Zero, that's ZERO mention in the MSM of recent presidential polls showing HRC pulling away

[Surya Gayatri]

from the toupéed fucktrumpet.

What might explain this sudden disinterest in the polls? Hum....?

Anything to keep up the pretense of a "horserace". If they just don't mention the dawning reality of a rout, maybe it'll go away.

La, la, la, I can't HEAR you.



Do NOT misinterpret this reality check as dangerous complacency. We must fight like we're 10 points down all the way to November 8th.

[redstateblues]

1. Rest assured the MSM will cooperate with the GOP

In trying to make Trump look palatable to the college educated female Rs. He is getting crushed in that demo. Hopefully the the HRC campaign will keep the pedal to the metal.

[Surya Gayatri]

5. There was a weekend interview with Fallon, Mook et al. and they seemed as serious as

a five-alarm fire about having to be constantly on their best game--having to continually counter the crap coming from the Dumpster's campaign.

They're on this...

[AllTooEasy]

24. why? There's better, more important stuff to report

1) The unwarranted Police shooting of Blacks
2) The unwarranted shooting of Dallas Police officers
3) The protests related to the above two news items
4) The President's Nuclear summit
5) The 287K new jobs added to the economy in June(which has been very much under reported)
6) Roger Ailes going down

I check Hillary's polls every day on RealClearPolitics.com...after I check a dozen other news stories related to the issues above.

July polls are facing stiff competition this week.

[Surya Gayatri]

32. My point is the overt contrast between the MSM's OBSESSION with

polls a few weeks ago, when the fucktrumpet was tied or even leading in a few polls.

The freaking poll numbers led at the top of every news hour.

NOW? Crickets. Like Mountain Grammy said, close race = ratings = $$$$$$$. Case closed.

[Gabi Hayes]

55. isn't there a better site to check, besides that ass swamp? I can't believe how many

RCCs are on the tube all of a sudden>>>RCC=Real Clear Cretins

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. That's fine with me.

We don't need 24/7 coverage of every poll that comes out, at this point.

Donald Trump may not even be the GOP nominee, anyway.

[Surya Gayatri]

6. True, but whatever happens in Cleveland, the "generic" Republican will be DOA.

[PJMcK]

31. The story might be very different in ten days

Who knows what's going to happen between now and the end of next week?

And I share your view of the constant reporting of polls, Cows. They're tiresome and probably misleading.

[pipoman]

3. Polls in July are nothing more than filler for news shows

They are completely meaningless as it relates to the November results. This and every presidential election is decided in October and November and not before.

The most dangerous thing we can do is pretend this election is wrapped up....

[Surya Gayatri]

7. "The most dangerous thing we can do is pretend this election is wrapped up...."

Couldn't agree more, pipoman. That's why the pointed addendum.

My point was the contrast with MSM coverage a few weeks ago, when the attention to "polls" was obsessive.

[thesquanderer]

57. I agree. There will be a ton of polls between now and November. They're not all "news."

Unless there is a startling result, or an imminent election, polls are of interest to those plugged into politics, but are not really "news" to the general population.

[FSogol]

4. LOL, This morning, NPR was doing a story on what type of 1st Lady Melaina Trump would make.

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She even sounds like her husband. "I give to many, many, many, charities...for children... and diseases...."

[Surya Gayatri]

8. NPR? N-freaking-PR? Jeezus H Christ on a pogo stick...these are the depths we've descended to.

[FSogol]

27. The worst part? They concluded that she would be most similar to Jackie Kennedy due to

fashion and glamour.

[Surya Gayatri]

39. Gag me with a golf club...

[rbrnmw]

80. No Jackie wasn't a trophy wife and was very intelligent

[FSogol]

82. Wasn't my opinion, it was the stupid report on Trump's current wife.

While I don't think it is right to attack his wife, I don't see the need to compare her to women who have accomplished much more than marrying a rich guy.

[rbrnmw]

84. I was making commentary on the article

[FSogol]

85. My bad. n/t

[rjsquirrel]

34. Listened to NPR in the last few years?

It's Fox News for the Lexus and Range Rover set.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

88. NPR is disgusting

Hearing one of their sing-song voiced so called -liberals happily announce Jodi Ernst having won the Iowa Senate was the end for me.

