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malaise

(268,695 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:08 AM Jul 2016

Confessions Of A Former Obama Skeptic: Obama will emerge as one of the half-dozen greatest

presidents of all time

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/confessions-of-a-former-obama-skeptic_us_578f74e7e4b0f529aa076e88
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Obama’s steady competence brings to mind the long-term successes of great sports teams such as the San Antonio Spurs over the past twenty years, or the Dallas Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson. These teams succeeded because they adapted to change without overreacting to short-term trends. In the corporate world, this kind of leadership is called vision. In earlier eras, America would have called it integrity.

Integrity seems to be a particularly important label in the context of the fights that Obama has picked in the twilight of his Presidency. As we noted in the Progressive Policy Institute blog, Obama in 2015 repeatedly stood up to powerful interest groups of the left, right, and center to do what was best for America. Those include:

Standing up to left-wing college students who were trying to impose campus speech codes;

Standing up to the fossil fuel industry by forging a climate deal among 196 nations;

Standing up to education bureaucrats by appointing long-time reformer and educator John King as Secretary of Education;

Standing up to xenophobes and nativists by welcoming Syrian refugees;

Standing up to warmongers including powerful interest groups in Washington DC by negotiating a diplomatic settlement regarding Iran’s nuclear ambitions; and

Standing up to big labor by ignoring their protectionist and backwards-looking attacks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Furthermore, in assessing Obama, we need to be blunt: Obama faced a racist backlash and related domestic political challenges unlike those faced by any of his forebears.

In an odd sense, the mobilization of latent racism may have been inadvertent. Most of the funding for the Tea Party came from the Koch brothers, who wanted a libertarian counterweight to the Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress. Unfortunately, the Tea Party soon shed its libertarians and coalesced around angry, disaffected, and older white males. Establishment Republican figures frankly encouraged these voters’ fear and hatred, seeing it it as electorally useful. Long before he formally announced his presidential campaign, Donald Trump took advantage of the Koch-backed movement to promote the “birther” conspiracy that Obama was a foreigner and (gasp) a Muslim from Africa rather than an American-born citizen. These actions by Republican leaders consolidated and fanned a growing racial hostility among anti-Obama white Americans. As documented by American Enterprise Institute scholar Norm Ornstein:

One year into his presidency, ABC News catalogued an array of racially tinged and overtly racist statements or actions taken against Obama. They came from election and party officials and media figures, including Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. In the years since, the number of prominent figures using race as a wedge only grew. They include a New Hampshire police commissioner using the “N” word to refer to the president, a Montana federal district judge sending racist emails, and many others.

This level of race-based hostility complicated Obama’s already-difficult job. Scholarly research has confirmed that anti-black racism influenced Obama’s approval ratings. The organized core of anti-black racism made it difficult for Obama to work with Republican members of Congress even in areas of mutual interest.

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Confessions Of A Former Obama Skeptic: Obama will emerge as one of the half-dozen greatest (Original Post) malaise Jul 2016 OP
K&R HipChick Jul 2016 #1
I concur. This is how he will be eventually seen. One of the Titans of Democratic Presidents. GOLGO 13 Jul 2016 #2
While I might quibble on a point or two, I agree. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #3
the pressure on him had to be enormous... Javaman Jul 2016 #6
He WILL BE regarded as one of the greatest presidents EVER! And deservedly so despite the racism. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #4
And all that in spite of the Republican Obstruction liberal N proud Jul 2016 #5
He's still fairly young. He's not done yet by no means. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #7
Obama's in my top five. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #8
K & R! HuckleB Jul 2016 #9
And also one of the classiest First Families ever. jalan48 Jul 2016 #10
Really hard to say zipplewrath Jul 2016 #11
And Jimmy Carter's reputation continues to improve Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #16
He's among the greatest post-term presidents, absolutely Orrex Jul 2016 #17
That's a good point zipplewrath Jul 2016 #18
Enough good lillypaddle Jul 2016 #12
"Standing up to big labor by ignoring their protectionist and backwards-looking attacks on the Gene Debs Jul 2016 #13
"Standing up to left-wing college students who were trying to impose campus speech codes" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #14
Congrats on posting a right-winger's celebration of Obama's most RW moments brentspeak Jul 2016 #15

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. While I might quibble on a point or two, I agree.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jul 2016

We have been fortunate to have him in the White House. Name one scandal that his administration caused or created. I cannot think of any.

