald Trump stared at me throughout that meeting. He stared at me even while George was giving his presentation. … In the middle of it he says to George, ‘Are you sleeping with her?’ Meaning me. And George looked a little shocked and he said, ‘Well, yeah.’ And he goes, ‘Well, for the weekend or what?'”

Though Houraney made it clear he and Harth were a monogamous couple, Trump said, “Well, there’s always a first time. I am going after her.”

“I thought the man was joking. I laughed. He said, ‘I am serious,'” Houraney told the Times.

Harth said Trump groped her under the table that night when the couple joined him for dinner.

it gets worse from there, as I posted from an earlier link.

[Judi Lynn]

38. Hideous behavior from a real piece of trash. Trash with money. Feels so powerful.

Hope it's time life will teach him he's wrong.

[Gabi Hayes]

39. I have scant hope that this will see the light of day, any more than

Bush AWOL did. It would be very sweet, though, if this did start coming out after the convention.

and Bill Clinton, this is for you: if you had any part in this, I hope you suffer the same fate as Trump. I'm pretty sure that you're in more trouble than he at this point, because this is only a civil suit, and beyond the statute of limitations. Unless they can do something about the heinous way the prosecutors circumvented the law in failing to notify some of Epstein's victims before signing off on his plea bargain, it appears he's off scott free, too.

[Lint Head]

32. I bet a dollar to a donut Rusty Slimeballs has been

hosted by Epstein.

[libdem4life]

33. It was young boys in the 80s...Larry King and the Nebraska Senator

that got a ton of information, wrote a book, and nary a blip. It was shocking. Bush was in on that one too.

http://franklinscandal.com/

Here's another...I lived there... it was very well known...and the list of "attendees" is mindblowing. They hired locals for food service and parking, etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/bohemian-grove-where-the-rich-and-powerful-go-to-misbehave/2011/06/15/AGPV1sVH_blog.html

Then there is Boy's Town.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december292012/boys-town-scandal-tk.php

How could anyone be shocked. It's just part of the "being a politician." See, once you're there at one of these pedophilia parties, you can never use it against anyone else. Speaking of dossiers. And no one ever peeps...even those not involved. And the traumatized children are usually either told to forget it, or abandoned.

I could write books. It's worse in England...in fact it's a fact of life since forever...children have been at the mercy of the level of adult/adult's friends because they are powerless. And really, sex is not about sex...at least this kind...it is about power.

Back in the day, when the Barbarians came through, the townsfolk would offer their children up for "service" so they would not burn down their town. Every conquering nation is "in on it". It's part of the Conquer.

Then there's the Catholic Church. And I have my own personal stories about the Protestants...just as bad.

I hate to see them come out, because they just die an unnatural death and it's just one more horror the public does not want to know about, let along deal with. And that makes the next one even easier.

Seems Epstein's group may even be teenagers. Most aren't...often threatened with the death of parents or family if they tell.

It's just no big deal anymore. Just another sex scandal from powerful people.

[Gabi Hayes]

35. I remember those, and came across mention of them while I've been

slogging through this muck. thanks for the details

pretty sad, isn't it? very sick making

what's worse about this current case is that the media is still refusing to even mention that the case was even FILED, much less discussed on the merits, or lack thereof. if it's not true, SHOOT it down, right?

not enough ten foot poles, I guess.

[libdem4life]

48. I believe, if memory serves me, there were never even any charges.

I could be wrong, but they came and went so fast those who don't pay attention to "those things" or read alternative media... mostly never even knew of any of the events. We Americans are very good at not seeing what we don't want to see. Wars, for example.

After thinking of it in an intellectual way, perhaps it makes sense why politicians are as they are. It is rigged...they are owned...and I'll bet money Bernie isn't in The Group.

[smirkymonkey]

75. +1000

Sick, sick, sick! The coverup is the sickest thing of all.

[libdem4life]

84. Actually, there was no coverup, as I recall, for the former ones

because it just wasn't mentioned much. Kind of like a typhoid handkerchief. No one wanted to touch it. The story, that is.