[vi5]

9. Ivanka?

Is he planning on divorcing Milania and marrying his daughter?

I mean from what he's said he wouldn't necessarily mind that, but it sounds like an odd premise for NPR to base a story on.

[Surya Gayatri]

13. He said she was pretty "hot" and that he'd hit on her if not for those

awkward taboos on incest...

[FSogol]

30. My bad, I mean Melaina, his current wife. n/t

[LaydeeBug]

70. NPR got sold or something a few years back

and the left predicted the right wing swing to them.

[Gabi Hayes]

76. sold out, not sold to any entity, unless you mean all the companies that tell them what to do:

http://12bytes.org/articles/exposed/npr-national-public-radio-or-national-propaganda-radio

excellent article....lays it all out

[66 dmhlt]

10. I noticed that, too. But they sure pushed "Trump narrows her lead to 5"

Kept waiting to hear about her double digit leads in a couple of polls ... still waiting.

[Surya Gayatri]

14. I think we can correctly assume that interest in polls has waned in direct proportion to

HRC's widening lead.

[yuiyoshida]

11. I wonder, do you think FOX NEWS will announce that Trump won come Election day

like they did with George W. Bush in 2000? I am sure they will try it!

[Surya Gayatri]

16. In 2000? How about 2012, when they ran around like headless chickens as the final Ohio results

came in and OH was called for Obama.

Megan Kelly, Rove, et all. had an open fight with the Fox numbers crunchers, insisting that they MUST be getting it wrong.

[Ace Rothstein]

20. Kelly actually called Rove out that night.

"Is that math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?"

She then went to the room where the stats geeks were and interviewed them about their methodology. It was actually a very cool and fun 10 minutes.

[Surya Gayatri]

23. Classic reality TeeVee. Yes, Kelly ultimately stood up for truth.

Of course, watching her righteous trek ALL the way to the back office was awesome.

[brush]

49. I do remember that. Kelly, for a brief few shining moments, remembered what journalism is.

She stood up to the blustering, election-thieving Rove and wouldn't go along with his inaccurate Ohio prediction.

[rjsquirrel]

35. To be fair to Kelly

she was the voice of reality on that hilarious evening.

[Surya Gayatri]

42. It looked at one point like Rove might start throwing his notebooks at her...Bwaaahaaaaa!

[yuiyoshida]

74. Oh yeh! I do remember that now!

That time they did go nuts when Obama won!

[mblock]

12. Grrrrrr!

I think Hillary always gets the raw deal! She gave an excellent speech on Friday and although they played Trumps dumb (reading like a second grader) speech. They showed her interview about her emails????!! When I woke up this morning, we had a text from ABC news poll that most people feel she should have been charged! Where is that Breaking news that it has to be texted to our phones? I'm just fed up with these news stations. She is held to such an extremely high standard and Trump just needs to read something correctly off a TelePrompTer and he is seen as "making all the points" per Wolf Blitzer..... I'm so frustrated

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Yeah, one of her best speeches in the whole campaign, and it went immediately down the memory hole.

OTOH, the fucktrumpet's tweets were frontpage news.

[George II]

15. To be honest, I did hear something over the weekend about the new Pew poll results....

...showing Clinton ahead by 9%.

I think they're all preoccupied with the three shootings last week and have covered very little politics other than stories related to those shootings.

With the republican convention opening next week I'm sure they'll get back to more coverage of the campaign toward the end of this week.

What does irk me about the polls, though, is how they're portrayed by some news outlets. That Reuters/Ipsos poll of about a week ago showed Clinton ahead by 9%, just about the same as their other polls for the previous six weeks or so (even a tick higher than one), yet the headline was that "lead narrows"!

[Surya Gayatri]

21. I missed that oblique reference. Certainly, on Morning Scar today there were ZERO

references, in spite of lots of bloviating about the "VEEP Stakes".

