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Senator Warren not scheduled to speak at the Democratic Convention
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/07/15/one-person-on-hillarys-shortlist-for-vp-was-just-removed-from-dnc-speaker-schedule/
emulatorloo
(44,057 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)applegrove
(118,462 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If Hillary just realized how bad Liz would SHRED Pence in a debate SHRED!
napi21
(45,806 posts)host was speculating about who Pence might have to debate. I have to admit Liz would have shredded any of Don the Con's last three choices, but Pence would be especially sweet. All those Teabaggers and LBGT haters would be shamed to hide their heads.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Could we really be this lucky???
PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)That'd really quell any doubts I have. I trust Warren implicitly.
lostnfound
(16,161 posts)Would be helpful
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)and she is not the VP... That would be outrageous.
I think she is going to get the tap for VP.
No other reason I can think of why they would yank her off the schedule. Fingers cossed.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Probably will be really scheduled once HRC makes her VP choice known ahead of the Convention. Sure Warren will be a speaker if she's not the VP pick.
SO NO NEED TO GET OUTRAGED OVER NONSENSE!
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)unless they were wrong
mercuryblues
(14,521 posts)an article yesterday that had Warren speaking on Friday, in a primetime slot?
All rumors
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)And they start with "if". Go back and reread messages before getting all outraged about nothing.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)BIG EYEROLL!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I don't find it to be appealing. Just reading that sort of comment makes us all lesser for it.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Joking!
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)46. What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you going nuts? nt
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)
Her Sister
18. The schedule is bare as of this moment. NONE of the VP candidates on it!
Probably will be really scheduled once HRC makes her VP choice known ahead of the Convention. Sure Warren will be a speaker if she's not the VP pick.
SO NO NEED TO GET OUTRAGED OVER NONSENSE!
Her Sister
21. If blah blah I'll be so outraged!
BIG EYEROLL!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)opens her mouth.
I can't figure out any rational reason NOT to have her scheduled for the convention, unless she's being scheduled for a more prominent role due to being on the ticket.
I think she would be an excellent veep pick, but if she isn't, I can't imagine why she wouldn't be speaking in Philadelphia. It wouldn't make sense.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I don't expect a real announcement till she totally wants to steal the Trump thunder.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, they know what they're doing.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I think they doing a great job keeping it in the news. I'm surprised at how well Clinton and Warren did stumping together, there seems to be a good chemistry or something.
I would have never have guessed that I'd think a two woman ticket was yet viable in the US, but they certainly are. HRC had a lot of good choices, but just musing over a two woman ticket gives me the chills for my friends' daughters. It is important, and I'm proud they're ours. Crossing my fingers for Warren.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Warren is my top choice, as well.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That should be good!
Fla Dem
(23,573 posts)I read the comment that if Elizabeth Warren is not the VP pick, then it would be outrageous not to have her speak at the convention. To me this is a reasonable reaction. Elizabeth Warren is an icon in the Democratic Party. To not have her not speak at the convention would be a major snub and a big disappointment to a majority of Democrats. Her speaking would go a long way to uniting and igniting the party. Next to President Obama, she would be the 2nd most spectacular speaker, then Michelle Obama and then Joe Biden. They would be quite the warm up for HRC's acceptance speech.
Has anyone checked if ClintonWarren.com has been purchased...and if so, who bought it?
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Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)The Democrats have a deep bench this year.
I'm quite prepared to believe that Warren may be the best person on it, but I'd be very surprised if she were a whole senate seat's worth better than the next best person (even if you exclude Brown and Booker), and if not, I hope she's not picked - I'm dubious about Reid's ability to work magic.
OnDoutside
(19,945 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,584 posts)most likely a committee chair, too, of a very powerful financial oversight committee, assuming we can flip the Senate.
I kind of want Liz to stay where she is.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Sanders are the only people on this list.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Still we have a lot of good choices! Yay!