It's just harder to get away with this shit now with social media. At least they have to try and cover it up????? I still don't think anything will come of it.

You got it right on.

[Gabi Hayes]

34. interesting thread from late April. seen through the lens of the recent past,

it puts things in a different perspective, when the nomination was less of a sure thing.

here's an excellent link from the thread, with work from Ring of Fire's Mike Papantonio, plus Thom Hartmann:



There is a pending lawsuit against the US Goverment over Epstein and his pedophile cases.

If Epstein had been properly prosecuted, he would have possibly received life. There were at least 40 victims confirmed by the FBI. However, Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's attorney, conspired with the U.S. Attorney, and got Epstein a slap on the wrist. In the deal, none of Epstein's co-conspirators would be prosecuted. No doubt Dershowitz was thinking of himself, since he has been named as one of the men, one of the victims, Virginia Roberts, had to have sex with.

There are people in the Alternative Media that have been covering this case since its inception. This is a far greater crime than what is occurring with Bill Cosby. This involves children. But because the Epstein scandal involves powerful people of both political parties, the Mainstream Media is not covering it. The pending lawsuit against the government is online. Virginia Roberts is the plaintiff.

Here are Ring of Fire's Mike Papantonio and Thom Hartmann explaining the lawsuit.

Here is a more thorough analysis, linked below:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-El2qydY1kxo/Uy1Z4qznfUI/AAAAAAAALnw

[Nevernose]

40. I can't get that link to work

Do you have an alternative?

[Gabi Hayes]

45. checking wayback machine....found this so far.....it's got my ORIGINAL OP quote from this thread:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-El2qydY1kxo/Uy1Z4qznfUI/AAAAAAAALnw/3jLfVXKGhfg/s1600/prince+andrew,+donald+trump,+alan+dershowitz,+george+mitchell,+bill+clinton,+jimmy+cayne,+jeffrey+epstein.jpg

looking for more

just about anything I've found that has anything to do with 1.bp.blogspot.com leads to right wing bullshit sites....usually to do with pedophilia-attached-to-Clinton......no trump mention at all; some with Epstein

there's a link to dailycaller, a very right wing "news" site, and I came up with this as a result, which shows some other bogus news creating vehicle talking over yahoo and aol news:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/24/1338948/-What-s-Up-With-GOP-Yahoo-and-Wochit
V V V V
The GOP Has A New Propaganda Vehicle

[Gabi Hayes]

37. I'm just going to repost this one from a previous post, in case people are only reading from the

bottom:

''Doe says that Trump then allowed Epstein to rape her twice and strike her...

....Epstein apparently angrily screamed his regrets that Trump took her virginity instead of him.''

https://usuncut.com/news/trump-lawsuit-13-year-old-rape/

[Laffy Kat]

50. I hope this just catches fire.

Hopefully, reporters are just dotting their i's and crossing their t's first.

[L. Coyote]

59. Link to this thread in social media.

Today, everyone is a reporter and this is a good counter to some of the crazy talking points and memes being spread about.

[napkinz]

83. I replied to another thread about this subject.

I remember when Trump said he could shoot someone and his supporters wouldn't care. It seems like Trump could do many heinous things and neither his supporters nor the MSM would pay any heed.

[Gabi Hayes]

85. the shooting quote got lots of play in the media, but not much substantive commentary on, like,

how INSANE a comment that was, but there has been NO coverage, no discussion of the mere fact that papers have been filed, except in a few papers, mostly in Florida.

