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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe're still attacking Drumpf the same way, and I'm scared we'll get the same result.
The attacks are legitimate: he'll unleash more destruction than Hitler and more lynch mobs than the worst KKK grand wizard.
But we've predicted that these truths would keep him from, first, getting past being considered a joke candidate then, second, rising above a predicted "ceiling" of support and getting the Repug nomination.
I'm all-in on the logic that there's NO WAY Drumpf will succeed in the general election, but I was all-in on the logic that he was a joke candidate and wouldn't get even close to being nominated.
Obviously, logic isn't at work this cycle so obviously we need to completely change the attack. I'm just at a loss as to what you throw at him, if the Hitler and KKK references (which he deserves), did not yield the predicted results. I'm truly frightened.
kacekwl
(6,993 posts)have heard of and who brings some excitement to the Democratic party.
DanM
(341 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,891 posts)That's where he totally discombobulates...
like yesterday with the NATO fiasco.
Trump doesn't know jackshit about
governing or world affairs or finance
for that matter. Make him explain
something anything and the world
sees what a phony jackass he is.
maryellen99
(3,781 posts)I can't stand the man but when I heard what he said about NATO yesterday it legitimately scared me.
C_U_L8R
(44,891 posts)...queued up to condemn Trumps stupidity
from now until Election Day on that issue alone.
The thing about Trump is he's only good on the
attack. When he's knocked back on his heels,
he makes mistakes. If we relentlessly keep
'Il Douche' on the defense, he'll crumble.
On edit: the post below is absolutely right,
Senator Warren is showing us how it's done.
With ferocious wit...and the truth.
No prisoners.
maryellen99
(3,781 posts)doc03
(35,148 posts)to the fire. He has made an entire career of using the MSM for self promotion. Look at the Ted Cruz thing
he was able to use the Ted Cruz non-endorsement to his advantage. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he
added those lines to his wife's speech either. All that did was put the convention in the headlines and
more people watched.
kairos12
(12,817 posts)Welcome to DU.
DanM
(341 posts)At least it's a different avenue of attack, and there have been signs he has most trouble handling it.
yellerpup
(12,249 posts)to include everyone. Stop reacting so much to him and talk about Democratic policies that can actually help people.
Mika
(17,751 posts)For most megalomaniacal pols, winning is lifeblood's oxygen.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)show Hillary's true back ground.
Post it everywhere
Post Comey's comments
She did not lie to the FBI post it everywhere
Don't think it doesnt work
Thats how the GOP got all the bullshit about her spread all over.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Those that are voting for him are voting for him because he hates the right people and has agreed to act on that hate when President. Everything else is completely irrelevant.
We've got to do more than just "The other guy sucks and is scary!" That is essentially what they are doing for their voters, about Hillary.
We need to get people off the fence and give them a reason TO vote for Hillary rather than a reason to NOT vote for Trump. That part has already been done to death and has run it's course.
piechartking
(617 posts)He's terribly insecure, and there's no provocation that he won't answer. So provoke, provoke, provoke and get him off his game plan. Tear down all his accomplishments and you'll drive him to distraction. Question if he's really a billionaire, stuff like that. Dig up stuff on Melania or his kids.
stopbush
(24,376 posts)They are the ones who elected Trump as their candidate. They embraced the hatred and voted for the hater.
There will be no similar embrace from Ds in the land, nor from the majority of Indies who vote D. Trump is making no inroads in voting constituencies outside of the most-basic R voter. Hell, there are plenty of Rs forming their own "I'm with Hillary" movements.
Your fright is unwarranted.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)kacekwl
(6,993 posts)they would have supported Bernie but because they are racists and homophobes they are knocking on Trumps door.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)What we said in the primary was said from afar. Nothing we said or wrote or thought mattered to the people who vote in Republican primaries. They weren't listening to the other side. They were barely listening to the saner (or is that less crazy) parts of their own party.
We had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the republican race to the nomination.
So, we can't say that just because we thought he wouldn't win the nomination, and now say he can't win the GE that those are the same thing.
He is actually running against someone other than the other members of the same choir.
DanM
(341 posts). . . but my fear is perfectly reasonable logic before, even in our circles, said Drumpf was a joke and he would flame out early, at best, or flame out later before being nominated, at worst.
So, now the perfectly reasonable logic is that he flames out in the GE. Dear lord, let us be right this time . . .
Wounded Bear
(58,437 posts)Things will begin to change this weekend. At the convention, I expect some appropriate attacks against Trump, but they won't be the focus. Issues will dominate the Dem convention, as it should. Bernie will be a rabble rouser that will get the crowd up in ways far better than the hate and divisiveness that the Repubs showed. I hope Liz speaks, too, though I guess her name dropped off the list last week. She would also be an effective speaker.
Dems will lay out a vision for America going forward.
1. It's wa-a-a-ay-y-y-y less dark than Trump laid out.
2. We've made great progress in the last 8 years on many issues across the board.
3. We have a plan to build on what we've done and here it is.
Like I said, I'm not worried. Take a chillpill and relax. Enjoy the ride.
Mc Mike
(9,106 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)One major facet of this approach is to simply go through the MYRIAD footage of him over the years, including a wealth of written material from SPY magazine, and put the best snippets up there, without comment.
I keep posting this, and I think the dems should put stuff like it up EVERY DAY:
clip off the Hillary reference; that doesn't help
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)somebody needs to be hired to edit these into 20-30 second clips, or longer, depending on the context, just to show how INSANE he is
the Indiana and Cincinnati speeches of a few weeks ago are virtual treasure troves for a case one could make, and they SHOULD, of either his bipolar nature, or incipient presenile dementia.
I don't see why a full frontal attack isn't being made on the issue of his competency. there are states where it only takes the testimony of two people to have somebody committed for psychiatric observation. that would make a fun ad.
one example>>>>stay out of Colorado, Donald:
http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/legal-resources/state-standards/emergency-hospitalization-for-evaluation
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The old one where he made fun of the handicapped reporter, and s new one in which he claims to have learned foreign policy from "watching the shows." That one is particularly strong, because then there's a bit extolling Clinton's actual foreign policy experience and successes.
Matrosov
(1,098 posts)People like Cruz have pointed out that Trump has previously in favor of things like universal healthcare and another assault weapons ban.
Attacking Trump on his own terms isn't going to work. He'll win a petty name calling fight every time. On the other hand, if we can keep bringing up his inconsistent conservative record and point out to his most loyal supporters that he used to support positions to which they are 100% opposed, perhaps there is at least a chance of hurting his turnout.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)DanM
(341 posts). . . give simple thank-you's to simple statements of agreement like yours. So the other reason I had to respond is to say your "Trump/Pence" logo is freaking hilarious!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)and then there is a distinct possibility of computers, which accumulate information from voting machines being hacked by a variety of threatening forces.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)He has pissed off the Spanish voters
He has pissed off the Muslim voters
He has pissed off the Asian voters
He has pissed off women voters
The only ones he has still backing him are the racists, KKK, nazi morons, and the tea baggers. I really don't think he can win with that group, do you?