Driver plows through 'Black Lives Matter' protesters in southern IL

[tenderfoot]

“All lives matter, not blacks, all lives,” the driver said before plowing into a group of Black Lives Matter protesters.

CARBONDALE, IL (KFVS) -
The driver of an SUV plowed through a group of protesters during a “Black Lives Matters” march in southern Illinois on Sunday, July 10.

According to Carbondale police, at around 10 p.m., officers began to monitor demonstrators who began marching along Washington Street in Carbondale.

Police say they continued marching throughout the downtown streets, briefly assembled in front of the Carbondale Police Department, before returning to the Town Square Pavilion.

According to police, as they were returning to the pavilion, a vehicle tried to drive through the demonstrators in the 200 block of East Main Street while they were blocking traffic.

You can see this in a Facebook Live video captured by Heartland News.

In the video, you see the driver stop his vehicle just before the protesters. The driver gets out of his vehicle and shouts at protesters.

more: http://www.nbc12.com/story/32413138/driver-plows-through-black-lives-matter-protesters-in-southern-il

[Solly Mack]

1. Yeah. "All" lives matter so much he wanted to take a few.

[840high]

62. He did not plow. Got out and argued.

[Solly Mack]

71. ...

“All lives matter, not blacks, all lives,” the driver said.

He then gets back into his vehicle, revs his engine and then speeds through the group.

And in doing so, intentionally taking the risk of running over someone.

I didn't use the word plow, the writer did. But I did read the article the first time around and see no reason to change my statement.

But do feel free to continue to stand up for the jerk as you have done throughout this thread.

[840high]

76. Watch the video. He was punched, his car was

meesed up. 'nite see #5

[0rganism]

2. the "all lives matter" peeps don't seem to get that "all" includes "black"

if "all lives matter" then "black lives matter", and that should be pretty much the end of the arguments right there.

and yet somehow this bullshit continues...

[840high]

63. You're going to feel silly when

you watch the video. There was no "plow".

[0rganism]

84. silly? no, not really

more like outraged and disturbed

[yeoman6987]

3. I think cities are going to have to open parks and ball fields for protesters

It's to dangerous for protesters to be on the streets. This is the second story in two days of cars hitting protesters. First story was an accident. This one doesn't seem to be an accident.

[scscholar]

31. This. It is the fault of cities for forcing the protesters out into the streets (ntxt)

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. It's terrorism. Racial terrorism. Charge him accordingly.

[SuperDutyTX]

5. Did you watch the video?

Charging him with any kind of terorism related crime would be insane. The guy got about 4-5 feet from the protesters, got out of the car and said something, then proceeded at about 2mph through the small crowd blocking the streets, while they vandalized his car.

Once he made it through (again at 2mph) they chased after him, punched him in the face, and threw a smoke bomb in the car.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. Did the crowd start it?

[Waldorf]

65. Yep. When they blocked the street.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

69. Ahhhh, so blicking the street means a driver can ram them.

If you say so...

[Waldorf]

70. Have you watched the video? It was more like crawling thru the crowd.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

73. Yes. Complete disregard for safety of others.

[TipTok]

80. It's like standing on train tracks...

... and acting surprised when the train runs you over.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

83. Or it's like using common sense and not making a heated situation worse

by harming others.

There's something to be said for backing up and going in the opposite direction.

[pinboy3niner]

77. EarlG: The American tradition of inconveniencing motorists...

[onethatcares]

7. I missed that part

where he went 2 mph..

What do you like on your pizza?

[SuperDutyTX]

10. It's right here

[SuperDutyTX]

75. Also...

I'm partial to pepperoni and extra cheese.

It's delicious

[LeftyMom]

8. You seem nice.

[SuperDutyTX]

9. Thanks?

Did you watch the video and read the article in the OP?

[tenderfoot]

15. This happened yesterday. Maybe it inspired the event in Nice.

[B2G]

16. Yeah.

I'll bet that's exactly what happened.

[tenderfoot]

17. You don't seem bothered about this just the timing of the post.

Says a lot!

[SuperDutyTX]

18. No it happened on the 11th

And the insinuation that it "inspired" people in France to murder 75 people/injure 100 more is perhaps the most sickening thing I've read on this site.

I have a hard time accepting you actually believe that.

[tenderfoot]

19. You're not too upset about this - says a lot about you.

Have a nice day.

[SuperDutyTX]

26. No

I'm not upset about it, because the only person hurt by this was the guy that "slowly crawled" through a group of illegal protesters blocking a road; who was then subsequently physically assaulted, and had his car vandalized.

I am upset that you would be so disingenuous as to imply that this had ANYTHING to do with what happened in France.

[tenderfoot]

27. Your concern has been duly noted

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[SuperDutyTX]

74. I have concern...

I have deep sadness and concern for the 80+ people who were needlessly murdered, and ~100 who were also injured tonight.

I don't really have any concern for the crowd that was gathered in the street in this instance. The drive didn't "plow" through anyone, anymore than my black lab just "assaulted" me when she just licked my hand.

[LanternWaste]

86. No doubt, many people believe it's important to tell us who they lack concern for.

No doubt, many people believe it's important to tell us who they lack concern for. I'd always thought that was confined to the petulance of school-children, however I may reassess and widen that particular demographic.

[840high]

66. .that^

[840high]

58. Doubt it.

[840high]

57. Furthermore - he did not "plow".

[840high]

64. BS - watch th video.

[frankieallen]

85. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

[melman]

11. Why did you post this now?

This is a story from Sunday. Are you seriously trying to compare this to the carnage in France?

[tenderfoot]

12. I posted it before the events in France took place.

have a nice.

[B2G]

13. No, you didn't

News broke before you posted.