NOTHING on the airwaves/cable

complete blackout

just as what happened with BushAWOL

[Gabi Hayes]

51. uh oh...don't like the looks of this. after googling 'trump rape 2016,' this was one of the 1st

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to come up

EDIT, the site I just took down said ''theguardian.com.'' when I went back, it messed up my computer, so I shut down. this quote is from the site, before it started with the warning bells:

Rape lawsuits against Donald Trump linked to former TV producer

Norm Lubow, formerly a producer on the Jerry Springer show, apparently coordinated lawsuits accusing Donald Trump of raping a child in the 1990s

it looks really bad, til the very end, when they discuss the New York filing, then have a quote from Jane Doe, from, unfortunately, a phone belonging to somebody who appears to be an alter ego of the above-mentioned Lubow. He sounds pretty insane in the body of the article, very much like Trump's own alter egos, John Miller and John Barron.

if any body else cares, try this, noting the complete absence of any mainstream print, radio, or tv outlets:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=trump+epstein+rape+filing+june+2016&tbm=nws

[pnwmom]

56. The Guardian is a mainstream publication, one of the better outlets in England.

I don't know why you're having trouble with the link. Here it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow

[Rex]

65. Check this video about Trump from Democracy Now!

This is amazing, Trump is the biggest crook ever! I always new he was a long con artist, but wow.

[Gabi Hayes]

92. well, of course, the answer to that is....

who's Amy Goodman?....I kid.... this will never see the light of day on regular or cable tv.

they show her on my 2d tier PBS stations, one only over the air, but his stories, just like AWOL, go nowhere.

[L. Coyote]

54. Why aren't Republicans holding an emergency Congressional hearing?

You can bet they are holding an emergency back room meeting!!!!

[Gabi Hayes]

58. perhaps they feel as confident as Epstein did after he fixed his plea bargain.

between their hold on the courts and the media, who knows what will come of this.

as I've mentioned before, there was no DOUBT that dumbo was AWOL, had convictions scrubbed from his Texas driver's license, at the very
LEAST(*).... and they had things rigged well enough to get Dan Rather FIRED, along with Mary Mapes

lord knows what strings are being pulled behind the scenes. sort of makes one feel a bit......paranoid, hmmmm?

*I have second hand knowledge someone in the know told me about why he had to do community service in Houston

this might pique your interest, vis a vis the asterisked sentence:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2956067

[Rex]

64. Too busy coming up with new ways to spend and borrow.

Trump told them to play nice or else.

[Rex]

63. Wow, I hope this has legs and goes to court.

Trump is a creepy shit. Epstein is a predator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach police and alleged her 14-year-old daughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl and paid $300 after stripping and massaging him.[10] She had undressed, but left on her underwear.[19]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. Subsequently, they alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and seventeen witnesses under oath, a high-school transcript and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some girls were under 18.[20] A search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom had been interviewed earlier by the police.[19] Papers filed in 2006 state that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places in his property to record sex between prominent people and underage prostitutes for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[21]

[Gabi Hayes]

73. the worst part of this, aside from the vile acts committed against underage victims,

was the corrupt plea bargain

there's a pending lawsuit regarding this:

read the whole thing, unless you already have high blood pressure....it's make you SWEAR OUT LOUD!!!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-jeffrey-epstein-victims-settlement-20160520-story.html

scroll down for this part, but you need to read the whole story

By law, prosecutors have absolute discretion to decide whether or not they have enough evidence and a sufficient likelihood of conviction to file criminal charges against a suspect. Prosecutors are also free to make plea agreements with suspects or decline to prosecute them.

But federal crime victim legislation, enacted in 2004 under President George W. Bush, also requires the U.S. Department of Justice to be more than mindful of victims' rights. Prosecutors are legally required to confer with victims, keep them informed about key court dates and ensure they are allowed to speak at plea hearings, sentencings, parole hearings and other important events.

"Sadly … when the government began handling this case, it did precisely what Congress thought it had forbidden. The government deliberately kept crime victims 'in the dark' so that it could enter into a plea arrangement designed to prevent the victims from raising any objection," lawyers Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassell wrote in court records.

"Victims of crime are not treated fairly if prosecutors are deceiving them about what is going on with regard to prosecuting their abusers. Whatever else 'fairness' might mean, it has to at least mean that the government keep the victims properly informed and otherwise try to ensure that their interests are respected in the criminal justice process," the lawyers wrote in court filings.

