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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:29 PM Jul 2016

TIME on Black Lives Matter: "Save the Whales" doesn't mean "Screw the Eagles"

The choice isn't binary.

http://time.com/4400811/all-lives-matter/?xid=homepage


Let’s stipulate first that it would be hard to imagine a movement with a more heart-breakingly modest purpose than one making the case that the lives of the people it’s trying to look after aren’t better or more worthy than anyone else’s, but merely that they count.

That, however, hasn’t stopped the critics from pouncing. The go-to criticism—and we’re looking at you Rudy Giuliani, though you’ve had plenty of company—is the disingenuous question: “Hey! What about other lives?” On CBS’s Face the Nation, Giuliani went through the usual riff: “Black lives matter. White lives matter. Asian lives matter. Hispanic lives matter,” the idea being that all lives matter just the same, and that there must be something terribly elitist and wrong with you if you care only about black ones.

But nobody said those other lives don’t matter; no one even said that black lives matter a tiny bit more. Pretending that the choice is binary—and then acting as if it’s the other side that framed it that way—is a handy dodge but a dishonest one. If I say “Save the whales,” it does not mean, “Screw the eagles.”

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TIME on Black Lives Matter: "Save the Whales" doesn't mean "Screw the Eagles" (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2016 OP
Yes. LWolf Jul 2016 #1
Trevor Noah made this point on The Daily Show: IcyPeas Jul 2016 #2
Binary thinking is never a good thing, it happens way too much. Rex Jul 2016 #3
K&R! napkinz Jul 2016 #4
Black Lives Matter because they HAVE NOT MATTERED ... napkinz Jul 2016 #5
The fact that so many people get angry at the Black Lives Matter movement zz-la Jul 2016 #6

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
2. Trevor Noah made this point on The Daily Show:
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jul 2016
"if you are pro Black Lives Matter you are assumed to be anti-police.... and if you are pro-police then you surely hate Black people"




 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Binary thinking is never a good thing, it happens way too much.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jul 2016

Also, the white live matter movement has been a strawman since day one. People that keep repeating it make me go HMMM...

zz-la

(224 posts)
6. The fact that so many people get angry at the Black Lives Matter movement
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

only goes to strengthen the movements position that Black Lives don't matter. So many white people are suddenly thrown into a tizzy at the mere mention of idea that Black Lives Matter, especially when there is a long enduring history of just the opposite in this country.

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