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kairos12

(12,851 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:02 AM Jul 2016

SCOTUS-Is it possible?

With the unending throwing of mud on HRC by the Reich Wing are they setting up the dynamic that, if elected, she would not considered to be a legitimate President and therefore boycotting of her nominations for SCOTUS would be justified. As I recall the filibuster is still in place for the Supreme Court. There is a time when I thought such action would be impossible, but now I'm not so sure.

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tritsofme

(17,373 posts)
3. If Republicans somehow manage to keep the Senate, you can bet that will happen.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jul 2016

If Demorats take the Senate, as is very likely, Schumer would not tolerate a SCOTUS filibuster and would assuredly press the nuclear button to kill it.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
4. Is I understand it, Senate rules are set at the beginning of each new Senate.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jul 2016

From Wikipedia:


The removal or substantial limitation of the filibuster is called the constitutional option by proponents, and the nuclear option by opponents. Under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to break the filibuster. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time.

On November 21, 2013, the Senate voted, in a 52 to 48 vote, to require only a majority vote to end a filibuster of certain executive and judicial nominees, not including Supreme Court nominees, rather than the 3/5 of votes previously required. A 3/5 supermajority is still required to end filibusters unrelated to those nominees.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster

If the Dems have an opportunity to substantially modify the filibuster and don't, would be proof positive that a bunch of them are R's in D clothing.

On edit: Much better article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate

CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
5. It is absolutely possible.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jul 2016


While we all hope (and will work to ensure) that Dems take control of the senate, it is completely unrealistic, if not impossible, to gain a filibuster proof majority.

I can already hear The Turtle standing at a podium in the rotunda explaining that there is no work more important to this senate than ensuring that the president is legally qualified to hold office. The country expects that we will leave no stone unturned making sure that the executive is free of any cloud over her head that could hurt the great institution that is the presidency. With that expectation in mind, we are putting aside all business until we can assure ourselves, and the american people, not just of her lack of guilt in a variety of matters, but of her true innocence.

And he'll do it with that f'ing smirk that says "yeah - I said it...now try to take me on". And we will sit and wait. And whenever he's pushed on something he'll ask "what could be more important to the country than confirming the innocence of our president". She has been guilty until proven innocent for 30 years and when she's in the oval, it's going to his steroids level.

The Turtle is such a f'ing asshat.

kairos12

(12,851 posts)
11. Not 8 years. This email and lying to Congress gambit is gathering the information for
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jul 2016

impeachment if she gets elected. They will hold out on SCOTUS until they impeach her. The Reich Wing is desperate and know they can't win the White House so they are now in denying the power of the White House to the Dems.

UTUSN

(70,672 posts)
7. If she wins, she will not only be gridlocked beyond OBAMA level, will be "investigated"in perpetuity
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jul 2016

and impeached. The first presidents to be Couple-Impeached. NOTE: My point is about wingnut chicanery, NOT about Hillary (& Bill).

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
9. Well then WE need to bust our asses and take back Congress
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jul 2016

You're absolutely correct, and in fact I sense that Hillary is currently being set-up for a 'lying to Congress' investigation. The ONLY way this bullshit can be prevented, and the ONLY way we'll ever see progress in this country, is to take back Congress.

lindysalsagal

(20,648 posts)
12. They'll try just to satisfy their donors. But at some point she'll shame them by name
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

And Congress will eventually, reluctantly, conduct some lame business. If nothing else good comes from fRump, they're realizing how pissed-off voters are. The fact that fRump isn't getting any GOP help(and neither did McCain) shows that they do have some accountability to voters.

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