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Oh I so can't wait for the VP debate! (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2016 OP
Kaine is going to destroy him... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #1
I know... Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2016 #2
Mike Pence .... LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #3
Kaine is also Jesuit schooled, so will have been Hortensis Jul 2016 #9
It appears that Kaine doesn't let his religious beliefs... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #4
I love debates. lovemydog Jul 2016 #5
Will Trump really debate? tikka Jul 2016 #7
good questions lovemydog Jul 2016 #8
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2016 #6

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
1. Kaine is going to destroy him...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jul 2016

especially when he tried to do that fake evangelical crap with respect to women's rights. Kaine was endorsed by Cecile tonight...a thing of beauty.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
3. Mike Pence ....
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jul 2016

IS in the mold of Dan Quayle. ALSO from Indiana.

Tim should make quick work of him. I've heard Tim speak (And most recently during the gun filibusterer in order to change gun laws) and he's very intelligent. Pence is not a dummy exactly like Quayle was, but he's not anywhere near as intelligent as Time is either.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Kaine is also Jesuit schooled, so will have been
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

intensively trained in critical thinking and moral and ethical issues, as well as receiving a very broadly rounded education on many subjects. He also majored in economics in college and is currently on the Senate's armed services, budget, and foreign relations committees.

Pence attended law school, was a congressman and is Gov of IN. Interestingly, most lawyers score surprisingly low on tests of understanding of moral issues because of the intensively amoral training that is part of both law school and practice. Pence was part of an intensely devout Catholic family until college, when he became born again and joined a church that didn't require any formal divinity training of its spiritual leaders, a lack of knowledge typically reflected big time in evangelical congregants.

And of course Pence revealed his exceptional...something by joining the so-called Tea Party that was actually an astroturf movement formed by agents operating secretly for the Kochs to serve their interests. Fooled like all the rest or a Koch infiltrator? Or, perhaps likely, something of both?

Pence's lack of intellect has been remarked on publicly a few times. Plus, people with his religious and political views seem to require intensive and constant restructuring of reality to justify themselves. Simply saying "this is what I believe" isn't enough for by far most, who lie constantly about conflicting information and do believe their lies. An entire adulthood of this is not exactly good training for going up against a Jesuit education and an adulthood spent advancing knowledge and understanding.

I think it'll be very surprising if Kaine doesn't come off very well.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
4. It appears that Kaine doesn't let his religious beliefs...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jul 2016

paint him into corners that make him act like an idiot and bigot. He epitomizes what separation of church and state is all about.

I heard that PP gave him a 100% rating, which is kind of cool to hear.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
5. I love debates.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jul 2016

I think Kaine will crush Pence in the debates.

I know Hillary will crush Trump in the debates.

I'd love to see real genuine debates approved by the League of Women Voters.

I'd love to see the democratic party insist on debates approved by them.

tikka

(757 posts)
7. Will Trump really debate?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:20 AM
Jul 2016

He will turn a debate into a circus sideshow. He won't follow any rules and the media lapdogs won't be able to stop him. What are they going to do? Send him to his room without supper? Stand him in a corner?

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