BLM showing what a reasonable group they are....

[Joe the Revelator]

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/754708241200787456

/s

[Joe the Revelator]

1. But wait...there's more...

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/754719842817617920

[KMOD]

2. What is unreasonable

is jumping to the conclusion that this crime is associated with the Black Lives Matter movement.

You don't know the identity of the the perpetrator(s), or the motive.

[Democat]

3. The poster is talking about the tweets

Click the links.

[KMOD]

5. I did.

The tweets are addressing those who are jumping to the conclusion that the Black Lives Matter movement has something to do with what is currently happening in Baton Rouge.

[Joe the Revelator]

4. Regardless, Tariq Nasheed quickly blaming white people for forcing black people to kill cops...

isn't really much better. I'd argue that its actually worse.

[KMOD]

6. If your mind immediately

blamed President Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement, than his message is addressed to you.

If you are not immediately blaming President Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement, you have no reason to be offended by his tweet.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. I don't think you read the tweets...

This was HIS first thought:

Tariq Nasheed ?@tariqnasheed 1h1 hour ago
3 Baton Rouge police officers were shot and killed today. White supremacy put all this madness into motion


~~~

That is a problem. It's ok to admit that this guy is off the rails.

[KMOD]

8. Here's an idea for you.

Since you follow him on Twitter, why don't you go have a discussion there, instead of trying to shit stir something here.

[Joe the Revelator]

9. Because this is a discussion board. For discussion. If you don't like his message...

....don't blame me.

[kwassa]

13. Tariq is right. What is the problem?

If you wish to look at root causes, white supremacy is it.

[jonno99]

22. An eye for an eye till the whole world is blind - right? nt

[kwassa]

48. Your comment has nothing to do with what I said.

[Spider Jerusalem]

14. I imagine it's a very uncomfortable thought for you, but, he's right

just like apartheid led to the ANC blowing shit up in South Africa 50, 60 years ago.

[Joe the Revelator]

15. The only uncomfortable thing is that the immediate reaction of this guy...

...was to CYA and somehow blame 'white people' as soon as this event occured.

[Spider Jerusalem]

16. Good god, that's a stunningly ignorant thing to say

He said "white supremacy".

[Joe the Revelator]

18. What is the tie in to White Supremacy less than an hour after the news broke that 3 cops were dead?

[Spider Jerusalem]

19. you're not very observant, are you

white supremacy is responsible for the treatment of black Americans at the hands of police, and the deaths of black Americans at the hands of police, that have led to some people with grievances targeting police deliberately in retaliation (see: Dallas, recently, and very probably Baton Rouge, today). There's a chain of cause and effect that's as clear here as the one between US foreign policy in Afghanistan and the Middle East and ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

[Joe the Revelator]

20. Just wanted to see you type out an excuse for one group of people to murder another.

Thanks.

[Spider Jerusalem]

21. Not an excuse

there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. It's quite possible to see the connection without endorsing the action involved. If you think that's an "excuse", you're an idiot.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. Then I guess I'm an idiot.

You're making excuses for terrorism and murder in one post. Keep up the good work.

[Spider Jerusalem]

24. I guess you are, yes

Unless you're somehow trying to argue that there's zero connection between these things (radicals don't become radicals for no reason, usually).

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. I'm so glad you said that ... instead of me. Thanks. You undoubtedly saved me from a hide.

[Bradical79]

25. So you don't actually care

You just want to use a murder to bait people on a message board and trash the Black Lives Matter movement rather than have a discussion. That's pretty disgusting.

[Joe the Revelator]

27. No, the point was, blaming 'white supremacy' for murdering police officers is foolish.

That fact should already be established. I was allowing SJ to follow out his counterpoint to its (il)logical conclusion.

[Bradical79]

31. You were baiting people because you don't really care

You clearly don't care about actual rational discussion. You could actually try discussing why you think blaming white supremecy is fooling rather than simply declare it so and try to bait people.

[seabeyond]

35. +1. Yes. Nt

[uponit7771]

45. Again, all white people are NOT white supremacist ... a good portion of BLM is white people... so

[Cosmocat]

38. o for fucks sake

Every sports board I post on has the usual dozen or so asshats with a string on this screaming about the black panthers and each one respectively with post 1,000 saying how BHO is "GETTING WHAT HE WANTS!"

It isn't my cup of tea, but people are fucking human and have their breaking points.

[NuclearDem]

10. Seattle still hurting?

[Joe the Revelator]

11. I don't understand...

But I like these

[treestar]

12. Don't see a problem

Blaming Obama is stupid.

[lapucelle]

17. Their is no shortage of people showing themselves to be odious this morning

on Twitter, black and white.

[Lisa0825]

26. I don't have a problem with his connecting white supremacy (not white people in general)