Federal prosecutors engaged in "outrageous behavior" in 2007 and 2008 when they went out of their way to conceal from victims that they were negotiating "one of the most extraordinarily lenient plea arrangements in American history," Edwards and Cassell wrote in court records. The office was led at the time by former U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta. Prosecutors themselves designated Jane Does 1 and 2 as victims during the Epstein investigation, which began in 2005, the victims' lawyers wrote.

I wish I hadn't even found this

if you want to get even angrier:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=epstein+plea+bargain+victim+lawsuit

[Gabi Hayes]

74. July 5, 2016: No deal in Jeffery Epstein victims’ lawsuit against federal prosecutors

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/no-deal-in-jeffery-epstein-victims-lawsuit-against/nrsSj/

the crux, which is insanely outrageous, considering the 2004 law cited in above post:

Plaintiff Attorney Bradley...

.....Edwards acknowledged progress was been made since the first negotiating session with Brannon in May. But, he said, major sticking points remain. Prosecutors, he said, disagree with his claim that Epstein’s victims should have been notified of the non-prosecution deal before it was approved.

according to the same link cited in previous post (Sun Sentinel), this will now move to a BENCH trial, NOT before a jury. what is it going to take?

unless the fix is in again, I don't see how on earth the so-called defense is going to find a way to negate the intent of the 2004 law.

[Oneironaut]

77. Starting to wonder if there's something to this.

Bill Clinton should be investigated too. All of Epstein's powerful friends should be.

This was allowed for so long because the underclass are second class citizens. The rich feel entitled to us peasants. I don't know if Trump did this, but others certainly have without remorse. They hide behind their money and tell themselves that poor people are simply inanimate playthings to be used and discarded.

[Gabi Hayes]

88. they need a special prosecutor/commission to investigate the sweet plea deal Epstein got;

something similar to the 1969 situation in Illinois, when future SCOTUS Justice John Paul Stevens got two corrupt Illinois Supreme Court justices to resign for taking bribes while ruling on a case before them:

In 1969, a distinguished but hardly famous Chicago attorney named John Paul Stevens was appointed to represent the Greenberg Commission, which was investigating charges that two members of the Illinois Supreme Court had been bribed by a bank that was involved in a case before the justices.

Stevens’ vigorous prosecution of the two justices and the commission’s subsequent condemnatory report caused the men to resign and gave Stevens a national profile.

By the end of 1975, Stevens had been appointed as an associate justice of the United States Supreme Court. When he retired in 2010, Stevens was the third-longest serving justice in the nation’s history.

http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2015/09/17/chicagos-john-paul-stevens-unexpected-justice

care to guess what these crooked judges were prosecuted for?

[skip fox]

78. Is there an Ailes-Epstein connection?

??????

Trump is said to "have something on Ailes." Could sex with underaged females be it?

[Sunlei]

79. The case is filed, here are the court documents.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits#fullscreen

[Gabi Hayes]

86. time for bed.....speaking of which....

how do monsters like those two sleep at night?

[Calculating]

89. Easily

They're sociopaths who don't feel emotions like normal human beings. To them, we're nothing more than farm animals to be used however they see fit.

[Gabi Hayes]

91. exactly correct, or cogs in an inhuman machine

Chaplin's life was turned upside down by Hoover's obsession with him, starting even before the FBI was established. he had a file going on him from around 1917 or so, based on the anti American nature of his films!

not joking. he was PISSED that chaplin never became an American, and eventually used that fact to keep him from returning when he went to England in the early fifties

[Gabi Hayes]

90. Is it time to bring out the rape charge, now that they've pulled the Nixon lawnorder card

why not? FORCE the media to deal with it....they have not even mention that an actual lawsuit as been FILED?

sooner, not later. for those who remember 68, that's how the dems lost. with no internet, ALL they had was TV/radio/papers, and the visuals were frightening to the uninformed and frightened

this is what's happening today

[Gabi Hayes]

95. 'tolled' you

tolling may play a role in this

http://lawnewz.com/celebrity/why-isnt-anyone-paying-attention-to-the-sexual-assault-lawsuit-against-trump/