And, this just proves my point:

"That Reuters/Ipsos poll of about a week ago showed Clinton ahead by 9%...yet the headline was that "lead narrows"!

[George II]

26. The article about "lead narrows" was actually posted here on DU in LBN. I immediately debunked it.

[sarae]

53. I had Morning Joe on this morning just long enough

to hear them talking about Mike Pence as Trump's possible VP pick. I heard Mika say, "Aww, Mike's a nice guy", then I turned the channel.

[Surya Gayatri]

56. Mika the "Meat Puppet" [™Charles Pierce], has gone full bore RW apologist.

What an embarrassing spectacle to see her simpering, smirking attempts to pump Trump up ...

"He's really getting his groove back, don't you think? That was vintage Trump last night..."

(that was after his deranged, hour-long free-association screed the night before.)

[Cryptoad]

17. They are trying

to keep Trump out sight, out of mind, between now and the convention. their main worry is him not being nominated!

[Surya Gayatri]

19. Yeah, no spontaneous calling-in to the pundit circuit. His handlers

are trying desperately to muzzle him until that crucial vote in Cleveland.

[mountain grammy]

22. $$$ and ratings, ratings and $$$

your can't have one without the other, and who's gonna watch a meltdown?

[Surya Gayatri]

25. Only us political junkies, who find the whole spectacle to be riveting...

[Saviolo]

28. The media will try to create a close race

Even if there is none.

The mainstream media needs this to be a close race. They need the excitement that will bring in viewers and advertising dollars in their waning and dying industry. If the pundits don't have a conflict to talk about, they just don't get the eyeballs necessary for ad revenue for their top brass. So you can bet that if there are 10 polls that show the race isn't close, the media will talk about #11 that shows them neck-and-neck.

[Surya Gayatri]

33. Take it to the bank...

So you can bet that if there are 10 polls that show the race isn't close, the media will talk about #11 that shows them neck-and-neck.

[Saviolo]

43. It dovetails nicely

The media's need to create a close race in order to attract viewers dovetails nicely with the wealthy media owners who want to make it harder for the Democrats to win. I don't think they're sending marching orders down, I don't think they have to.

[ffr]

50. They're in it for themselves. Kinda a disservice to us.

Like you said.

They show what sells, not what is newsworthy. You just have to assume that if they're showing it, it's because they have an underlying message. $$$

[tonyt53]

29. Sudden disinterest? Maybe it is because polls for a November election mean nothing until Labor Day.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. That's a given, tony. The point of the OP is the overt contrast between the MSM's

utter obsession with these same polls only weeks ago immediately after the end of the Repub. primary.

"She's in trouble. Trump is neck and neck. Why can't she seal the deal? Her campaign is panicking behind the scenes."

...yada, yada, yada.

They couldn't show those charts and graphics often enough.

[TheFarseer]

72. I think we all assume Hillary is winning.

It's a little bit like the Alabama vs. Jackson St football game is not going to be paid much attention to unless Jackson St is up 14-0. The favorite winning is not big news. At least that's my take.

[maryellen99]

36. Something tells me that if Trump loses Melania is going to leave and file for divorce nt

She looks like she's over it and I bet she did not want him to run.

[NewJeffCT]

40. To be honest

I think Trump ran as a lark to get publicity for himself and didn't expect to win anything. However, once he started winning, his already vast ego exploded into the stratosphere. I'm no psychologist, but I'm guessing he's been even more insufferable to be around this year than he has been in the past.

[maryellen99]

68. I agree-he must be extremely hard to live with nt

[OnDoutside]

37. And Jeb Bush being interviewed by Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC tonight.....which way will he go ?

He's not come out of hiding to say nothing, so it to give Trump a kicking or.....will he support him ?

[NewJeffCT]

41. My guess is

that Jeb will say he supports defeating Hillary, but won't give a whole-hearted endorsement of Trump.

[OnDoutside]

89. Fairly low energy then ...

[amuse bouche]

44. Where does it show she's pulling away?

Nothing I would like better

[Surya Gayatri]

47. Six weeks ago, just after the Repub. primary finished, the fucktrumpet was tied

and even ahead in some polls.

