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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:29 AM Jul 2016

Oh the Pearl-Clutchers are clucking about RBG's comments on trump!

Justice Ginsburg's Mistake
The U.S. Supreme Court justice imperiled the high court’s neutrality by weighing in on the 2016 presidential election.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/ginsburg-trump-supreme-court/491033/

Donald Trump Is Right About Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD JULY 13, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/donald-trump-is-right-about-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg.html?_r=1

I have one thing to say to these folks: Bush V. Gore. Now fuck off.

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Oh the Pearl-Clutchers are clucking about RBG's comments on trump! (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2016 OP
Anything - and I mean *anything* - that's beneficial to the American people and the Dem Party BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #1
Nobody said anything about Sandra Day O'Connor's remarks. RandySF Jul 2016 #2
Of course not...SDO mouthed off the way she was supposed to... Raster Jul 2016 #6
The 9 members of the Supreme Court TeddyR Jul 2016 #3
The code of conduct for us judges does not apply to scotus Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #4
Shut it, NYT! Raster Jul 2016 #5
Anyone else think... NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #7
Quite possibly.... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #9
Here's the rule gratuitous Jul 2016 #8
would you be kind enough to post this as its own OP. lots of people need to see it, niyad Jul 2016 #10
trump does not wanna be president, he wants to be king. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #11
K&R lillypaddle Jul 2016 #12

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. Anything - and I mean *anything* - that's beneficial to the American people and the Dem Party
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jul 2016

will be taken apart, dissected, focused on, then spun and regurgitated with a new and pro-GOP meaning throughout the country. We have to come to terms with the fact that our Fourth Estate is dead, and incorporated propaganda outlets have taken over. Once we understand that as a given fact, we'll be so much more selective in what we choose to believe, and it will benefit us overall in the long run.

RandySF

(58,441 posts)
2. Nobody said anything about Sandra Day O'Connor's remarks.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

At an Election Night party in 2000 when Al Gore was first declared winner in Florida. And she sat and ruled on Bush v. Gore.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
6. Of course not...SDO mouthed off the way she was supposed to...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jul 2016

...with her immoral and illegal vote in Bush* v. Gore to follow.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
3. The 9 members of the Supreme Court
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jul 2016

Are perhaps the most powerful individuals in the country, other than the president. When a justice makes the types of statements that Ginsburg made it calls into question the court's impartiality. As much as I dislike Trump, Ginsburg's statements were a mistake. Note that the Code of Conduct for United States Judges prohibits public endorsement or opposition of political candidates. Anyway, the WaPo had a good piece today discussing why she shouldn't have said what she did - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/justice-ginsburgs-inappropriate-comments-on-donald-trump/2016/07/12/981df404-4862-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Shut it, NYT!
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jul 2016

So the Old Gray Lady has a pearl-clutching moment...and I am NOT referring to RBG.

Donald Trump is the least qualified public figure to eye the Presidency in many years, except for perhaps Sarah Palin. And before the NYT gets all high and mighty, two words: "Iraq War." Where were your editorial sensibilities as you cheerleaded one of the worst foreign policy mistakes ever? Thank God RBG has the courage to speak out. She actually feels has a stake in the course of this country. Sadly, it appears the NYT has a stake in their ad rates and subscription coverage, and will say or do just about anything to inflate both. SHUT IT, NYT! Two more words, an initial and an asterisk: George W. Bush*.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
7. Anyone else think...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jul 2016

She is getting ready to retire next year, and so she doesn't give a fuck what people say about her now?

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
9. Quite possibly....
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jul 2016

wouldn't surprise me at all. But she's afraid that Trump might get to appoint her successor.

Unless we elect a Dem Senate, it is entirely possible we will have a 6 member SC by the end of Hillary's first term.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Here's the rule
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jul 2016

If you're all upset about Justice Ginsburg calling Trump a faker and expressing a general distaste for the man while Trump has no cases in the pipeline to come before the Court, but you weren't upset about Justice Scalia going duck hunting with Vice President Cheney in Louisiana when Cheney had a case wending its way through the federal appellate system, then your upset should not be heard. Similarly, if you weren't upset by Justice O'Connor expressing her opinion on election night 2000 and then still joining in the opinion in Bush v. Gore a few weeks later, you don't get to be upset about Justice Ginsburg's remarks now.

And, in case it needs to be said, there's a huge (maybe even yuuuge or bigly) difference between the timing and circumstances of Justice Ginsburg's comments and the circumstances of Justice O'Connor and Justice Scalia.

niyad

(113,022 posts)
10. would you be kind enough to post this as its own OP. lots of people need to see it,
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jul 2016

and we want to rec it.

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