The Ben Ghazi dude and the email server are not on him, but are tied (rightly or wrongly) to our presumptive nominee.

To some degree, the whole Tea Bagger movement was an artificial creation, funded by Kochs and others, which unfortunately gained power over time. Now, the rotting remnants that are left are quite easily described, compared to the initial outpouring of anger, fear, mistrust and frustration that crossed many lines. Today's Tea Baggers are racists, sexists, Fox News Devotees who are in their 60s or older, white, not well educated, and fearful of anything called change.

Given how they have put up so many roadblocks during Obama's presidency, I am still amazed how much he managed to accomplish. I agree. His terms in office will go down as one of the top 5 or 6 presidencies ever.

Javaman

(62,503 posts)
6. the pressure on him had to be enormous...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jul 2016

I'm with you, there are things I didn't really care for regarding his Presidency, but given all things, I think he did a fine job given the halfwit congress he was dealt.

I'm truly glad he was my President.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
7. He's still fairly young. He's not done yet by no means.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jul 2016



He may have only started to make his mark on the the world. And don't
forget, he has two young gifted daughters for whom the sky is the limit.


Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. Obama's in my top five.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jul 2016

He's actually been there since his first term.

I will admit that there are a couple things he can do to put himself within reaching distance of the top spot. I really want to put him there.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. Really hard to say
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jul 2016

These things tend to rise and fall with history.

Jackson was popular for a long time, even put on the money. But now they don't even want his name on the annual fund raising parties.

Grant was beloved when he left office, and when he died. But now he's considered one of the worst.

Jefferson was adored for years, but lately has taken a beating over his slave ownership.

Wilson was admired for decades as well, but has lately taken some hits because of the failure of the League of Nations and his racist actions.

Even Kennedy has seen a decline in his reputation, mostly from his personal behavior and because of the uncertainty about is connection to the Vietnam war. Bit unfair too because he died before much of his work could come to fruition.

Obama will always "rank" as one of the more significant presidents merely because of his race. If the ACA survives after his administration to any significant extent, that too may carry him for a while. It will take decades to sort out his accomplishments, or lack thereof, with foreign policy.

But the tell all books haven't started to really come out yet, and there is back room talk about arrogance and mistakes that we'll only find out about in another decade or so. As someone else suggested too, his work AFTER his presidency may have as much influence on his reputation as anything he did while IN office.

And in the end it doesn't matter because either WE move forward or we don't. All of this is just about whether we'll assign blame, credit or just forget all about him.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
16. And Jimmy Carter's reputation continues to improve
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jul 2016

I think history will treat him more kindly than his contemporaries did.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
17. He's among the greatest post-term presidents, absolutely
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jul 2016

But I don't know that his too-brief time in office will be any better regarded in the future.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
18. That's a good point
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jul 2016

There are the popular ones that have fallen, and the unpopular ones that have improved with age.

Eisenhower is probably respected better in both parties than at his departure.

Carter has been shown to be rather prescient.

Truman may be improving with time as well.

I'm curious how Reagan will be seen in another 20 years or so. It's getting harder to align what he did, with the legend.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
12. Enough good
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jul 2016

cannot be said about our President. In the face of overwhelming obstruction, he has maintained his integrity and forged ahead whenever and wherever possible.

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
13. "Standing up to big labor by ignoring their protectionist and backwards-looking attacks on the
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jul 2016

Trans-Pacific Partnership."

I literally cannot believe I read that.

Standing up to 'big labor'."

Wow. Just...wow.

When did "big labor" become the monster and the TPP suddenly become a good thing? I would have expected to hear that from the stage in Cleveland, maybe.

If you want to look at it that way, it's like the way he stood up to big homosexual by hemming and hawing on marriage equality before Joe Biden forced his hand.

"Big labor."

Wow.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
14. "Standing up to left-wing college students who were trying to impose campus speech codes"
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jul 2016

So left-wing college students are one of the most "powerful interest groups of the left"? I'm unfamiliar with this. Is this from a specific incident?

So this was one of his greatest accomplishments? Standing up against some kind of "speech codes" that a group of left leaning students were trying to impose.

Bravo

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
15. Congrats on posting a right-winger's celebration of Obama's most RW moments
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jul 2016

You didn't notice the irony of Melhorn praising Obama's selection of charter school advocate John King? You didn't notice that Melhorn praised Obama "standing up to big labor by ignoring their protectionist and backwards-looking attacks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership."

Do you know who Dmitri Melhorn is?

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