[tenderfoot]

14. Well, I missed the initial reports then. It doesn't change that a driver plowed into BLM supporters.

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[cwydro]

20. This was already posted several days ago.

But nice try.

[tenderfoot]

22. You're accusing me of lying?

Nice try.

You're support for the driver has been duly noted.

[Joe the Revelator]

40. Oh, come the f on!

"you're support for the driver' get out of here with that bullshit.

[cwydro]

78. Again, nice try.

And darlin' it's "your", not "you're".

[Monk06]

21. He did not plow into anyone Lying for your cause does not forward your cause Especially when

the video is clearly an agit prop, pants on fire NOTHING

In the context of what just happened in Nice, BLM hyperboly should be dialed down a notch or two

[tenderfoot]

23. What's my cause?

This I have to hear.

[Monk06]

29. Promoting a claim by BLM supporters which is patently false You can support BLM without

promulgating false claims and exaggerations

[tenderfoot]

30. That is a lie

However, your support for the driver that did the plowing has been duly noted.

[Joe the Revelator]

41. Seriously, you should be ashamed of yourself. nt

[tenderfoot]

45. Yeah well, I'm not.

[Joe the Revelator]

51. I have no doubt.

[KMOD]

28. We are not limited to one discussion only here.

While it is a different scenario than what has happened in France, it can still be discussed.

This has been an issue at some protests.

WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO uploaded to youtube by @ssholes.

[Monk06]

32. Discribing an incident that is clearly not a case of `plowing` on the heals of the Nice

plowing/massacre is not having another conversation about the same topic

It is promulgating and cruel and thoughtless hyperbola to front run a nothing news story at the expense of nearly one hundred murdered French citizens and not a few American tourists.

People who promote these pants on fire internet 'news' headlines are immature and thoughtless

[KMOD]

33. They are different topics.

[tenderfoot]

38. They don't care...

they're hear to flame and nothing more.

Perhaps Pokemon Go is the cure.

[Monk06]

53. Using motor vehicles as an instrument of terror is the same topic

It's just the juxtoposition of the OPs video after Nice is makes his claim cynical Even more so since the
video in the original post does not justify the pants on fire headline

If you are happy using deception and falsehood to make your arguement have at it

There are enough genuine cases of violence that you could comment on without bending the truth

[tenderfoot]

35. Your responses are so histrionic that I question your sincerity

I don't think you care about Nice, the victims, BLM or their violent detractors. What you do care about is flaming for sake of doing so.

That BLM is constantly being undermined is hardly cruel and thoughtless hyperbole. Your wrath says more about you than the op.

[Monk06]

50. My response was reasoned and measured You on the other hand seem quite exciteable

[tenderfoot]

52. no. you're excusatory and couldn't care less about the op

just because I happened to post it while events in France were taking place.

You flame for the sake of doing so. You could not care less that BLM supporters are subjected to violence. Because more people died in France.

[Monk06]

55. The issue isn't that you posted just after Nice happened The issue is there was no plowing

incident in the video you posted Your discription, whether first or second hand is just plainly untrue

That's not flaming and is completely unrelated to my opinion about BLM, which you have no way of knowing

As for BML I have no settled opinion of it as a movement one way or another It is too unfocused at the moment to make a political assessment about its aims and effectiveness

[tblue37]

37. When you tried to correct "hyperboly" your autocorrect changed it to "hyperbola" instead of

the word you were after ("hyperbole&quot .

[Monk06]

46. Must be my 1960's algebra comin back to haunt me

[tblue37]

49. Probably a hyperactive autocorrect. I have to fight mine all the time. nt

[Stellar]

34. Jebus!!! I hadn't heard about that and that happened in January this year.

How did that work out, I wonder?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

39. Just hold on!

You are actually posting some videos of people fighting with cars. Black on black. Not BLM and white.
They were not protesting! They were fighting and arguing. lol

Here's more of it.

[KMOD]

44. Ok, the racist who made the video dubbed that one incident in as well.

what about the rest?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

48. I don't know.

[840high]

59. ...!100++++

[840high]

67. One more time - he did NOT plow.

[snooper2]

82. Have you actually every plowed into anything before?

I could give you some examples of the correct usage of that term but I'll just wait for your personal examples.

[KMOD]

24. I don't see any reason why both stories can't be covered.

[Aristus]

25. Well, he kind of proved their point.

'All lives matter, unless those lives are black'.

Then it's okay to shoot or plow a car into them...

[840high]

68. He did NOT plow. Watch

the video.

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Carbondale, Il ... Nice, France ... Is there a difference?

[Dreamer Tatum]

42. None at all - you had no opinion of either until this thread, I'll wager. Nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. You're right. I was watching reports of Nice, when I saw this for the first time.

[Joe the Revelator]

43. Sure: one killed 75 people, the other nobody was injured because the driver stopped and got out and

argued. Other than that, completely the same.

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. Good point. I should have read the article (rather than just the title) before posting.

[Dreamer Tatum]

56. So you thought it was possible that an equal horror

Could happen in IL to BLM and you simply missed it?

Wow.

[kwassa]

60. And what are you projecting?

[1StrongBlackMan]

61. I read the title, i.e., "Car plows into crowd" ...

while watching, "truck plows into crowd" ... so, yes ... I wondered if anyone would drawn an equivalency ... Or rather, invent a difference.

[Nye Bevan]

72. Why didn't you mention the death toll in your post? (nt)

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

79. Misleading headline. Driver did not "plough" or "plow". He fled.

Nobody injured, not even endangered. The driver lost his argument, then fled. The crowd gave him enough space to safely drive away.

I'm sure there were some people who were annoyed, but that's far from being injured or killed.

[Capt. Obvious]

81. White lives feeling uncomfortable matter.

[tenderfoot]

87. You have to like all the feigned outrage

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