By contrast, Trump’s statute of limitations drama is actually far more unusual. Trump’s anonymous accuser has alleged that the Donald raped her back in 1994, when she was thirteen, and that the 20-year statute of limitations never even started running. Ms. Doe argues that the statute is “tolled” because Trump threatened her. Sidebar: tolling statutes of limitation is standard practice in a variety of instances. For example, if a plaintiff is a minor when a cause of action arises, that statute could be stopped (or “tolled”) until the potential plaintiff reaches the age of majority. The same concept works when a plaintiff is incarcerated or is mentally disabled. The concept of tolling is to hit “pause” on a lawsuit for the purpose of effectuating fairness to disadvantaged plaintiff. Statutes of limitation are also tolled when their reason for suing is obscured (as in the case of a medical malpractice victim who does not discover a surgical tool accidentally left inside him until years after the wrongdoing actually happened) or when they are prevented from bringing suit for some other reason. That’s this plaintiff’s sweet spot.

According to the plaintiff, Trump threatened to harm or even kill her and her family if she came forward with any accusations:

“Any statute of limitations … is tolled owing to the continuous and active duress imposed upon Plaintiff by Defendants that effectively robbed Plaintiff of her free will to commence legal action until the present time. More particularly, Plaintiff was unrelentingly threatened by each Defendant that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse caused to her by Defendants, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. The duress has not terminated and the fear has not subsided. The duress … rose to such a level that a person of reasonable firmness in Plaintiff’s situation would have been unable to resist.”

That’s a pretty mammoth claim. Trump is certainly powerful enough to have exerted 22 years of duress on someone. Alternatively, the whole thing could be fabricated. Trump’s attorneys have vehemently denied the allegations, even have gone so far to say they may go after the lawyer who filed the lawsuit. Either way, though, it’s alarming that this isn’t daily, front-page news. People say all sorts of things in the media, but when a federal lawsuit is filed, that’s a little different

[L. Coyote]

96. K & R

[napkinz]

97. still nothing from the MSM

are they waiting until after the election?

[Gabi Hayes]

98. you went along willingly, with every lie, slander, misstatement about the clintons.

when are you even going to mention this court case, along with the current statements of Jill Harth, and the deposition of his WIFE about the sexual assaults?

hmmmm?

Fools for Scandal, except for trump, eh?

http://store.harpers.org/products/fools-for-scandal-how-the-media-invented-whitewater

[Rex]

100. They only do witch hunts when there is a (D) attached to the name.

Our media is scandalous. They collect a paycheck and push FUD.

[Gabi Hayes]

101. are you enjoying the pushing of the "trump's great kids" narrative. EVERYbody

agrees that they're so wonderful, just as not one single reporter/bobblehead disagreed that Demosthenes was reborn as Melania

[Rex]

99. Why has the mainstream media helped the GOP for decades? Why does it never get brought up much?

Our corporate media is pathetic.

[Gabi Hayes]

102. same reason, basically, that both parties refuse to take the money out of campaign

financing

media aren't going to tell the truth about themselves, are they?

read Rich Media, Poor Democracy, by Robert McChesney, if you suffer from low blood pressure

[napkinz]

103. Cenk Uygur goes after Trump on the rape case, takes on nutcase Alex Jones

see at 1:25 in the video

[napkinz]

104. where are the calls to LOCK HIM UP!

[AgadorSparticus]

105. What a monster. I hope this comes out in spectacular fashion in October.

Holy shit.....

[Gabi Hayes]

106. pretty amazing this hasn't been mentioned even one time on any news show

anybody ever seen a word about this?

vince foster has been brought up how many times in this cycle?

[Gabi Hayes]

107. there might be some Jill harth stuff in here....got a new computer, and can't link favorites yet

still looking, but this subject has been broached again today, and there's lots of stuff here

[Gabi Hayes]

108. Back from the shadows again

[Gabi Hayes]

109. Not showing up at GD

????

[Gabi Hayes]

110. For old times sake

Gee, this went far, didn’t it it; but......Hillary’s emails!