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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPres. Obama: "I'm ready to pass the baton, and I KNOW that Hillary is ready to take it..."
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)But to whose benefit?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I so enjoyed that!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)brer cat
(24,559 posts)K&R
calimary
(81,220 posts)I think that's the same thing she wore earlier today, in her campaign event with President Obama. I think that's also the same pink (or fuchsia?) outfit that she wore when the photo was taken that MSNBC now uses as a Hillary avatar on election nights and poll graphics.
Just a little frivolity. I like to frivol every so often - to reference the late great Gary Owens!
But there is something kind of ridiculous about it - in one respect. I just inadvertently proved that women can be, and ARE, judged by their appearance. Woman politicians, too. Watch for it to accelerate through the rest of election season AND into a first term of presidency. There will be people quipping all over the place about how she's dressed. What she's wearing. WHO she's wearing (did she "Wear American"?), and beyond. You've seen what other First Ladies get. Hell, those of us old enough to remember the 90s can remember how Hillary, too, had lots of people critiquing how she dressed. The uproar over her headbands. Headbands???? Are you freakin' kidding me???? And the pants suits. And her hair. Her business attire and her formal wear. And remember how Laura Bush was often criticized for "wearing the upholstery?" And the whole "Reagan Red" thing that dominated Nancy Reagan's designer closet - to the point that if a woman reporter wanted to get called on during one of Ronnie's press conferences, she strategically wore red to work that day. I'm old enough to remember First Lady Jackie Kennedy. She was probably the most fashionable First Lady EVER, and MAN was that news. Made Oleg Cassini a household name.
Frivolous as hell, ridiculously superficial, but there it is. Maggie Thatcher's favorite skirted-suit color put a new word into popular culture: aubergine (a very dark plum, eggplant color). Former French prez Sarkozy married the haute fashionable supermodel Carla Bruni. While she wasn't a head of state, everything and anything Princess Diana wore was huge news. And Michelle Obama's style, both in business and formal AND casual dress has made a lot of news, starting from the famous factoid that part of her first outfit on Inauguration Morning came from J. Crew. But you just watch. WHATEVER Hillary wears will be of great interest and great controversy I'm sure. PARTICULARLY as President. And it will be MOST interesting to observe the difference in coverage and weight of importance between what's given to a woman President and what's given to the men, and what level of nitpicking will be involved. Even while trivial, this, too, is breaking new and historic ground.
By the way, I happen to find Hillary's style completely workable and flattering for her age, profession, figure, and body type. I like that fuchsia outfit with the black pants. When I was working every day, I had my own version of it.
brer cat
(24,559 posts)but we are all probably guilty of it to a degree. I certainly notice what she is wearing, and the fuchia/black suit is one of my favorites on her. She dresses beautifully and appropriately, yet she doesn't have a haute couture look like so many wealthy women do. To me, she always looks comfortable, not like she is trying to project a certain image.
It is going to be very interesting to see what gets air time and criticism when she is in the White House.
calimary
(81,220 posts)She'll face the "oh, she's wearing THAT again?" and on the flip side "how-the-hell many outfits does that woman HAVE, anyway? How much is she spending on her clothes while so many Americans go hungry?" Hillary is probably used to it by now. We're all fortunate that, at least from what we know, it doesn't seem to phase her. After all, she's gonna have to deal with Putin, ISIS, North Korea, and God only knows who/what else. She better be cool and steady and unruffled. Just another one of hundreds of reasons why Trump would not just be bad, he'd be a frickin' World-Class DISASTER!!!!!
It's gonna be a whole new era, paradigm, template, whatever you call it, when a woman wins the Presidency. On levels never before imagined, large and small, globally important and micro-miniscule.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Presidents have taken over after someone from their party died (Truman, LBJ) or was forced out (Ford), but only Reagan succesfully stayed around and passed on the presidency to a successor.
If they can manage it - and it looks like the chances of that are about 75-80% - then it will be a really historic achievement.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Still, whatever the final outcome, she will already have made history in many ways.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Our president is a better "Great Communicator" than Bill Clinton and ronald reagan COMBINED. That's one of reagan's long-recognized nicknames, but Barack Obama stole the rights to it well before the first time he ever set foot inside the Oval Office.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Not easy to follow his amazing act.
That's why it's SO fantastic that he's all in for HER and will have her back all the way to November.