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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is an easy way for cops everywhere to lower the tension with the community
Instead of closing ranks when one of their own turns out to be bad, choose to close ranks to squeeze the bad cop out.
Self police.
Shun bad cops.
Expel the 'roid raged.
Discard the cowboys, rambos, hot shots, and tough guys.
Let fellow officers do it. Let the police unions do it. Show that they're not at war with the community.
For every cop who sees every traffic stop for a busted taillight as a possible terrorist attack in progress, needing pulled weapons and lots of shouting, there should be a cadre of fellow officers who figuratively slap him on the back of his head and throw him out of the club.
It is possible that, someplace down the line, the community will stop protecting its own bad actors. But the cops have to go first. Really. That's where it needs to start.
D E - E S C A L A T E
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Rarely do we ever hear of a state trooper being involved with these types of situations. They are better screened. They screen out those people that want nothing more than to be a cop and carry a gun so they can have power over people. They might have a tough time keeping their forces filled, but at least some sanity would be restored.
drray23
(7,627 posts)I think that the training is the biggest issue. I know that it changed over the decades. now the emphasis is not in defusing situations, it is to take control of it. By that they mean speak with authority, even yell at people and ratchet it up if they do not obey within seconds. Do not listen to what they say, just make them comply with what you say. It's impossible to have an argument with a policeman. They will see that as a challenge and slam you to the ground or worse.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Oakland, CA, at one point, recruited good ol' boys from the Deep South to be cops - they deliberately wanted racist shitheads.
I wonder how it is in Maricopa County, under Joe Arpaio?
"Sorry Mr. Johnson. We've checked your background, and found that you do not have a history of domestic violence, and feel you won't be a good cultural fit in our department."
groundloop
(11,518 posts)You're absolutely correct, state troopers have a much better record of dealing with difficult situations than local police/sheriffs. I don't have any proof to back this up, but I have to wonder if the process of screening applicants and training them has taken a hit in recent years because of tax cuts and the resultant budget cuts.
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)That was from the 70's.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070666/
Police corruption and coverups are not new things, and people start to get defensive.
Your ideas are good, but...
rock
(13,218 posts)A sub-culture really. In any case all cultures are highly resistant to change, for an obvious reason: if a culture were to be easy to change it would disappear very quickly. The only thing that keeps a culture in existence is that resistance.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)officer who tried to clean up their ranks. Of all unions, police unions are the worst.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)and they should be dragged kicking and screaming in the process.
Police culture is the problem nobody seems to want to talk about regarding rampant police brutality.
It's rife with a tribal mentality depicting themselves as the good guys and citizens as the bad guys. They think they're under siege even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Personally, they're no better than the mafia in that whistleblowing is punishable by the death of one's career or even actual death. So, police culture has devolved to the level of secret societies at best or organized crime syndicates at worst IMO.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I agree 110%. No one can police the police without help from police unions who shield and protect their boys in blue. And they don't have to do much - just stand back and stop overprotecting and allow the higher-ups in the chains of command do what they're supposed to do.
It's the only way to DE - ESCALATE this frightening problem in our police corps.
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)...walking a beat again. Get out of there police units.
Bettie
(16,086 posts)but have very little hope of any change for the better.
If anything, this incident will cause them to close ranks and ratchet up the violence against perceived enemies. Sadly, that means the people of the communities they are supposed to serve, specifically those who are not-white.
Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)I have been saying this sadly now for years.
MOST law enforcement are good people, but even the good ones enable the bad ones by closing ranks as you noted.
There has to be a way to cut through it and engage law enforcement effectively to help weed out the ones who are on the edge and vulnerable to doing the kind of abhorrent things that we see in the instances leading up to this.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)even separate threads here on DU begin from opposite positions
De-escalation is a great start, communities should de-escalate too
Obama's 2014 task force recommendations need further publicity
I do understand the cops feel outgunned; it wasn't this way 25 or more years ago
I wonder if public service announcements on the 'rules of engagement' would help
some citizens aren't aware of what to expect with traffic stops for example
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)What about the "snitches get stitches" mentality in many communities? "instead of closing ranks when one of their own turns out to be bad, choose to close ranks and squeeze the bad actor out". Do you agree?