Vinca
(50,236 posts)StopTheNeoCons
(890 posts)thucythucy
(8,037 posts)is that the governor of Massachusetts is a Republican, and he'd no doubt appoint one to take her place, at least until an election could be scheduled.
That's my only problem with her as a VP pick. Otherwise she'd be tremendous, and a real asset to the ticket.
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)He's not going to choose a Democrat to replace Warren if Clinton chooses her.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,507 posts)for the interim period isn't likely to be a contender in the special election. There aren't that many popular Republican politicians or public figures in Mass.
Assuming Tom Brady doesn't opt for an early retirement and throws his hat in the ring.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)let's go all the way! Two women. Just do it, Hillary!
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)but Pence? She'll cream him too easily
sofa king
(10,857 posts)From that one move, several early guesses can be made:
* Removing a speaker from the list is about as big a tell as you can show in the VP guessing game (unless you're Republican and Tim Tebow backs out on you). Furthermore, the timing of this move suggests that it is intentional, designed to tip off the press and tealeaf-readers so that pollsters can run their hypothetical matchup scenarios. It injects enthusiasm into Democrats and shows the general lack of finesse in the Republican pick, and keeps people looking ahead to the Democratic Convention while the dumpster fire burns. Warren can easily be added back to the speaker list if this is a head-fake, but it risks upsetting those of us who would consider the pick of Warren to be an excellent one.
* As best I can tell, Mass. election law now allows for an interim gubernatorial appointment, for up to 160 days, at which point a special election must be held. The current governor is Republican, and his appointment will have a leg up in the next regular election, and he may be able to run in the special election as well. Picking Warren would concede a large but not insurmountable advantage to the Massachusetts Republicans. Democrats must feel confident that Warren's position can be refilled by another Democrat in mid-2017.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vacancies-in-the-united-states-senate.aspx
* Assuming a win, the move would also promote the highly competent Ed Markey to the position of senior Senator from Massachusetts, which certainly puts him in a position for higher office or future cabinet posts. Markey got his current post through a clever double-move by the Obama Administration after the death of Ted Kennedy, in which they moved John Kerry to Secretary of State and created two new powerhouse Senators (Warren and Markey) with the move.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=263986
* Democrats cannot make a move like this without conceding territory in the Senate, temporarily. That, in turn, could dramatically influence the course of events that President Clinton can follow in her first five months... UNLESS your internal polling suggests that Democrats are going to wind up holding somewhere around 53-59 seats in the Senate. That range is enough to control business in the Senate, but not enough to override a filibuster. It provides some padding to give a seat away, temporarily. The Warren hand-tip suggests that Democrats are now very confident about regaining a strong majority in the Senate.
* In retrospect it appears as if Mrs. Clinton has been carefully judging the reactions of voters as she appeared with or dangled potential running mates, including Tim Kaine just last week. I recall a hypothetical scenario poll from much earlier in the year that suggested that a Clinton/Warren ticket could defeat any combination of Republicans.
* Democrats must also have noted something about the "misogyny vector" which works in our favor. My current assumption is that the racists are the misogynists, so that doubling down on a female ticket doesn't change any minds on the Republican side, but it must have a net positive effect on Democratic and undecided voters. That squares well with my own personal bias, though, so it's not a solid guess like some of the above.
The Senate will sorely miss Mrs. Warren, if she accepts the nomination as running-mate. But Ed Markey is a superb replacement as senior Senator and Massachusetts has a deep bag of competent leadership which can replace Warren. Democrats must feel considerably more confident about the upcoming elections than I suspected, for Warren is an intrepid and potentially risky choice in several ways. Wonderful!
Small Accumulates
(149 posts)It'll be easier for folks to find this as a beginning, rather than a middle. And it's an excellent analysis!
sofa king
(10,857 posts)I'll put it in the General Discussion: 2016 section.
Small Accumulates
(149 posts)eleny
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