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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:39 AM Jul 2016

Dallas tragedy proves a good guy with a gun shouldn't be the only thing that stops a bad guy ...

...with a gun.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-skelton-dallas-shooting-gun-control-20160711-snap-story.html

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” Well, that gun lobby rubbish was again disproved in Dallas.

Twelve good guys — law enforcement men and women trained to shoot — were stopped by one bad guy. Five officers were killed and seven wounded. Two civilians also were injured before the bad guy was finally stopped by a bomb-carrying robot.

How many good guys with guns were there trying to subdue this bad guy? Maybe 100? More?

The bad guy himself, like so many killers, apparently also was a good guy, until he wasn’t anymore — until he decided to shoot white cops. Micah Xavier Johnson, a 25-year-old black man, had no known criminal record or ties to terror groups. He was formerly a U.S. Army reservist stationed in Afghanistan.
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Dallas tragedy proves a good guy with a gun shouldn't be the only thing that stops a bad guy ... (Original Post) TomCADem Jul 2016 OP
In Dallas there were at least a dozen open carriers in that March. They ran, applegrove Jul 2016 #1
True, but one correction. Micah was in trouble, legally, in military. uppityperson Jul 2016 #2
Discharged without receiving BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #4
When is the NRA going to speak up for robots' Second Amendment rights to bombs? onehandle Jul 2016 #3

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
1. In Dallas there were at least a dozen open carriers in that March. They ran,
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:43 AM
Jul 2016

as well they should, and made things 12 times more confusing for the police to narrow down the killer. I wonder if the casualties would have been less had there not been so many civilians carrying guns.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. True, but one correction. Micah was in trouble, legally, in military.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:15 AM
Jul 2016
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

In May 2014, during his deployment, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier, who sought a protective order against him and said that he needed mental health counseling.[66][67][68] The Army sent Johnson home, and according to the military lawyer who represented Johnson at the time, the Army initiated proceedings to give Johnson an "other than honorable discharge," which the lawyer viewed as "highly unusual" because counseling is usually ordered before more drastic steps.[68][66] On the advice of his attorney, Johnson waived his right to a hearing in exchange for a reduced charge,[66] and he was honorably discharged in September 2014, apparently as a result of an Army error.[67

BlueMTexpat

(15,367 posts)
4. Discharged without receiving
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:42 AM
Jul 2016

the mental health counseling he should have had access to before a discharge process was even initiated = a ticking bomb. We create our own "monsters."

Penny-wise and pound-foolish, as always.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. When is the NRA going to speak up for robots' Second Amendment rights to bombs?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:17 AM
Jul 2016

Clearly, guns aren't protecting them... or us.

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