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Original Downing Street Memo now declassified (Original Post) deminks Jul 2016 OP
Downing St. Memo. Bookmarking underpants Jul 2016 #1
confirmation..... spanone Jul 2016 #2
"The case was thin" so they fattened it up with lies. suffragette Jul 2016 #11
5000 dead military professionals later... Rex Jul 2016 #12
Exactly so. And we shouted it in the streets and marched. But they were never suffragette Jul 2016 #19
This also makes the mainstream media culpable. They purposely pushed for war. Rex Jul 2016 #20
Yes, indeed. Judith Miller is certainly the most notorious, being at the center of WMD and suffragette Jul 2016 #21
It says Iraq had less WMD capability than Libya and was not threatening its neighbors. KeepItReal Jul 2016 #3
Doesn't it say that they set out to cook the whole thing up? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #8
It does, many of us thought it would and were ridiculed for bringing it up. Rex Jul 2016 #9
Boom! Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #14
Some of my relatives were praying for a bloodbath. Rex Jul 2016 #16
I so remember this site. David Swanson babylonsister Jul 2016 #4
K&R PatSeg Jul 2016 #5
Wow. Rex Jul 2016 #6
bmking. Thanks! lonestarnot Jul 2016 #7
Downing Street Memo. I'm getting my Blair/Bush/Cheney rage on again. oasis Jul 2016 #10
There are few things that I have ever been upset about... Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #17
DU had a quote straight out of the memo at the time. "facts being fixed around the policy." lonestarnot Jul 2016 #13
I'm sick of being right. I want some people in The Hague NightWatcher Jul 2016 #15
I am never right, so I don't need to be sick from that. I am always left and very fucking proud of lonestarnot Jul 2016 #18
Thank you, deminks! Octafish Jul 2016 #22
K&R&bookmark JEB Jul 2016 #23
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. 5000 dead military professionals later...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jul 2016

And millions of dead natives. WE WERE RIGHT. It was an illegal invasion! And they knew it!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
19. Exactly so. And we shouted it in the streets and marched. But they were never
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jul 2016

Going to pay us any heed.

They had the plan and bent and invented stories to pursue it. Then lined their pockets with riches bought from others' pain.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. This also makes the mainstream media culpable. They purposely pushed for war.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jul 2016

They had to know this information. So many hands dripping with blood.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
21. Yes, indeed. Judith Miller is certainly the most notorious, being at the center of WMD and
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jul 2016

Plame and even that odd communication with David Kelly.

But she was far from alone.

And, yes, their hands are crusted with blood.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. Doesn't it say that they set out to cook the whole thing up?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jul 2016

Right there in black and white.

"We should work up a plan..."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. It does, many of us thought it would and were ridiculed for bringing it up.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

Basically it lays out the plan to force Iraq to 'attack' troops already stationed there to start the war. Amazing, all there in black and white.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
14. Boom!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jul 2016

Sorry you were ridiculed, I know just how you feel.

My ridicule (at the time of the run-up to the disastrous invasion) concerned the whole WMD thing...I would tell my friends and family that there is no way they thought Hussein had any big stockpiles of nuclear weapons. I knew he didn't have any so-called WMD, and at time, and now, I was a Missouri housewife. The reason I knew this was really very simple...nuclear weaponry is not produced and placed on a shelf for twenty or thirty years. It is produced and put to use. They may have had some components, but no way they could have quickly detonated a nuclear device. It just doesn't work that way.

My friends and family were just as certain that I was wrong.

I must say the black and white confirmation is, sadly, a little satisfying.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Some of my relatives were praying for a bloodbath.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jul 2016

They enjoyed watching shock and awe. They didn't care if he was involved in 9-11 or anything else. They heard Saddam tried to kill Dubya's daddy!

I hope this memo leads to criminal charges, it is a long time coming.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
17. There are few things that I have ever been upset about...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jul 2016

That still bring back the original rage. The Iraq War, and everything about it, is one of those things.

I remember days where I thought I was losing my mind. And then, I found the Democratic Underground, and I knew that the things that were happening politically were wrong, and I was not the only one who understood that fact. This place was an oasis for me.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
13. DU had a quote straight out of the memo at the time. "facts being fixed around the policy."
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jul 2016

We always had the inside scoop right here.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. I'm sick of being right. I want some people in The Hague
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jul 2016

We screamed this from the highest mountain tops before the first US soldiers were killed.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
18. I am never right, so I don't need to be sick from that. I am always left and very fucking proud of
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jul 2016

that. We did not get on the rooftop and yell throughout the neighborhood for fear of black helicopters. That fucking twit had the reins, drove the horses right of the fucking cliff without fear of repercussion to his historical fucking reckless spoiled brat richie rich bullshit.

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