The RCP average shows her with a 4.5 point lead, and the most recent Reuters/Ipsos poll shows her with a lead of 11 points.

Okay, she's not in the "teens" yet, but there's some clear daylight between her and the talking
yam.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[Gabi Hayes]

59. not trying to cold water this, but what's the aggregate margin of error?

and what about the Bradley effect?

still way too close to say she's pulling away; slightly expanding her lead, perhaps (outliers in the polling results, maybe), but this still scares the hell out of me, considering the amazingly abject stupidity of a LARGE percentage of the American people.

jesus, they sort of elected dumbo TWICE! how did either of those two ignorant, spoiled, entitled psychos even get CLOSE to being nominated, let alone become candidates, one of whom had an eight year reign of terror, essentially.

never assume the media won't willfully cooperate in another massive Swiftboating like they did 12 years ago, or cover up something like the rape lawsuit (not even mentioning the fact that one was filed), just as they did the AWOL scandal that was only covered in order to quash the nascent emergence of the truth of the fiasco

something revolving around the emails/lying to congress/Clinton foundation/WJC sexcapades is still lying there, waiting to be brought up by the pugs, then having gasoline poured on it by the MSM

why do you think even the idiot spokespersons are unable to properly defend against the constant allegations that people don't trust her? just a few minutes ago I heard some simp NOT answer back to that charge with a simple declaration that the media are FOOLs for Scandal, and have been after her for over 20 YEARS! then he should have said, WHAT, exactly has ever been PROVEN that she's done wrong. this, more than anything else that's happened in this campaign, pisses me off the most. she needs to counter that bogus propaganda meme that's been promoted since before Whitewater, even.

[Surya Gayatri]

64. I hear you, Gabi. OTOH, millions are not paying attention yet...

She's not "pulling away" massively, but considering the MSM war being waged against her, nearly 6 points is NOT peanuts.

See here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028000645#post45

Let's pray that the great Obama coalition comes en masse to the polls to keep the talking yam in his Trump Tower and nowhere near the White House.

[amuse bouche]

63. I like that red and blue line graph. There must be a more technical name for it.

I remember one of the stats guys talking about it during the last election. Nate or Sam. He said there was no doubt that Obama would win because the blue line stayed pretty much on top of the red for the entire cycle.

I would love to see how those graphs compare

Thanks for the info and talking yam? At least a yam is useful. To me, he's akin to toxic waste.

[Surya Gayatri]

75. True, true, and yams make pretty good sweet potato pie.

But, watch out for the talking ones...not to be trusted.

[Johnny2X2X]

45. Get used to it

They will do everything they can to make this election look close. Even the RCP poll of polls is being manipulated to make it look closer. Normally they take the last 10 polls, for some reason they are only taking the last 8 the last few days, and that bumped a Hillary by 11 and Hillary by 9 from the average. So RCP says Hilalry by 4.5 right now when it really is her by 5.6.

[Surya Gayatri]

48. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. I just cited the 4.5 figure upthread,

when it really is her by 5.6.

[fbc]

46. The 180 with Trump as an opponent rather than Bernie is striking

makes ya think...

[TexasTowelie]

51. The moment that the race tightens by one percentage point

the MSM will claim that Trump has the momentum.

[flamingdem]

52. So true

Otherwise they'll be hoping for some other "BREAKING NEWS" to keep selling Cialis!

[Gabi Hayes]

54. love that gif! when did the cable guy become a Trump TV spokesperson?

can't wait to see what doncon sounds like when he comes crawling out from behind his TV watching facility, where that's what he's been doing lately, and firing off crazed anti-CNN tweetsters



btw, is that the coolest, classiest, most tasteful room you've ever seen? it should have been on the Trump Princess

[Surya Gayatri]

58. Found that great gif on gify.com. It IS good, isn't it?

Is that the fucktrumpet's "man-cave"? The chartreuse accents look a bit pukey...

[Gabi Hayes]

60. great....never seen gify.com. thx for the heads up

if you look closely at the TVs, you might get a hint as to the time period

TCB, baby!

