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Hate to ask this.. (Original Post) busterbrown Jul 2016 OP
No information on that yet. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #1
I think the right is hoping it's a black person or a Muslim... Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #2
I think this is spot on. GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #6
Unity! lol Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #7
at that point CIA AntiBank Jul 2016 #19
yes. the RW is predictable now GreatGazoo Jul 2016 #24
I think the left hopes it is not Muslims to slow down the violence. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #10
No, they both have identical reasons. Marr Jul 2016 #16
Do you think liberals do it out of hate of whites? Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #17
No. We do not want the black lives lost to be dismissed or excused away. There is an issue? seabeyond Jul 2016 #29
And there are racist posters here hoping the shooters are white. Ace Rothstein Jul 2016 #3
What if it is a mixed group of folks? We should wait and see what Dallas PD discovers. Rex Jul 2016 #4
It may be a mix. roamer65 Jul 2016 #5
oh boy... busterbrown Jul 2016 #8
I missed the presser - diaper change and feeding time per the local dictator herding cats Jul 2016 #9
The shooter barricaded up in the parking garage...is screaming 'the end is near"... roamer65 Jul 2016 #12
...For law enforcement officers. Not the world. grossproffit Jul 2016 #13
K...the info is coming pretty quickly and is not always accurate. roamer65 Jul 2016 #15
Thank you! herding cats Jul 2016 #14
I kept waiting for them to say or for a reporter to ask about the shooters' race. Didn't happen. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #11
Watching the Tour De France..with wife.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #18
And another segment sarisataka Jul 2016 #20
No one is overlooking cops being killed for cops. The lives lost matter. Horrible situation all seabeyond Jul 2016 #30
I imagine the other segment is hoping that to better avoid sweeping blame rather than to assign it. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #43
IMO whoever sarisataka Jul 2016 #45
What gunmen? Where? SheilaT Jul 2016 #21
On this, you don't have to be leftynyc Jul 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #22
Thanks for your suggestion.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #25
Here's a safe prediction Proud Public Servant Jul 2016 #26
Very true. N/t roamer65 Jul 2016 #27
Horrible question. I have been hunting the information too before going to work. seabeyond Jul 2016 #28
Helter Skelter. That's what one of my clients said to me this morning. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #31
Hey SB. The mayor of Dallas was just on TV and Joe and Mika Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #36
Interesting. Thanks. The only liberal in the office, and not ever talking politics, these seabeyond Jul 2016 #37
Well, on the other hand....there may be an outside chance they are right wing Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #38
In grocery store, Fox headline. Wanted to kill white cops. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #40
I am a Californian stuck in Texas. The panhandle at that. seabeyond Jul 2016 #41
oh shit....it's coming back to me now. I live 20 miles Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #44
It's a horrible question, but a good one. The answer is "it doesn't matter" Bucky Jul 2016 #32
What ethnicity are you hoping for? egduj Jul 2016 #33
What if they are? Is "racist America" bothered by murderous White cops? WinkyDink Jul 2016 #35
Sad reflection of humanity... Lancero Jul 2016 #39
Well Stated.. busterbrown Jul 2016 #42
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. I think the right is hoping it's a black person or a Muslim...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jul 2016

And tbh, many on the left are probably hoping it's a white person.

Both for different reasons. I think the left wants it to be a white person to deflect from the hate other minority groups have received in response to these types of acts and the right wants it to be a black person or a Muslim to reinforce their hatred.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
6. I think this is spot on.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jul 2016

It's currently believed to be a group of 4 people. I wonder how people would react if it was 2 white people and 2 black people?

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
24. yes. the RW is predictable now
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:59 AM
Jul 2016

If shooters are caucasian then they will say this is 'Obama's false flag to grab guns.'

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
10. I think the left hopes it is not Muslims to slow down the violence.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:57 AM
Jul 2016

The right hopes its Muslims to increase the violence.

The right here are agreeing with ISIS. There is a need for more violence.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
17. Do you think liberals do it out of hate of whites?
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jul 2016

Because I'm pretty sure the right is hoping for it due to their hatred of blacks and Muslims.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. What if it is a mixed group of folks? We should wait and see what Dallas PD discovers.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:51 AM
Jul 2016

Fuck the RWing morons and their gun fetish.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. It may be a mix.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jul 2016

From the apocalyptic talk of the one shooter, I am suspecting some sort of religious cult.