to the recent acts of violence. White supremacy is what allowed the rage to grow and some people have taken it into the wrong direction. Would this have happened without the bigotry that is so widespread in our society? I don't think so.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. The bigotry, as evidenced, cuts both ways.

[Lisa0825]

30. I don't see it that way.

I don't see him saying "all white people" or even "white people" or "all cops."

Can we blame racists? White Supremacists? A system that unjustly protects police officers even when they are in the wrong? The fact that there is a history of white supremacists in law enforement?

edited to add: Now I don't know this guy at all, so I can't judge him overall as good or bad. I am just going by the two tweets you shared, and seeing them through my own filters.

[Bradical79]

34. Why do you find discussion of white supremecy offensive

but you have no problem disparaging the entire Black Lives Matter movement over some twitter comments?

[Joe the Revelator]

40. Sure, for public comments from a self proclaimed member/leader (?) of the movement.

[uponit7771]

44. False dichotomy, 99.9% of white people in America are NOT white supremacist

[philosslayer]

60. 99.9%???

uuuhhh.... i think you need to come down in that number considerably. Like... double digits.

[Chemisse]

56. I agree with you.

I don't like the level of antagonistic rhetoric in the tweets, but the basic point he is making is undeniably correct.

[romanic]

29. I thought Tariq didn't like BLM.

He's had radio shows clowning BLM activists, saying they're bankrolled by George Soros, "agents for white surpremacy", etc. Very weird tweet.

[Rex]

33. Your concern is noted.

[Joe the Revelator]

39. As is your cliched response.

[ismnotwasm]

36. They are the most successful grassroots movement in years

Don't hate.

[arcane1]

37. How does one guy become a "group"?

Just because he's black, he's automatically speaking for every member of BLM?

[Joe the Revelator]

41. It's not just some guy, it's Tariq Nasheed...do some research if you don't now who he is.

[arcane1]

42. Dodging the question, just as I suspected.

Thanks for proving my point

[Joe the Revelator]

47. That game doesn't work here. If a person who has spoken for the group, makes crazy ass public

comments...then those comments are part of the group.

[arcane1]

63. That's why all Americans agree with Donald Trump's tweets

It's fun to invent your own rules. I should try more of it

[tenderfoot]

62. I just googled. He's got a twitter account. And I still don't know who the **** he is.

eom

[giftedgirl77]

61. It is the same logic used to demonize all Muslims.

That attitude is exactly where the white (Christian) supremacy argument comes from.

[uponit7771]

43. Hurt dogs howl? tia

[pintobean]

46. ...

[Stinky The Clown]

49. We can show distasteful comments from virtually any corner of the world

Joe

What does that have to do with ANYthing apart from what that guy thinks?

[Joe the Revelator]

50. He's a self proclaimed leader of the movement, not just some joe schmoe on the street.

Distasteful comments by people in power should always be pointed out.

[Stinky The Clown]

51. Why does this have to do with the actuality of Baton Rouge?

Joe

[Joe the Revelator]

52. I don't think I understand your question?

It was a leader of a movement commenting on the incident in question. What didn't it have to do with Baton Rouge?

[Stinky The Clown]

53. But you've been posting in a number threads on DU (which is spam, BTW)

Joe

Since you saw the need to post it in more than one location it must be pretty important (to you). Why? They guy in your video clip may be the leader on BLM but his opinion is worth . . . what?

What does that spammed video have to do with today's shootings apart from being an irrelevant opinion posted to a public website?

I'm not seeing the connection.

[Joe the Revelator]

54. LMFAO...use the search function. Show me where I 'spammed' anything.

Sorry if facts are an inconvenient truth.

[Joe the Revelator]

55. Also, do you even have a clue what you're talking about?

What video? You're in a thread concerning twitter comments from Tariq Nasheed. I have another thread posting videos from the shooter. They are two different people. You understand that, right?

[kwassa]

57. What exactly is wrong with this tweet?

All you suspected racists who are blaming Obama & #BLM for the #BatonRouge police deaths, instead of white supremacy, YOU are the problem

Do you blame Obama or BLM for the Baton Rouge police deaths? If not, are you being addressed in this tweet?

Do you think that white supremacy had nothing to do with the police deaths?

[Joe the Revelator]

58. Because the cops were still lying in the streets when he decided to post this.

[kwassa]

59. So? Why does it make the tweet wrong? And how is Tariq a BLM leader?

I've been searching for awhile on Google, and find no evidence so far, though he does call BLM white-controlled, in one tweet.

[LanternWaste]

64. The baiting itself is well done, however I would suggest a more graceful cast of the pole

The baiting itself is well done, however I would suggest a more graceful cast of the pole; the usual technique is a subtle and quick flick of the wrist towards the water rather than simply emptying a bucket of chum.

Fishermen-- showing what a reasonable group they are as well.


(insert below any feigned offense taken to better validate alleged sincerity)

[zappaman]

66. Lol!

Perfect.

[pnwmom]

65. Isn't it racist to blame Obama and the BLM for what happened in Baton Rouge?

Why are they being blamed for the actions of a demented shooter who shared nothing with them except for skin color?