[Surya Gayatri]

65. My eyesight isn't what it was. There's a talk show host on one of the screens, but who?

And, I'm not very up-to-date on web jargon.

What does TCB mean?

[Gabi Hayes]

71. here you go....have some fun. the TCB thing might reveal itself if you dig into this a bit:

https://www.google.com/search?q=graceland+rooms&biw=1093&bih=470&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjEgaDb-OvNAhXEWj4KHRLZC0UQ_AUIBigB

[Surya Gayatri]

73. The first "man-cave" in history was in Graceland...who knew?

But, TCB remains a mystery.

Totally Crappy Bling?

[Gabi Hayes]

78. Taking Care of Business, baby! it was his signline, as it were.

elvis lightning swash...its' everywhere, baby

in that very room


on the plane




in the elvis store
http://shop.graceland.com/tcb-black-3-d-mug.html



on his shades


and, this is it.....(way way more if you google tcb)....on his GRAVE


btw, I have an elvis suite in my pad; spare bedroom with a bunch of crazy stuff, most of which people have given me. I should take a picture. my favorite is a pop up book: elvis remembered a three dimensional celebration. maybe they have it online somewhere.........they must.

only the cover! here's an idea of what it's like, from another book, which I MUST have, now that I know it exists

[Gabi Hayes]

79. just ordered the above pop up book from my library. probably going to buy it, if it's not

ridiculously expensive

[Surya Gayatri]

83. I.Did.Not.Know.That! I loved the "King" in his earlier incarnation (circa late 50's-early 60's),

but did not become a true follower.

FWIW, I find that Elvis had MUCH better taste than Dumpster Don.

[Gabi Hayes]

86. HAR...I linked the pic with lion on another thread. some taste, huh?

saw another one I can't find with Barron inside a scaled down Mercedes convertible, with his NAME on the license

do you think that poor kid will turn out as rotten as his daddy? the look on his face is not showing pleasure at all the opulence with which he's surrounded

but geeezzz, what taste!

did you see this movie: the queen of Versailles, about the woman who had a hundred million dollar chateau built in Fla, IIRC?

here's the ballroom, digital rendering. the house isn't done yet; production halted when the Very sleazy time share king-owner ran into money troubles. it's due to be finished this year, with a price tag right around a hundred mill.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1116721!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg

see the movie: the queen of Versailles. it used to be on Netflix

[Surya Gayatri]

90. Wow, just wow...it's a sickness. Compulsive conspicuous consumption.

Obsessive-compulsive disorder expressed through a deranged fascination with "stuff".

Louis XIV is turning in his tomb.

The original is over the top, granted, but it WAS the home for the whole royal court, plus retinue, plus retainers.

It was, in effect, one great big reception hall for all of Europe.

Thanks for sharing that, Gabi. First time I've ever heard of it.

[Peregrine Took]

61. They so want Trump to be in front for the all exciting horse race. n/t

[Albertoo]

62. I placed a large bet 3 months ago that Trump would never win this election

Things are looking good.

[Surya Gayatri]

66. Let's pray that you'll be able to cash in massively in November...

[Albertoo]

69. it's just play money, but i'm confident

i like my play money stash

[cosmicone]

67. k&r n/t

[NaturalHigh]

77. They want the horse race.

Trump never stood a chance against Clinton, and he will implode before November.

[Rex]

81. The MSM will do whatever it takes to get Dump elected. Bank on it. nt

nt

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

87. Fine by me

Hopefully they don't notice as they make a guaranteed loser the official nominee.

[Cha]

91. The US m$m are manipulators and manufacters of "news", as we know, Surya.. Thank

Goodness for Social Media and the Net!



Polls show Clinton expanding her lead over Trump

Clinton now leads Trump by double digits — 51% to 39% — in the new Washington Post-ABC News poll, a survey that had the race statistically tied last month.

In the weeks since, Trump has drawn criticism over his comments about a judge's "Mexican heritage" and his reaction to the Orlando terrorist attack.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/26/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-nbc-wall-street-journal-poll-washington-post-abc-news/86402638/

Merci Beaucoup!