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struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:15 PM Jul 2016

Former police chief talks about domestic terrorism in Ozarks (MO)

By Stephanie Garland, KSPR News
Posted: Tue 6:23 PM, Jul 05, 2016 | Updated: Tue 7:01 PM, Jul 05, 2016

SEYMOUR, Mo. (KSPR) - A former police chief of West Memphis, Ark., Bob Paudert, says thousands of home grown domestic terrorists are in the greater Springfield area.

Paudert now travels the country warning officers and deputies how to recognize anti-government people calling themselves Sovereign Citizens. He warns that these people hate law enforcement and anyone who works for the government ...

He said recruitment is up in the Ozarks.

"The Midwest is known for white supremacist, sovereigns, these anti-government groups in these hills. They have their compounds,” Paudert said. “So, yes, there are quite a few around here" ...


http://www.kspr.com/content/news/Fmr-Chief-talks-domestic-terrorism-in-Ozarks-385623561.html

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Former police chief talks about domestic terrorism in Ozarks (MO) (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2016 OP
For Sale Sign? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #1
They occupy vacant for-sale properties, removing the signs and claiming ownership pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #6
For sale sign in car? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #9
Some of that thought process may be behind the crazy events Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #11
Sovreign Citizens are a group of people scattered across the country TheDebbieDee Jul 2016 #2
They don't trust the federal government enough separate themselves from it, kentauros Jul 2016 #8
It's dissonance... And some of these Sovreign Citizens TheDebbieDee Jul 2016 #14
Thanks for the correction. kentauros Jul 2016 #19
Yeah his son paid the ultimate price 47of74 Jul 2016 #3
Tried to find out what the for sale sign meant Lordquinton Jul 2016 #4
I tried to watch awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #5
This is the closest I came to figuring out the "For Sale" sign thing justiceischeap Jul 2016 #10
If any of these dumb fucks lillypaddle Jul 2016 #12
Yep. Lordquinton Jul 2016 #17
Lololololol! Thank you SO much for posting that video! TheDebbieDee Jul 2016 #15
Confrontations with actual domestic terrorists Lordquinton Jul 2016 #18
There is Sherman A1 Jul 2016 #7
K & R malaise Jul 2016 #13
Do the Ozarks attract hate groups? loyalsister Jul 2016 #16

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
1. For Sale Sign?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jul 2016
Paudert said sovereign citizens will have bumper stickers showing the American flag upside down. Their car will be marked as private property with no-trespassing signs, and there will even be for-sale signs in the car.


What's up with the "For Sale" sign thing?

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
11. Some of that thought process may be behind the crazy events
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jul 2016

that have occurred in my community. Lots of collusion between residents to avoid financial responsibilities for personal benefit. They also work together to take over common ground areas.

And these land take-overs have included people who have jobs with the city.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
2. Sovreign Citizens are a group of people scattered across the country
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jul 2016

who have bought into the claim by some moron who wrote a book that there is a secret account administered by the US Government that was left by the founding fathers to pay the debts of REAL American citizens. These funds can only be accessed by writing a secret code on your tax return or filing some obscure IRS form or something.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
8. They don't trust the federal government enough separate themselves from it,
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 05:20 AM
Jul 2016

by calling themselves "Sovereign Citizens" and yet, they believe that the very same government keeps this money for them. I take it they are unfamiliar with the concept of cognitive dissidence (maybe that should be spelled "dissidense&quot

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
14. It's dissonance... And some of these Sovreign Citizens
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jul 2016

are ready to fight the government and government workers to keep the fraudulent tax refunds that they get back...

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
19. Thanks for the correction.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jul 2016

I knew something was wrong, and yet the spelling was right. Just not the correct word. I guess because the words have similar basic meanings

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
4. Tried to find out what the for sale sign meant
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jul 2016

no luck, but there are compilation videos of these guys getting owned by the cops they try to boondoggle.

Here's one, starts with a bang and then these guys just get more and more pathetic:

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. I tried to watch
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jul 2016

but these people are pathetic. "I do not consent"- shut the fuck up. These same fuckers celebrate when the pigs kill a black man.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
10. This is the closest I came to figuring out the "For Sale" sign thing
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jul 2016
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/republic-united-states-america-plagued-criminality

I can't copy and paste from this site on my phone but they take for sale signs from properties, claim squatters rights basically and keep the for sale signs in their cars?
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
15. Lololololol! Thank you SO much for posting that video!
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016

But, in the last 2 years, I've seen videos of African-Americans shot and killed for resisting FAR less than the people in these videos. These SovCits are total pains in the ass!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
16. Do the Ozarks attract hate groups?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jul 2016


The region, like a good soil, provides some of the main nutrients needed to sustain hate groups, he said.

The area has a predominantly white population, conservative religious views and a general attitude that government should stay out of people's business.

"A certain portion of the population, they don't want to be told by the government who they should like or dislike," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/20/ozarks-hate-groups-frazier-glenn-cross/7938799/



I am also curious about the intersection of poor whites, racism, and meth. That region is riddled with meth producers and users. The movie "Winter's Bone" presents an interesting image of the culture that has emerged from it. Where do poor white people with no one to blame but their own families find a scapegoat?
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