Just like the Toyko subway Ricin attack.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
9. I missed the presser - diaper change and feeding time per the local dictator
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jul 2016

What apocalyptic talk, please?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
12. The shooter barricaded up in the parking garage...is screaming 'the end is near"...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:58 AM
Jul 2016

...apocalyptic talk and bombs are everywhere downtown.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
14. Thank you!
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:01 AM
Jul 2016

I'm playing catch up currently. No tv in here and I was busy with other things.

I appreciate your help.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
18. Watching the Tour De France..with wife..
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jul 2016

Please let us know.. Trying to keep occupied.. Love this event though..

sarisataka

(18,627 posts)
20. And another segment
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jul 2016

has equally fervent hope that the shooters are white.

Overlooked is the fact that persons are killing cops for being cops. That is not any more acceptable than cops shooting people for being black.

Sadly the two killings that triggered the protest are all but forgotten...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
30. No one is overlooking cops being killed for cops. The lives lost matter. Horrible situation all
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:20 AM
Jul 2016

around.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. I imagine the other segment is hoping that to better avoid sweeping blame rather than to assign it.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jul 2016

I imagine the other segment is hoping that to better avoid the consistent and sweeping blame rather than to assign it. I don't however, assign the same motives or the sincerity to anyone hoping the shooters are black.

sarisataka

(18,627 posts)
45. IMO whoever
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jul 2016

Has done this is a vicious group of killers who represent no one besides themselves. Whomever they claim to support is likely as revolted by the killings as the general population.

Whether the perpetrators are white, black or any other color, they have made an awful situation worse. The brunt of the fallout will disproportionately fall on the black community.

As for assigning sweeping blame. A quick perusal of internet site reveals that some already are saying 'even if the shooters are x they are part if a false flag, hired by y' Blamers will blame according to their prejudice.

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Response to busterbrown (Reply #23)

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
26. Here's a safe prediction
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:21 AM
Jul 2016

If they are black, they will treated as representatives of all black Americans.

If they are Muslim, they will be treated as representative of all Muslims.

If they are white, they will be "an isolated group of malcontents."

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. Horrible question. I have been hunting the information too before going to work.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:17 AM
Jul 2016

There is a reason, we all know what it is. They know, and they are not giving it out on newsfeed from what I see.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. Hey SB. The mayor of Dallas was just on TV and Joe and Mika
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jul 2016

tried to get the info on the shooters out of him and he wouldn't bite. I agree with you -- there is a reason they are keeping quiet.

Now, the only reason in my mind to keep quiet is if they are black. Because this could incite the crazy right wingnuts in TX and elsewhere. If the whole thing was totally unrelated and the suspects were not black - there would be no reason to keep that a secret.

The last thing the mayor said was, warning everyone, including the news to "choose their words carefully"

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
37. Interesting. Thanks. The only liberal in the office, and not ever talking politics, these
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

people are gonna come after me at work. Better to know.

I can see them not saying if white, but more likely, not talking, leads one to think they do not want the escalation with the rw nuts here in this state. I agree.

Knowing they are not saying anything matters too.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Well, on the other hand....there may be an outside chance they are right wing
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jul 2016

nuts -- to discredit BLM?

Sorry you are alone at work. thought you lived somewhere like Maine?? I am used to it - stuck in TX

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
44. oh shit....it's coming back to me now. I live 20 miles
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jul 2016

from Dimson's brush clearing ranch.

When I moved here and was going to the laundromat, they said, oh no, don't do that, water's not hot enough to get their germs out. Being from CT I was aghast.

think we need a forum for "those stuck in red states"

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
32. It's a horrible question, but a good one. The answer is "it doesn't matter"
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jul 2016

Whoever organized the mass murder of police in Dallas wants violence to break out between police and the black community. In that regard, they are the enemy of both the police and Black Lives Matter, which is an anti-violence movement.

The key signature demand of BLM is improved relations between the police and black America. Yesterday's ambush was the very definition of a false flag attack.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
39. Sad reflection of humanity...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:57 AM
Jul 2016

When both sides hope that the shooter is of a certain skin color.

One side can argue that their hope is for a desire to have a counterbalance, but it doesn't change the fact that each side has a 'preferred' skin color for a tragedy like this.

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