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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHate to ask this..
but racist america is so hoping that gunmen are of color..
Anyone know the status?
Horrible question..I realize..
but important..
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)And tbh, many on the left are probably hoping it's a white person.
Both for different reasons. I think the left wants it to be a white person to deflect from the hate other minority groups have received in response to these types of acts and the right wants it to be a black person or a Muslim to reinforce their hatred.
GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)It's currently believed to be a group of 4 people. I wonder how people would react if it was 2 white people and 2 black people?
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)If shooters are caucasian then they will say this is 'Obama's false flag to grab guns.'
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)The right hopes its Muslims to increase the violence.
The right here are agreeing with ISIS. There is a need for more violence.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Both want their narratives validated.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Because I'm pretty sure the right is hoping for it due to their hatred of blacks and Muslims.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,161 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Fuck the RWing morons and their gun fetish.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)From the apocalyptic talk of the one shooter, I am suspecting some sort of religious cult.
Just like the Toyko subway Ricin attack.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)horrible situation...horrible post i created but...
herding cats
(19,564 posts)What apocalyptic talk, please?
roamer65
(36,745 posts)...apocalyptic talk and bombs are everywhere downtown.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm playing catch up currently. No tv in here and I was busy with other things.
I appreciate your help.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Please let us know.. Trying to keep occupied.. Love this event though..
sarisataka
(18,627 posts)has equally fervent hope that the shooters are white.
Overlooked is the fact that persons are killing cops for being cops. That is not any more acceptable than cops shooting people for being black.
Sadly the two killings that triggered the protest are all but forgotten...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)around.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine the other segment is hoping that to better avoid the consistent and sweeping blame rather than to assign it. I don't however, assign the same motives or the sincerity to anyone hoping the shooters are black.
sarisataka
(18,627 posts)Has done this is a vicious group of killers who represent no one besides themselves. Whomever they claim to support is likely as revolted by the killings as the general population.
Whether the perpetrators are white, black or any other color, they have made an awful situation worse. The brunt of the fallout will disproportionately fall on the black community.
As for assigning sweeping blame. A quick perusal of internet site reveals that some already are saying 'even if the shooters are x they are part if a false flag, hired by y' Blamers will blame according to their prejudice.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)As odd as this might sound to you, not everyone is watching MSM 24/7.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)watching TV. I found out from a LBN post to my phone. But to catch up:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/philando-castile-alton-sterling-protests/
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busterbrown
(8,515 posts)but whats right for you is not necessarily right for me..
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Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)If they are black, they will treated as representatives of all black Americans.
If they are Muslim, they will be treated as representative of all Muslims.
If they are white, they will be "an isolated group of malcontents."
roamer65
(36,745 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)There is a reason, we all know what it is. They know, and they are not giving it out on newsfeed from what I see.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)tried to get the info on the shooters out of him and he wouldn't bite. I agree with you -- there is a reason they are keeping quiet.
Now, the only reason in my mind to keep quiet is if they are black. Because this could incite the crazy right wingnuts in TX and elsewhere. If the whole thing was totally unrelated and the suspects were not black - there would be no reason to keep that a secret.
The last thing the mayor said was, warning everyone, including the news to "choose their words carefully"
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)people are gonna come after me at work. Better to know.
I can see them not saying if white, but more likely, not talking, leads one to think they do not want the escalation with the rw nuts here in this state. I agree.
Knowing they are not saying anything matters too.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)nuts -- to discredit BLM?
Sorry you are alone at work. thought you lived somewhere like Maine?? I am used to it - stuck in TX
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)from Dimson's brush clearing ranch.
When I moved here and was going to the laundromat, they said, oh no, don't do that, water's not hot enough to get their germs out. Being from CT I was aghast.
think we need a forum for "those stuck in red states"
Bucky
(53,998 posts)Whoever organized the mass murder of police in Dallas wants violence to break out between police and the black community. In that regard, they are the enemy of both the police and Black Lives Matter, which is an anti-violence movement.
The key signature demand of BLM is improved relations between the police and black America. Yesterday's ambush was the very definition of a false flag attack.
egduj
(805 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)When both sides hope that the shooter is of a certain skin color.
One side can argue that their hope is for a desire to have a counterbalance, but it doesn't change the fact that each side has a 'preferred' skin color for a tragedy like this.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Great way to end thread...