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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:02 PM Jul 2016

No, really, George W. Bush lied about WMDs

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/9/12123022/george-w-bush-lies-iraq-war

The best estimates available suggest that more than 250,000 people have died as a result of George W. Bush and Tony Blair's decision to invade Iraq in 2003. A newly released investigative report from the UK government suggests that intelligence officials knew ahead of time that the war would cause massive instability and societal collapse and make the problem of terrorism worse — and that Blair and Bush went ahead with the effort anyway.

The correct response to this situation is to despair at the fact that the US and UK governments created such a horrific human tragedy for no good reason at all. However, partisan grudgefests run deep, and some on the right have argued that the UK’s Chilcot report proves the real dastardly actors are liberals who accused Bush and Blair not just of relying on faulty intelligence suggesting Iraq had WMDs but of lying about the intelligence they did have.

To some extent, this is beside the point; even if they had been totally cautious and careful in characterizing the intelligence, the war still would’ve been a catastrophic mistake that took an immense human toll. But the truth also matters, and the truth is that there were numerous occasions when Bush and his advisers made statements that intelligence agencies knew to be false, both about WMDs and about Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent links to al-Qaeda. The term commonly used for making statements that one knows to be false is "lying."...

The Bush administration on numerous occasions exaggerated or outright fabricated conclusions from intelligence in its public statements. Bush really did lie, and people really did die as a result of the war those lies were meant to build a case for. Those are the facts.
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No, really, George W. Bush lied about WMDs (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2016 OP
Has Bush ever been asked point blank...Why did you lie?.. Stuart G Jul 2016 #1
He'll deny it the way he always has lunatica Jul 2016 #6
"People lie all the time. So what?" OnyxCollie Jul 2016 #2
Never forget hibbing Jul 2016 #3
Th G.W. Bush gang of War riminals 90-percent Jul 2016 #4
He wasn't the only one. Scuba Jul 2016 #5
It was a slam dunk many a good man Jul 2016 #7

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
1. Has Bush ever been asked point blank...Why did you lie?..
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jul 2016

I wonder if he ever will be asked that..I doubt it.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
2. "People lie all the time. So what?"
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jul 2016

Response from my political science professor, circa 2008, when I brought up that the Bush administration might not have been truthful leading up to the Iraq war.

Stupid fucking arrogant, egotistical asshole.

He also said that the Bush administration was "scared" of Saddam Hussein, and that the Iraq war was the result of a "miscalculation" of Saddam's capabilities, just like the general political theory explained.

Case closed. Move along. Nothing to see here. (And no Master's degree for you, damn conspiracy theorist.)

Fuck him and the University of Akron.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
3. Never forget
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jul 2016

While the idiot son sits in his gated mansion and paints and the esteemed and respected Bush administration officials are called upon by the corporate media to provide insight and commentary about current foreign policy issue . Every one of them should be in jail.


Peace

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
4. Th G.W. Bush gang of War riminals
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jul 2016

Are of two distinct groups: Criminally psychotic or Criminally stupid

Ahhh, this isn't a good concept. I mention it only because I recently saw a Frontline episode - Where did ISIS come from. L. Paul Bremer is a real life Michel Scott from "The Office", he ran Iraq into the ground and ruined the future of Iraq and America's standing on the world stage. And he's proud of it to this day.

-90% Jimmy

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