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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave the Republicans crossed the line with their charges that Hillary "should be in jail" ??
Is it common in political discourse to accuse your opponent of being a criminal, when there are no outstanding criminal charges? Is this a recent phenomenon?
Is this dangerous for a society? Is it slanderous? Is it criminal, in itself, to make such accusations without proof?
Of course, politics "ain't beanbag", but it's really not that simple, is it?
Doodley
(9,088 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)sure.
But it has definitely crossed a line.
But then the line was probably crossed awhile ago, around the time Trump started with his Obama birther crap. I keep thinking, "ok, this time they've gone too far"...only to have them surprise me again.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)This is "REAL GOOD" for children! Please think "happy thoughts," as the final movie solution demands. Have you ever seen a "gopher with three heads?"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3180201/Trump-defends-big-game-hunting-sons-shamed-Twitter-posing-trophy-kills-including-leopard-elephant-death-Cecil-lion.html
Donald Trump defending sons' sport killing of exotic African animals may finally doom billionaire blowhard's campaign
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/stasi-hed-article-1.2311902
"HUNTER KILLS LARGEST AFRICAN ELEPHANT AND POISONS DOZENS MORE"
IT'S A GOOD LIFE "You be dead!" this kid said.
sarae
(3,284 posts)Too bad those animals didn't get a hold of him when he was unarmed. What a rotten family.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)There was a time when Hillary Clinton was in the superleague of popularity for politicians. Their constant attacks on her have worked.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The cons are doing what they have ALWAYS done when it concerns the Clinton's - overreach. For 30 years, they've been doing this - LYING about the Clinton's. And that's why they always lose to Bill and Hillary. Bill is the most popular politician in the country (although Pres Obama is giving him a run for his money these days - the cons would KILL for those approval ratings) and Hillary is going to be the Democratic nominee. Screaming about jail just makes them look like the whiny little turds they are.
LeftRant
(524 posts)Normal Americans aren't quite going to understand the vitriol though. The GOP will come off as scary extreme to many.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I am sure he knew what he was doing.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)That was completely unprofessional and ridiculous. He proved himself to be a blowhard.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Blaming Hillary for boco haram kidnapping those girls? Blaming her for every bad thing that has happened internationally in the last 8 years? It was over the top bullshit.
Rhiannon12866
(205,237 posts)Today I was in the checkout line at the supermarket and the "scandal sheets" were saying much the same thing!
840high
(17,196 posts)are selling like hoot cakes.
Rhiannon12866
(205,237 posts)Whatever happened to aliens and Batboy??
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)are idiots as well.
unblock
(52,205 posts)sorefeet
(1,241 posts)they will spend what ever it takes to put Hillary in jail and who ever else they can railroad. With taxpayer money.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Just stop with the nonsense already.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)Never seen anything like it!
Johonny
(20,837 posts)throwing poo to a canned audience. That doesn't hold up in court I'm afraid RNC crowd. When you find a crime, come tell me...until then they can just shut up.
I think most DUers think Bush and Cheney are war criminals so I don't think it isn't fair game. It's hardly been effective though. Bill rode this type of talk to higher and higher poll numbers. The more they called him a criminal the more people liked him.
But so did everyone else who lit whole banks of votive candles to the Indictment Fairy.
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)farther and farther into crazy territory. Can't even imagine what it will be like in four years.
onecaliberal
(32,831 posts)Unhinged and pathetic they look to thinking people in this country capable of critical thought.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)But they crossed the line a long, long, long time ago.
glennward
(989 posts)these fanatics ever get to run a country.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)kentuck
(111,082 posts)Not America. It is a shame that they have sunk to this level. It is a dangerous direction.
spanone
(135,828 posts)their hatred is disgusting
kairos12
(12,857 posts)trackfan
(3,650 posts)that brought Caesar to power. Other parallels to the end of the Roman Republic are the supremacy of graft as a motivating force, and the imperial outreach of the military.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)But they've been crossing it for 8 years now.
This ain't politics, it's derangement.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Same old crap from the 90s
And once she is in office, their whole focus will be 'Impeach!'. It's what they do. It's all they know.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)It has been going on a long time. I say that politics has led its course since Reagan, and even before. Rush used to be considered entertainment. He is the Republican Party now..and beyond.
Trump is beyond anything the Republican Party could have imagined. Good for them.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Have another bridge he needs to be shutting down somewhere, or 4 bags of Oreo's to be scarfing down one after another?
He's made a complete fool of himself--running after tRump like his little Nurse Maid fetching hamburgers, fries etc. for him only to have tRump completely humiliate him then kick him in his extra-wide fanny (tRump almost getting his foot stuck in there I bet), and his "career" is over. Even if tRump had chosen Bully Boy as his VP, he couldn't have delivered New Jersey--that's how horrible, petty, ineffective and corrupt of a Governor he's been, and most folks in New Jersey just want him to go away forever.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)they NEVER let up
John Poet
(2,510 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts).. should be in jail... welll..
Enrique
(27,461 posts)It's not common for official representatives to say them, for example a speaker at the nominating convention.
bulloney
(4,113 posts)What about all of the cherry-picking of unvetted intelligence that he orchestrated just to make the case to invade Iraq so that he and his buddies at Haliburton can make tons of money? And it was all lies! And the world is still paying for it in terms of lost and messed up lives, the creation of ISIS and other terrorist groups, and trillions of dollars in taxpayer money.
But you never hear a peep from these same RW zombies about that, do you?
Like zombies, they just repeat the line that Hillary should be in jail because it's all they hear in their bubbles where all they listen to is I-Heart Radio hate mongering talk shows and Faux Snooze.
Ms. Yertle
(466 posts)A lesson from LBJ in how to smash an opponent.
Legend has it that LBJ, in one of his early congressional campaigns, told one of his aides to spread the story that Johnson's opponent fucked pigs. The aide responded "Christ, Lyndon, we can't call the guy a pigfucker. It isn't true." To which LBJ supposedly replied "Of course it ain't true, but I want to make the son-of-a-bitch deny it."
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It's very very common to invoke chauvinistic language in political discourse on-line, in bars, and playing drinking games watching opponents' televised performances. Within professional politics this sort of thing is left to the rallying speeches of surrogates, and candidates and their campaign staff never get dirty.
In a year when there is very little concern for guiding principles, or even arguing the value of tacking to approximate compass headings, there is way too much attention on defaming personalities, This shouldn't come as much of a surprise. Consider for a moment that Trump, as we know him is a traitorous friend of Putin, much worse than Hitler, and a business partner of Beelzebub.
Remember when you couldn't follow campaign news without being smacked in the ears with "gravitas" as the buzzword? Well, the name-calling ad hominen slingers have pretty much given up on gravitas in preference of gravity.
And, currently, gravity is best measured by the weight of mud and the 'strength' of a campaign is judged on it's 'throw-weight' capacity.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)ESPECIALLY considering the fact that their party is FULL of criminals who should be indicted for war CRIMES and crimes against humanity.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I keep wondering how low it is possible for them to go and they keep surprising me.
The tweet with the picture of Hillary in front of the huge sign that said "c##t" had to be the worst thing I have ever seen. I wonder what they are going to do to beat that one.